exactly
There is a certain degree, if the guy was yelling for the first 3 songs and noticibley intoxicate, tell him, than security. Security wiil likely watch him warn him and than see what happens, if he is so drunk he doesnt listen to security he is tossed.
That is normal, it doesnt involve narcing or any of the such.
I dont know if its all moms, or just younger generation fans that havent (lived) yet but this is all common sense and would apply in your local resturaunt, its pretty simple protocal.
WhY is it always so divided on these basic issues.
so you would tell security about some guy who is yelling at a show?????
but i would be an asshole if i asked the pothead next to me to quit smoking his illegal drugs?????
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
so you would tell security about some guy who is yelling at a show?????
but i would be an asshole if i asked the pothead next to me to quit smoking his illegal drugs?????
no.
he's saying that if somenoe is being obnoxious and absolutely annoying and won't stop after several requests, then they deserve to be tossed. I wouldn't want some guy that was yelling just dumb shit to be behind me and ruin the show for me.
infact, the first and only PJ show I went to, I got the unfortunate privilege of having some drunk ass come down and stand in the aisle right next to me and just sit and rant his mouth saying"...this guy...Tom Petty...it's british man, it's all british." That asshole ruined 3 songs for me until security came down and asked me if I knew the guy. I said no and that dude was gone and the concert was back to it's normal level of perfection.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I wonder why people have such bad manners at these shows?
Have you ever left you house, people have bad manners everywhere, its up to the ones that do to have a fun wild time and implant respect during the whole situation.
its a concert.....i dont expect people to sit there with their hands folded...
they usually dont bother me either, but this show was different, it wasnt a stand up show were everyone was dancing, everyone was sitting and listening singing whatev, but these people would yell shit right over when Ed was talking and you couldn't hear Ed... I paid for listening to Ed talk about whatever he wants to talk about not some stupid ass yelling "It's OK Ed" "PLAY SOCIETY".... it was very annoying ....
we had tons of fun in Seattle as usual we were there for a week
"Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
Have you ever left you house, people have bad manners everywhere, its up to the ones that do to have a fun wild time and implant respect during the whole situation.
Balance
No, you're right. I haven't ever been out of my house. I've never been to a concert where people are quiet so the performer can hear himself...
What a jerk I am to wonder why people don't bother to control themselves!
Nice response. But in answer to your question... No. Just because you don't agree with me that doesn't make you immature and lacking in class. However, I sense you lack maturity and class because of the way you communicate.
I mean, seriously, read what you wrote again, dude. You come across like a Neanderthal. Not a smart Neanderthal either. One of the dumber ones.
Why does it always come down to discord between fans. I think its becasue some think they are better than others. Honestly I bet the one crying in here get pissed over 1 sentance, or when someoen has to go to the bathroom, or gets up to get a beverage. These are the people I fear at shows.
It doesnt take a genius to see when there is an obvious drunken heckler, so what really is the point of all this.
Everyone and their brother wouldnt like it if someone was out of control anywhere on the planet.
So why resort to this.
but you have no problem smoking your illegal drugs at a concert????
some of you people crack me the fuck up..........
Exactly, like instead of reading this godforsaken embarrising thread I should have just read your reply.
Like peopel are either to drunk or stoned or to stuck up to have balance and common sense.
Im sure the hecklers would realize they were wrong, and the people bitching could lighten up.
I really don't mean to get into your argument, and I won't go the limits of labeling you Neanderthal...but I just have to say that saying "Laying his soul out there?!?!?!?! IT'S A FUCKING CONCERT!!!" is quite disrespectful...It takes a lot of passion and guts to get on stage and perform, I think we've all been there at one point or another...there is a lot of pressure on the performer from the audience, and a douche that is yelling and screaming when it's really inappropriate can really take you out of your zone and break your concentration, BUT having said that...the disrespect began with the heckler.
Eddie is on stage performing because he feels that the people showing up will want to LISTEN while he plays his songs, which I'm sure he is damn proud of.
If that guy wanted to yell and scream amongst a large crowd, he should've went to a debate instead.
You do realize your talking about Ed Vedder right, he is big fan of punk music.I am sure he can handle this. Ive seen him hng from rafters.
Vancouver I had some of those idiots too, there was a guy that wouldn't shut up and yell "I LOVE YOU EDDIE" everytime Ed would start to tell a story and there was this idiot right next to me yelling "SHUT UP AND SING" and "PLAY SOCIETY"... OMG!! it was so annoying :(
You should have asked him to shut up,
did you have fun, I need to talk to you about hotels in west palm.
Hey Rockstar!
Just got back today from Seattle I'm exhausted..
I hate hecklers.. I was ready to to punch the one sitting right next to me!
THERE IS A DIFFERAance in heckling and singing though.
Singing out of key is not heckling, but I do not like people out of control anywhere. Just get security, especially with a bun in the oven.
You do realize your talking about Ed Vedder right, he is big fan of punk music.I am sure he can handle this. Ive seen him hng from rafters.
I'm sure he could handle it...I am aware of Ed's influences..
but if you were up on stage playing the setting that Ed was playing that night...I think you'd be a little bothered and some dipshit screaming stupid stuff as well...
