THE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES...

lukin2006

rick1zoo2 wrote:

Eagles need to go back to basics: tackling, holding on to the ball, blocking, managing the clock, play calling

hasn't managing the clock always been an issue with reid?

The Juggler

lukin2006 wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

Eagles need to go back to basics: tackling, holding on to the ball, blocking, managing the clock, play calling

hasn't managing the clock always been an issue with reid?

yeah. but in all fairness, he's only had 13 years to master it.

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

Eagles need to go back to basics: tackling, holding on to the ball, blocking, managing the clock, play calling

hasn't managing the clock always been an issue with reid?

yeah. but in all fairness, he's only had 13 years to master it.

def a reid weakness, but I thought they did a decent job at the end of the first half yesterday. until vick decided to hold the ball for an eternity like he always does and let time expire.

they had all their timeouts at the end of the game too.

yesterday was awful, but for once reid's time management can't be blamed. unless you fault him for expecting his dumb ass qb to know he has to throw the ball

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

yeah. but in all fairness, he's only had 13 years to master it.

def a reid weakness, but I thought they did a decent job at the end of the first half yesterday. until vick decided to hold the ball for an eternity like he always does and let time expire.

they had all their timeouts at the end of the game too.

yesterday was awful, but for once reid's time management can't be blamed. unless you fault him for expecting his dumb ass qb to know he has to throw the ball

no his time management can't be blamed for yesterday.

just about everything else that he hand picked can be blamed.

rick1zoo2

lukin2006 wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

Eagles need to go back to basics: tackling, holding on to the ball, blocking, managing the clock, play calling

hasn't managing the clock always been an issue with reid?

yes, as well as sticking with plays that don't work and abandoning things that are working.

lukin2006

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

merrill's call of parker jumping offsides:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1wjCCU4 ... _embedded#!



how does that happen?

I was listening to them on satellite radio when I was out and about yesterday (or least I think it was them), not bad announcers, I didn't find them to much like homers.

I like the color guy..."I knew that". , everybody knew that, but the guy who jumped... . The NFC East is weak this year...I think anybody can win it...

merrill reese is a big time homer. i still love him because he's not afraid to rip the eagles though.

who do the cowboys have next week? the "big" sunday nighter is a couple weeks away

I only listened to it for an hour or so and the eagles were down 28-7 or something like that...I have heard worse homers by far...I still thought they were good and easy on the ears.

We go to New England next week, then we have St. Louis at home then we get you guys coming off a bye in Philly...playing St Louis should be like a bye ...we'll probably lose to them .

I just hope we have Austin back next week and a healthy Bryant, Scandrick and Newman.

Philly and Dallas game could be a battle of Celler Dwellers .

The Juggler

rick1zoo2 wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

Eagles need to go back to basics: tackling, holding on to the ball, blocking, managing the clock, play calling

hasn't managing the clock always been an issue with reid?

yes, as well as sticking with plays that don't work and abandoning things that are working.

at least the whole "promoting the offensive line coach to coordinate the defense" thing is working out though....wait

The Juggler

lukin2006 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I was listening to them on satellite radio when I was out and about yesterday (or least I think it was them), not bad announcers, I didn't find them to much like homers.

I like the color guy..."I knew that". , everybody knew that, but the guy who jumped... . The NFC East is weak this year...I think anybody can win it...

merrill reese is a big time homer. i still love him because he's not afraid to rip the eagles though.

who do the cowboys have next week? the "big" sunday nighter is a couple weeks away

I only listened to it for an hour or so and the eagles were down 28-7 or something like that...I have heard worse homers by far...I still thought they were good and easy on the ears.

We go to New England next week, then we have St. Louis at home then we get you guys coming off a bye in Philly...playing St Louis should be like a bye ...we'll probably lose to them .

I just hope we have Austin back next week and a healthy Bryant, Scandrick and Newman.

Philly and Dallas game could be a battle of Celler Dwellers .

sadly this division may end up looking like the nfc west last year.

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

yeah. but in all fairness, he's only had 13 years to master it.

def a reid weakness, but I thought they did a decent job at the end of the first half yesterday. until vick decided to hold the ball for an eternity like he always does and let time expire.

they had all their timeouts at the end of the game too.

yesterday was awful, but for once reid's time management can't be blamed. unless you fault him for expecting his dumb ass qb to know he has to throw the ball

no his time management can't be blamed for yesterday.

just about everything else that he hand picked can be blamed.

I'm a bigger reid supporter than anyone and I'd fire him for vick. they will never win with that guy under center

watching rodgers last night makes it all kind of irrelevant anyway. no one is beating that team if they're healthy. though apparently it's good enough to make the playoffs in philly these days

Flagg

Everyone use to criticize the Cowboys for bumbling errors and idiotic coaching decisions and now the Eagles are doing it. Peter King called them sloppy and dumb on Twitter yesterday. Ouch.

