Does it matter if the President was born in Kenya?

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  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Is Obama a good American?
    what exactly is your definition of a good American?

    One must love America in order to be a good American.
    One must understand why America is free and what liberty means
    One must want everybody who wants to be free to be free.
    Liberty is what makes us human Children of God and Liberty can not be taken away or given by government of men
    A good American wants to govern ones self and wants you to govern yourself

    We have it very very good here in America and we Americans are good to our fellow human beings.
    A good American want's it to stay that way.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    otter wrote:
    Children of God
    Sorry. Isn't religious freedom a big part of America?
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    keeponrockin wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Children of God
    Sorry. Isn't religious freedom a big part of America?

    You're free to try many flavors of Christianity. Find one that suits your hypocricy.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    otter wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Is Obama a good American?
    what exactly is your definition of a good American?

    One must love America in order to be a good American.

    nothing wrong with loving America, but that doesn't necessarily make you a 'good American'. don't forget that patriotism has never been blind allegiance to people or policy. patriotism is loyalty to an ideal - to principle. if you feel that an injustice has been committed, or ideals or principles have been betrayed, you should speak out in defense of them. speak out to preserve what you feel is great and speak out because of what you love about your country.
  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    How much proof do people need? Get. Over. It.

    If you don't like him, vote for the other guy or girl in 2012.
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  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Flagg wrote:
    How much proof do people need? Get. Over. It.

    If you don't like him, vote for the other guy or girl in 2012.
    :clap::clap::clap: :thumbup:
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    nothing wrong with loving America, but that doesn't necessarily make you a 'good American'. don't forget that patriotism has never been blind allegiance to people or policy. patriotism is loyalty to an ideal - to principle. if you feel that an injustice has been committed, or ideals or principles have been betrayed, you should speak out in defense of them. speak out to preserve what you feel is great and speak out because of what you love about your country.

    Amen to that. I never got the "Patriot" argument post-9/11 - that if you questioned anything the government was doing, you weren't a "patriot." Wouldn't a patriot be someone who wants their government to be held accountable in the best interests of the nation?
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    keeponrockin wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Children of God
    Sorry. Isn't religious freedom a big part of America?

    That's actually my favorite quote from anyone regarding the Muslim center being built in New York... I don't remember who said it (I think it was a comedian), and I don't remember the exact wording, but the gist of it is that he personally isn't comfortable with the idea of this place being built two blocks from Ground Zero, but to deny them the right to build it would be going against everything the country stands for.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    well yesterday sarah palin said it is completely appropriate to continue to question obama's citizenship....i guess morons will follow morons like lemmings off a cliff...

    to anyone that believes obama was born in kenya i have a bridge i want to sell....highest bidder gets it...starting......NOW!
    sometimes i wonder if sarah palin was even born on this planet
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    otter wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Is Obama a good American?
    what exactly is your definition of a good American?

    One must love America in order to be a good American.
    One must understand why America is free and what liberty means
    One must want everybody who wants to be free to be free.
    Liberty is what makes us human Children of God and Liberty can not be taken away or given by government of men
    A good American wants to govern ones self and wants you to govern yourself

    We have it very very good here in America and we Americans are good to our fellow human beings.
    A good American want's it to stay that way.

    Define/elaborate, pretty please.
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  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Children of God
    Sorry. Isn't religious freedom a big part of America?

    That's actually my favorite quote from anyone regarding the Muslim center being built in New York... I don't remember who said it (I think it was a comedian), and I don't remember the exact wording, but the gist of it is that he personally isn't comfortable with the idea of this place being built two blocks from Ground Zero, but to deny them the right to build it would be going against everything the country stands for.
    Nope it was me, about 20 posts up. ;)
  • MotoDC
    MotoDC Posts: 947
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    otter wrote:
    Children of God
    Sorry. Isn't religious freedom a big part of America?

    That's actually my favorite quote from anyone regarding the Muslim center being built in New York... I don't remember who said it (I think it was a comedian), and I don't remember the exact wording, but the gist of it is that he personally isn't comfortable with the idea of this place being built two blocks from Ground Zero, but to deny them the right to build it would be going against everything the country stands for.
    Nope it was me, about 20 posts up. ;)
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    So what does "natural born citizen" mean anyway?

    I really don't think it is out of the realm of possibility Obama doesn't finish his first term. :)
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  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    Phake

    Phake


    Obama is brave :o

    What the hell is up with that fake ass grade schooler photoshopin b.s. that is the "birth cert as old as him"?

    Please explain you Obama peeps.... :?:
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    How about the fact that John McCain was born in Panama while his father was stationed there?

    if you are born on a U.S. base you are considered a natural born U.S. citizen
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Wow, this puppy is old
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    otter wrote:
    So what does "natural born citizen" mean anyway?

    I really don't think it is out of the realm of possibility Obama doesn't finish his first term. :)

    It means you were born in this country and did not immigrate and become a citizen.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,802
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    otter wrote:
    So what does "natural born citizen" mean anyway?

    I really don't think it is out of the realm of possibility Obama doesn't finish his first term. :)

    It means you were born in this country and did not immigrate and become a citizen.
    like say.......

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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    mickeyrat wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    otter wrote:
    So what does "natural born citizen" mean anyway?

    I really don't think it is out of the realm of possibility Obama doesn't finish his first term. :)

    It means you were born in this country and did not immigrate and become a citizen.
    like say.......

    Hawaii. :fp:

    Haha, yup
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    :corn:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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