It's just like paying to see a movie, and then the people behind you just talk through out the whole thing.
it's rude man.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
so you would tell security about some guy who is yelling at a show?????
but i would be an asshole if i asked the pothead next to me to quit smoking his illegal drugs?????
No yelling is fine, its out of control, like not being able to stand up, knocking into people, yelling very loudly and not being in tune with the show.
I would say hey bro ease up, at that point its all on them, if they are super fucking trashed than you know what im saying. They will spew onto someoen else.
If the person is yelling ed i love you
i could care less.
It would have to involve more than screaming during a show, if the person was into the show and was intune with what was going on Id wouldnt let it bother me, if he was yelling at other fans, and disrupting the show that is where the line is drawn.
ok so let me get this right....again its hard to keep up here...hehehehe
2,000 people singing at a concert...therefore making it hard for anyone to actually here EDDIE sing.......thats ok....
dancing at a concert.....thats ok.....
smoking illegal drugs at a concert....thats ok.....
going to a concert that is supporting 3 convicted child murderers.....thats ok...
but screaming over EDDIE when he is talking???? thats bad...........and security must immediately throw the guy screaming..... out of the concert....
give me a fucking break.......
Hey thats not my beef, if I am standing there and someoen is puking, knocking people over and fighting with people verbally and disrupting the show you have to draw the line, you said yourself in the weed post kindly ask someoen to stop, in turn have respect. Thats all
I yell when i talk, its my nature. I am loud.
If I came up to you speedy and said get the fuck outta my way, and spilled my beer on you, and you said hey ease up, when i come back from the bathroom and accidentally knock you or your wife over and fall on top of you what would you do.
If I came up to you speedy and said get the fuck outta my way, and spilled my beer on you, and you said hey ease up, when i come back from the bathroom and accidentally knock you or your wife over and fall on top of you what would you do.
hehehehehehehe...........................
my problem here is with people complaining about hecklers...
its a fucking concert....if people want to scream....i dont give a fuck....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
So your saying you bascially started a fight with a drunk guy and then was a bigger weasel by telling security that you "felt threatened". You created the situation and lied to security (sorry, you weren't threatend enough to go up to perfect stranger and tell them to "shut up", which is probably bullshit too since your obviously leaving something out). Your probably a bigger douche then the drunk.
learn to read.....douche.
he wanted to fight after the fact i told him to shut up.
you. are. bullshit.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
can't say i feel hate toward any one on a message board...
his whole post was wrong/full of assumptions...
anyway....yea, the use of the 'd' word seems to be the new thing.
You have been on here long enough, hate sucks, and i agree way to many assumptions.
It is common sense when someone is to fucked up to be at a show, and that involves accepting what kind of behavior the person is displaying, if I was ruining a whole rows time at a show Id want to know, if it was just 1 fan, id be like cmon pal. ease up.
Like the standing up issue, ive been told to sit down, I just move out of the way ui dont sit down.
mr. vedder sitting on a stool singing a bunch of protests songs....
supporting 3 convicted child murderers....
where the fans are expected to sit quietly with their hands folded.....
just doesnt really appeal to me....
well, maybe.. you could possibly understand... those of us who enjoy EV for the artist he is... your comments are making you look kind of stupid...
no one is "expected to sit quietly with their hands folded".. they are just expected to respect the man they paid to see.. there is a big difference between these shows.. or any intimate show.. and a full-on "concert"...
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but i would be an asshole if i asked the pothead next to me to quit smoking his illegal drugs?????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
hecklers dont bother me at all...
its a concert.....i dont expect people to sit there with their hands folded...
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
no.
he's saying that if somenoe is being obnoxious and absolutely annoying and won't stop after several requests, then they deserve to be tossed. I wouldn't want some guy that was yelling just dumb shit to be behind me and ruin the show for me.
infact, the first and only PJ show I went to, I got the unfortunate privilege of having some drunk ass come down and stand in the aisle right next to me and just sit and rant his mouth saying"...this guy...Tom Petty...it's british man, it's all british." That asshole ruined 3 songs for me until security came down and asked me if I knew the guy. I said no and that dude was gone and the concert was back to it's normal level of perfection.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Have you ever left you house, people have bad manners everywhere, its up to the ones that do to have a fun wild time and implant respect during the whole situation.
Balance
no more shows
they usually dont bother me either, but this show was different, it wasnt a stand up show were everyone was dancing, everyone was sitting and listening singing whatev, but these people would yell shit right over when Ed was talking and you couldn't hear Ed... I paid for listening to Ed talk about whatever he wants to talk about not some stupid ass yelling "It's OK Ed" "PLAY SOCIETY".... it was very annoying ....
we had tons of fun in Seattle as usual
No, you're right. I haven't ever been out of my house. I've never been to a concert where people are quiet so the performer can hear himself...
What a jerk I am to wonder why people don't bother to control themselves!
What was I thinking?!
(In case you missed it, I'm being sarcastic.)