I bet Wade Phillips would like another shot!

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

def a reid weakness, but I thought they did a decent job at the end of the first half yesterday. until vick decided to hold the ball for an eternity like he always does and let time expire.

they had all their timeouts at the end of the game too.

yesterday was awful, but for once reid's time management can't be blamed. unless you fault him for expecting his dumb ass qb to know he has to throw the ball

no his time management can't be blamed for yesterday.

just about everything else that he hand picked can be blamed.

I'm a bigger reid supporter than anyone and I'd fire him for vick. they will never win with that guy under center

watching rodgers last night makes it all kind of irrelevant anyway. no one is beating that team if they're healthy

like i said, kolb has been one of the worst qb's in football so far. tough to blame him for choosing vick over him. there is a whole lot of things reid should be fired for though.

lukin2006

Now do people in Philly expect reids job to in jeopardy if the finish below 500. Playoffs are questionable at this point...looks like only the division winner this year will get in, unless someone get on a roll, I'm not sure anyone in the nfc east is about to get on a roll...

The Juggler

Flagg wrote:

Everyone use to criticize the Cowboys for bumbling errors and idiotic coaching decisions and now the Eagles are doing it. Peter King called them sloppy and dumb on Twitter yesterday. Ouch.

I bet Wade Phillips would like another shot!

this is the worst coached eagles team since back in the days when you guys were consistently winning playoff games.

The Juggler

lukin2006 wrote:

Now do people in Philly expect reids job to in jeopardy if the finish below 500. Playoffs are questionable at this point...looks like only the division winner this year will get in, unless someone get on a roll, I'm not sure anyone in the nfc east is about to get on a roll...

absolutely. even his staunchest supporters are saying this now.

RW81233

Wade Phillips as Andy Reid's D-Coordinator would be a genius move tactically....you'd easily win 10+ games. However, if you want any sort of understanding about when to take time-outs, not use gimmick plays near the end zone (or run a gimmick offense for that matter), and when to throw the challenge flag this would be a failure.

lukin2006

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

merrill reese is a big time homer. i still love him because he's not afraid to rip the eagles though.

who do the cowboys have next week? the "big" sunday nighter is a couple weeks away

I only listened to it for an hour or so and the eagles were down 28-7 or something like that...I have heard worse homers by far...I still thought they were good and easy on the ears.

We go to New England next week, then we have St. Louis at home then we get you guys coming off a bye in Philly...playing St Louis should be like a bye ...we'll probably lose to them .

I just hope we have Austin back next week and a healthy Bryant, Scandrick and Newman.

Philly and Dallas game could be a battle of Celler Dwellers .

sadly this division may end up looking like the nfc west last year.

that's why it pisses me off so much that we blew those games...Dallas could be in the driver seat in the division...a division most thought was the eagles.

lukin2006

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Now do people in Philly expect reids job to in jeopardy if the finish below 500. Playoffs are questionable at this point...looks like only the division winner this year will get in, unless someone get on a roll, I'm not sure anyone in the nfc east is about to get on a roll...

absolutely. even his staunchest supporters are saying this now.

Eagles teams are usually strong second half teams...he might do enough to save his job.

RW81233

Eagles are having the same type of season as last year's Cowboys. QB questions (some love too much, some hate too much), Coach with job on the line, a Defense that has talent in most spots but is getting exposed for its weaknesses, terrible turnovers and an inability to scored TDs or make easy FGs (Beuhler!??!?!), terrible Penalties (yesterday vs. the Cowboy hold in Week 1 is pretty evenly crappy), and losing close games for no reason leads to a 1-4 start.

lukin2006

RW81233 wrote:

Wade Phillips as Andy Reid's D-Coordinator would be a genius move tactically....you'd easily win 10+ games. However, if you want any sort of understanding about when to take time-outs, not use gimmick plays near the end zone (or run a gimmick offense for that matter), and when to throw the challenge flag this would be a failure.

Isn't he the D-Coordinator in Houston now? probably his last stop before retirement. As a D-Coordinator he's pretty good...not so much as a head coach.

The Fixer

The Juggler wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Now do people in Philly expect reids job to in jeopardy if the finish below 500. Playoffs are questionable at this point...looks like only the division winner this year will get in, unless someone get on a roll, I'm not sure anyone in the nfc east is about to get on a roll...

absolutely. even his staunchest supporters are saying this now.

I'd let the year play out. I'd probably give him one more year (lot of new coaches and players this year).

I'm definitely in the minority though. something like 2% minority