I wish people would stop blaming Courtney for Kurt's death

mawfordinks

Ok, Courtney Love may not be the most likeable person on Earth. But everytime I look for Nirvana on the internet, all I see is Courtney killed Kurt.
There are even dedicated websites- but there is NO EVIDENCE.
Kurt killed himself. Tragic I know but that is what happened. It must hurt not only Courtney but her daughter too. This bullshit has to stop.

left the porch

Ever seen Kurt and Courtney the documentary? Pretty convincing to me. I totally believe she was involved in his death. There is lot's of evidence in the movie, and some of it is just common sense. The dust hadn't even settled in Kurt's urn and Courtney was at the Oscars, getting boob jobs, and all of a sudden she wasn't punk rock anymore. Courtney Love is a douchebag, she is the epitome of an attention junkie, and if Kurt could see what has happened to his legacy since he was murdered by that bitch, (i.e. his avatar singing Bon Jovi songs on Guitar Hero, the publication of his private diaries, etc.) I'm sure he would be disgusted. Her own parents think she's capable of anything to get what she wants. The murder of a suicidal depressed and fucked up on junk, was not such a stretch.

And if anyone needs further confirmation on what kind of person Courtney is just ask Frances, Kurt's daughter, who has gone to live with his family instead of psycho slut Courtney. I bet Frances believe's she was a part of his death too. Maybe one day the truth will come out. Here's hoping.

CantKeepMeHere

left the porch wrote:

Ever seen Kurt and Courtney the documentary? Pretty convincing to me. I totally believe she was involved in his death. There is lot's of evidence in the movie, and some of it is just common sense. The dust hadn't even settled in Kurt's urn and Courtney was at the Oscars, getting boob jobs, and all of a sudden she wasn't punk rock anymore. Courtney Love is a douchebag, she is the epitome of an attention junkie, and if Kurt could see what has happened to his legacy since he was murdered by that bitch, (i.e. his avatar singing Bon Jovi songs on Guitar Hero, the publication of his private diaries, etc.) I'm sure he would be disgusted. Her own parents think she's capable of anything to get what she wants. The murder of a suicidal depressed and fucked up on junk, was not such a stretch.

And if anyone needs further confirmation on what kind of person Courtney is just ask Frances, Kurt's daughter, who has gone to live with his family instead of psycho slut Courtney. I bet Frances believe's she was a part of his death too. Maybe one day the truth will come out. Here's hoping.

+1,000,000

nuffingman

left the porch wrote:

Ever seen Kurt and Courtney the documentary? Pretty convincing to me. I totally believe she was involved in his death. There is lot's of evidence in the movie, and some of it is just common sense. The dust hadn't even settled in Kurt's urn and Courtney was at the Oscars, getting boob jobs, and all of a sudden she wasn't punk rock anymore. Courtney Love is a douchebag, she is the epitome of an attention junkie, and if Kurt could see what has happened to his legacy since he was murdered by that bitch, (i.e. his avatar singing Bon Jovi songs on Guitar Hero, the publication of his private diaries, etc.) I'm sure he would be disgusted. Her own parents think she's capable of anything to get what she wants. The murder of a suicidal depressed and fucked up on junk, was not such a stretch.

And if anyone needs further confirmation on what kind of person Courtney is just ask Frances, Kurt's daughter, who has gone to live with his family instead of psycho slut Courtney. I bet Frances believe's she was a part of his death too. Maybe one day the truth will come out. Here's hoping.

We haven't moved on have we? Trial by documentary. It's thoughts like this that had people burned for withcraft because they had a crooked nose or a black cat.

I read Heavier Than Heaven his biography. He was an unhappy guy before anyone even heard of him. He didn't have a very happy childhood, add to that he was a mega drug fiend and you have a clue to what happened.