Why does it always come down to discord between fans. I think its becasue some think they are better than others. Honestly I bet the one crying in here get pissed over 1 sentance, or when someoen has to go to the bathroom, or gets up to get a beverage. These are the people I fear at shows.
It doesnt take a genius to see when there is an obvious drunken heckler, so what really is the point of all this.
Everyone and their brother wouldnt like it if someone was out of control anywhere on the planet.
So why resort to this.
no more shows
Exactly, like instead of reading this godforsaken embarrising thread I should have just read your reply.
Like peopel are either to drunk or stoned or to stuck up to have balance and common sense.
Im sure the hecklers would realize they were wrong, and the people bitching could lighten up.
no more shows
no more shows
You should have asked him to shut up,
did you have fun, I need to talk to you about hotels in west palm.
no more shows
THERE IS A DIFFERAance in heckling and singing though.
Singing out of key is not heckling, but I do not like people out of control anywhere. Just get security, especially with a bun in the oven.
no more shows
and respectfull
mooncalf agreed" THe BANd
I'm sure he could handle it...I am aware of Ed's influences..
but if you were up on stage playing the setting that Ed was playing that night...I think you'd be a little bothered and some dipshit screaming stupid stuff as well...
It's just like paying to see a movie, and then the people behind you just talk through out the whole thing.
it's rude man.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
No yelling is fine, its out of control, like not being able to stand up, knocking into people, yelling very loudly and not being in tune with the show.
I would say hey bro ease up, at that point its all on them, if they are super fucking trashed than you know what im saying. They will spew onto someoen else.
If the person is yelling ed i love you
i could care less.
no more shows
2,000 people singing at a concert...therefore making it hard for anyone to actually here EDDIE sing.......thats ok....
dancing at a concert.....thats ok.....
smoking illegal drugs at a concert....thats ok.....
going to a concert that is supporting 3 convicted child murderers.....thats ok...
but screaming over EDDIE when he is talking???? thats bad...........and security must immediately throw the guy screaming..... out of the concert....
give me a fucking break.......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
no more shows
if security were to throw out every drunkin obnoxious asshole....
then the Camden shows last year would have ended up with 32 people in the audience......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Hey thats not my beef, if I am standing there and someoen is puking, knocking people over and fighting with people verbally and disrupting the show you have to draw the line, you said yourself in the weed post kindly ask someoen to stop, in turn have respect. Thats all
I yell when i talk, its my nature. I am loud.
no more shows
no more shows
my problem here is with people complaining about hecklers...
its a fucking concert....if people want to scream....i dont give a fuck....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
learn to read.....douche.
he wanted to fight after the fact i told him to shut up.
you. are. bullshit.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
. . . And you've would have been pissed that you got thrown out
hey speedy.. have you been to any of these EV solo shows yet?
10/20/91 (Omaha), 7/25/92 (Lolla/Denver), 3/7/94 (Denver), 6/20/95 (Red Rocks), 11/14/97 (Oakland), 6/23/98 (Denver), 10/25/00 (SD), 6/05/03 (SD), 10/8/04 (FL), 7/2/06 (Denver), 7/17/08 (VH1-Who Tribute LA), 10/6/09 (LA), 10/7/09 (LA), 9/3/11 & 9/4/11(PJ20), 12/06/13 (Seattle), 10/09/14 (Lincoln)..
actually i was sober the entire camden trip....hehehehehe
which made camden that much fucking harder to deal with....
hehehehehehehe...............
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
:eek:
Glad Lolla was a different beast
Did you hear Lupe is playing again?
wow such hate. and what is it with the d word that seems to be like the new thing around here.
no more shows
mr. vedder sitting on a stool singing a bunch of protests songs....
supporting 3 convicted child murderers....
where the fans are expected to sit quietly with their hands folded.....
just doesnt really appeal to me....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
can't say i feel hate toward any one on a message board...
his whole post was wrong/full of assumptions...
anyway....yea, the use of the 'd' word seems to be the new thing.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
You have been on here long enough, hate sucks, and i agree way to many assumptions.
It is common sense when someone is to fucked up to be at a show, and that involves accepting what kind of behavior the person is displaying, if I was ruining a whole rows time at a show Id want to know, if it was just 1 fan, id be like cmon pal. ease up.
Like the standing up issue, ive been told to sit down, I just move out of the way ui dont sit down.
no more shows
well, maybe.. you could possibly understand... those of us who enjoy EV for the artist he is... your comments are making you look kind of stupid...
no one is "expected to sit quietly with their hands folded".. they are just expected to respect the man they paid to see.. there is a big difference between these shows.. or any intimate show.. and a full-on "concert"...
10/20/91 (Omaha), 7/25/92 (Lolla/Denver), 3/7/94 (Denver), 6/20/95 (Red Rocks), 11/14/97 (Oakland), 6/23/98 (Denver), 10/25/00 (SD), 6/05/03 (SD), 10/8/04 (FL), 7/2/06 (Denver), 7/17/08 (VH1-Who Tribute LA), 10/6/09 (LA), 10/7/09 (LA), 9/3/11 & 9/4/11(PJ20), 12/06/13 (Seattle), 10/09/14 (Lincoln)..