left the porch

Just my opinion, and I guess I should've made sure to put that in there. And no, I'm not alone in this thinking. What does moving on have to do with anything? The OJ murders happened before Kurt's death, does that mean he's any less guilty even though years have gone by? Just because it happened years ago, dosen't mean people can't have their theories. And that's all I was trying to say. In my opinion, she was behind his death, she may not have pulled the trigger, but she paid someone to do it. I think that it was Kurt's friend, the one 'who likes all our pretty songs,' and 'likes to shoot his guns.' His name is Dylan I think and he lived in Kurt's shadow. I think he was always jealous of Kurt and it became much worse once he was a star. Courtney was on the way out and so was he. Who did Courtney ask to take the private investigator for a search of the house? Dylan. And what room was the only one they didn't search? The room above the garage where he was found dead of an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound. The case was handled like a suicide from the start, and therefore was open and shut. The possibility of homicide was never investigated. Then there's the note, the divorce paper's, the Lexus, and a whole bunch of other question marks surrounding the whole thing.
I have also read Heavier than Heaven, and I do think he was depressed as shit, but enough to blow his own head off? Maybe though, if I was married to Courtney, I'd want to kill myself too.
Remember there is always two sides to every story, and I was just airing mine. Opinions are like onions, some people think they are delicious, and some people think they taste like shit.

DeLukin

Scumball? Yes. Murderer? I doubt it. Kurt had enough serious problems that he didn't need Courtney to do 'it' for him. I think his untimely demise was inevitable...

peacegirl

I have seen the Kurt & Courtney documentary and read many biographies on Kurt yet I'm not convinced she is to blame but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't think this question will ever stop being asked.

dcfaithful

All we can hope for is that sooner or later people will stop giving Courtney love the time of day and she'll eventually fade away into everyday life leaving it ups to us to forget about her...which I imagine wouldn't be too hard anyways.

left the porch

dcfaithful wrote:

All we can hope for is that sooner or later people will stop giving Courtney love the time of day and she'll eventually fade away into everyday life leaving it ups to us to forget about her...which I imagine wouldn't be too hard anyways.

Amen to that.

youngster

left the porch wrote:

I think that it was Kurt's friend, the one 'who likes all our pretty songs,' and 'likes to shoot his guns.' His name is Dylan I think and he lived in Kurt's shadow. I think he was always jealous of Kurt and it became much worse once he was a star.

Was that the dude dancing onstage at the Live At Reading DVD?

left the porch

cropduster82 wrote:

left the porch wrote:

I think that it was Kurt's friend, the one 'who likes all our pretty songs,' and 'likes to shoot his guns.' His name is Dylan I think and he lived in Kurt's shadow. I think he was always jealous of Kurt and it became much worse once he was a star.

Was that the dude dancing onstage at the Live At Reading DVD?

I don't know, I haven't seen it yet.

He looks like Charlie Manson.

blended1

Does it really matter Kurt is dead ! and nthing can bring him back

facepollution

How do you plot to murder someone when they go awol?! People need to get a life, and seperate their feelings about someone they don't like, from a completely baseless claim by some guy who may also just be in it for the money.

musicismylife78

i know that kurt most likely killed himself, but the documentary has some facinating and disturbing evidence. I think another part of the puzzle is, that Kurt was the most important musician of his generation. His impact in music is hard to overstate. There were millions of teens who felt this guy was tapping to their deepest thoughts and fears, and his death in many ways almost seemed to reinforce everything we all believed, ie that things are really that bad, and that heroes let you down or die or whatever. Its hard to really describe or put into words. Especially on this forum, which has often be virulently anti Nirvana and anti kurt. But his death sort of permeated that whole era. Even someone like me, who was pretty young when it all happened, 10 when he died, but I could feel the importance of his death. It permeated the air, like some sickness and somehow a kid like me picked up on it.

Its not just spread by the documentary. Sane people like Lanegan or kim gordon have both suggested they dont believe the suicide theory. Its one thing for loons to claim it, its another for legendary musicians to support the conspiracy theory.

left the porch

facepollution wrote:

How do you plot to murder someone when they go awol?! People need to get a life, and seperate their feelings about someone they don't like, from a completely baseless claim by some guy who may also just be in it for the money.

How is it a baseless claim? And no one who made that film was in it for the money, in fact the PI investigating the case went broke trying to get the case re-opened. The guy who made the film didn't make much from the movie, maybe enough to break even. Like I said earlier, this is just what I think, and I'm far from alone. Since when did having an opinion mean I need to "get a life." And the fact I don't like Courtney has a lot to do with the fact I think she was behind Kurt's death, so this has nothing to do with just having a hate on for her.

Something that always made me question suicide was how he did it? Wouldn't a junkie just shoot himself up with enough heroin and go out peacefully? And if you wanted to use a gun why use a shotgun? He had the money and the means to get whatever he wanted, and he chose a gun that would be hard to operate with the barrel in his mouth, and being as high as he was. Just dosen't make any sense.

facepollution

left the porch wrote:

How is it a baseless claim? And no one who made that film was in it for the money, in fact the PI investigating the case went broke trying to get the case re-opened. The guy who made the film didn't make much from the movie, maybe enough to break even. Like I said earlier, this is just what I think, and I'm far from alone. Since when did having an opinion mean I need to "get a life." And the fact I don't like Courtney has a lot to do with the fact I think she was behind Kurt's death, so this has nothing to do with just having a hate on for her.

It's baseless because it's all circumstantial. I have no reason to trust the PI investigating or Nick Broomfield. I've lived long enough to know that it's easy to give two completely different, yet equally convincing sides to any story.

left the porch wrote:

Wouldn't a junkie just shoot himself up with enough heroin and go out peacefully?

Well that's just you supposing. Statistically speaking, men typically use far more final and effective methods of killing themselves, a drug overdose isn't guaranteed to work.

left the porch wrote:

And if you wanted to use a gun why use a shotgun? He had the money and the means to get whatever he wanted, and he chose a gun that would be hard to operate with the barrel in his mouth, and being as high as he was. Just dosen't make any sense.

Um yeah it does make perfect sense. Kurt went awol, he didn't want people to find him, so he probably used whatever he happened to have at home - a shot gun.

I've said this a million times before, but why do people find it so hard to believe that a manic depressive drug addict who couldn't handle fame, just wanted out?

Why would anyone take Tom Grant's word as gospel? He openly admitted that he took a disliking to Courtney, what's to say he hasn't made anything up?

There's also the fact that Courtney saved Kurt's life on a number of occassions, including administering an adrenaline shot to the heart Pulp Fiction style. Why not just let him die on any one of those occassions?

You also have to question, if she really had anything to do with it, why would she force him into rehab in LA, and how would she or anyone working for her, have known where he would have been after he went awol?

left the porch

facepollution wrote:

left the porch wrote:

How is it a baseless claim? And no one who made that film was in it for the money, in fact the PI investigating the case went broke trying to get the case re-opened. The guy who made the film didn't make much from the movie, maybe enough to break even. Like I said earlier, this is just what I think, and I'm far from alone. Since when did having an opinion mean I need to "get a life." And the fact I don't like Courtney has a lot to do with the fact I think she was behind Kurt's death, so this has nothing to do with just having a hate on for her.

It's baseless because it's all circumstantial. I have no reason to trust the PI investigating or Nick Broomfield. I've lived long enough to know that it's easy to give two completely different, yet equally convincing sides to any story.

left the porch wrote:

Wouldn't a junkie just shoot himself up with enough heroin and go out peacefully?

Well that's just you supposing. Statistically speaking, men typically use far more final and effective methods of killing themselves, a drug overdose isn't guaranteed to work.

left the porch wrote:

And if you wanted to use a gun why use a shotgun? He had the money and the means to get whatever he wanted, and he chose a gun that would be hard to operate with the barrel in his mouth, and being as high as he was. Just dosen't make any sense.

Um yeah it does make perfect sense. Kurt went awol, he didn't want people to find him, so he probably used whatever he happened to have at home - a shot gun.

I've said this a million times before, but why do people find it so hard to believe that a manic depressive drug addict who couldn't handle fame, just wanted out?

Why would anyone take Tom Grant's word as gospel? He openly admitted that he took a disliking to Courtney, what's to say he hasn't made anything up?

There's also the fact that Courtney saved Kurt's life on a number of occassions, including administering an adrenaline shot to the heart Pulp Fiction style. Why not just let him die on any one of those occassions?

You also have to question, if she really had anything to do with it, why would she force him into rehab in LA, and how would she or anyone working for her, have known where he would have been after he went awol?

Is that you Courtney?

left the porch

Its not just spread by the documentary. Sane people like Lanegan or kim gordon have both suggested they dont believe the suicide theory. Its one thing for loons to claim it, its another for legendary musicians to support the conspiracy theory.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it mister.

keeponrockin

musicismylife78 wrote:

Its not just spread by the documentary. Sane people like Lanegan or kim gordon have both suggested they dont believe the suicide theory. Its one thing for loons to claim it, its another for legendary musicians to support the conspiracy theory.

Most of my favourite musicians are loons....

catefrances

me too.
courtney says some fucked up stuff and does some stupid things(as many people do)but kill her husband???.. get real people.. it didnt happen.

facepollution

left the porch wrote:

Is that you Courtney?

Great come back :roll: