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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    stay classy

    garnett wasn't even the best player on that team :lol:

    you never cease to amaze
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:

    college basketball and the NBA are totally different worlds though. brad stevens and what he does in college has no relevance to the NBA. as I said above the only way to win big in the NBA is by having one of the top 5 (and 5 might be a stretch) players. no chance to win a title without one of those. that's just how the game is setup in the NBA. it makes no difference if your coach is Phil Jackson or Latoya Jackson if you don't have one of those top players...right now the sixers have average talent and get a mediocre draft position. Unless they tank a season or two or somehow convince one of the top players (about a 1% chance) to come here in the next few years there is zero chance of winning big with this GM or any of the coaches mentioned. so can't be excited for the hire because without one of hose top players it's fairly insiginificant anyway.

    do you think any team is winning a title in the next 5 years that doesn't have Lebron, Durant, Duncan (and this is probably his last chance), and maybe chris paul or derrick rose (if he ever actually decides it's time to play again) on it? I don't.

    celtics won multiple titles without a top 5 player

    #getaclueforonce


    the Celtics have only won one title since 1986 and that was in 2008 and Kevin Garnett was 3rd in the MVP voting that year.

    the 2004 Detroit Pistons are the only team in the last 20 years to win a title without a top 5 player.

    #kissmyassyouknowitallpieceofshit
    #learntogooglebeforeopeningyourbigfnmouth

    when getting owned, resort to name calling. hilarious

    unlike some who frequent these treads, you don't have to worry about me running and telling on you
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    The Fixer wrote:

    when getting owned, resort to name calling. hilarious

    unlike some who frequent these treads, you don't have to worry about me running and telling on you


    you can't even admit you were wrong from two posts up. :fp: typical

    let me repeat it slowly for you...Celtics haven't won multiple titles since the 80s and garnett was 3rd in mvp voting in the year they did win.

    #thusendeththelesson
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    edited May 2013
    The Fixer wrote:
    stay classy

    garnett wasn't even the best player on that team :lol:

    you never cease to amaze

    3rd in MVP voting and Defensive Player of the Year. #tryagain
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    when getting owned, resort to name calling. hilarious

    unlike some who frequent these treads, you don't have to worry about me running and telling on you


    you can't even admit you were wrong from two posts up. :fp: typical

    let me repeat it slowly for you...Celtics haven't won multiple titles since the 80s and garnett was 3rd in mvp voting in the year they did win.

    #thusendeththelesson

    yeah, I was wrong. I thought boston won twice.

    MVP voting. That is what you use to support your argument. :lol::lol:

    Carmelo Anthony was only player besides lebron to get a first place vote this year. By your logic that means he's the second best player in the league.

    You need help bro. lots and lots of help
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    when getting owned, resort to name calling. hilarious

    unlike some who frequent these treads, you don't have to worry about me running and telling on you


    you can't even admit you were wrong from two posts up. :fp: typical

    let me repeat it slowly for you...Celtics haven't won multiple titles since the 80s and garnett was 3rd in mvp voting in the year they did win.

    #thusendeththelesson

    yeah, I was wrong. I thought boston won twice.

    MVP voting. That is what you use to support your argument. :lol::lol:

    Carmelo Anthony was only player besides lebron to get a first place vote this year. By your logic that means he's the second best player in the league.

    You need help bro. lots and lots of help

    yes but Durant finished 2nd in the mvp voting, carmelo third. #tryonceagain
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:

    yes but Durant finished 2nd in the mvp voting, carmelo third. #tryonceagain

    ok, so you're saying carmelo is third best player in the league. Funny
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:

    yes but Durant finished 2nd in the mvp voting, carmelo third. #tryonceagain

    ok, so you're saying carmelo is third best player in the league. Funny

    show me where I ever said Carmelo was one of the top 5 players.

    are you still disputing my comment about you need a top 5 player to win an NBA title? that's how all this started. please feel free to list the ones over the last 25 years or so who have won a title without one. you can use google if you like. i'll wait to be proven wrong as opposed to the opinion of a know it all.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:

    yes but Durant finished 2nd in the mvp voting, carmelo third. #tryonceagain

    ok, so you're saying carmelo is third best player in the league. Funny

    show me where I ever said Carmelo was one of the top 5 players.

    are you still disputing my comment about you need a top 5 player to win an NBA title? that's how all this started. please feel free to list the ones over the last 25 years or so who have won a title without one. you can use google if you like. i'll wait to be proven wrong as opposed to the opinion of a know it all.

    you said garnett was a top 5 player based on mvp voting. carmelo was top 5 in mvp voting. try to keep up, it's not that difficult.

    It certainly helps to have a top 5 player, but it's not a requirement as you claim. Boston and Detroit are two examples. Dallas and Miami (pre-lebron) could make arguments as well.

    Also, the real debate wasn't about NBA titles...it was more about sabermetrics being used as an effective tool for accurate performance analysis. Juggler wiped the mat with you, so I don't blame you for trying to change the subject. It's entertaining to see which posts you choose to respond to...and which you conveniently choose to ignore.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    what does # mean?
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    The Fixer wrote:
    you said garnett was a top 5 player based on mvp voting. carmelo was top 5 in mvp voting. try to keep up, it's not that difficult.

    It certainly helps to have a top 5 player, but it's not a requirement as you claim. Boston and Detroit are two examples. Dallas and Miami (pre-lebron) could make arguments as well.

    Also, the real debate wasn't about NBA titles...it was more about sabermetrics being used as an effective tool for accurate performance analysis. Juggler wiped the mat with you, so I don't blame you for trying to change the subject. It's entertaining to see which posts you choose to respond to...and which you conveniently choose to ignore.

    uhh my 1st response, and all subsequent ones, to you in this thread was in response to you saying Celtics won multiple titles (wrong) without a top 5 player (wrong).


    anyways let';s go with FACTS:

    17 of the last 20 title teams have included Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, Jordan or Olajuwon. or as we like to call them 6 of the top 20 or so players in the history of the league. wow

    only 2x has a team won without a 1st team all league player (2011 mavs with nowitzki who was 2nd team all league and 2004 pistons)

    so yea your chance of winning one without a top 5 player are pretty darn low which was the point of the argument.

    so unless hinkie convinces Lebron, Durant, Derrick Rose and maybe Chris Paul to come here or somehow performs a miracle and gets a top 5 player with a mediocre draft pick his advanced degrees and advanced stats aren't helping shit.

    thanks for playing. goodnight
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited May 2013
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I love the Hinkie hire. Hopefully this the beginning of the end of this endless cycle of terribleness.

    Now get a young coach who can help the rebuild process

    sabermetrics for basketball, dear god :fp:

    if you don't get one of the top 5 players in the NBA you have ZERO chance to win a title. .

    Here is your quote, which is accurately inaccurate

    Detroit did it
    Boston did it
    Dallas did it
    Miami did it (pre-lebron) - this one is debateable

    we are running out of space in your loss column. at least you will have the first pick again this year
    Post edited by The Fixer on
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I love the Hinkie hire. Hopefully this the beginning of the end of this endless cycle of terribleness.

    Now get a young coach who can help the rebuild process

    sabermetrics for basketball, dear god :fp:

    if you don't get one of the top 5 players in the NBA you have ZERO chance to win a title. .

    Here is your quote.

    Detroit did it
    Boston did it
    Dallas did it
    Miami did it (pre-lebron)

    we are running out of space in your loss column. at least you will have the first pick again this year

    Shaq was on the 2006 Miami title team (and was 1ast team all nba) pre-LeBron - you are wrong again. seriously try google before you respond next time. http://www.google.com
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:

    sabermetrics for basketball, dear god :fp:

    if you don't get one of the top 5 players in the NBA you have ZERO chance to win a title. .

    Here is your quote.

    Detroit did it
    Boston did it
    Dallas did it
    Miami did it (pre-lebron)

    we are running out of space in your loss column. at least you will have the first pick again this year

    Shaq was on the 2006 Miami title team pre-LeBron - you are wrong again. seriously try google before you respond next time. http://www.google.com

    if you think shaq was a top 5 player in 2006 then you need even more help than I thought (which is a scary thought)
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    shaq point totals in 2006 finals

    17
    5
    16
    17
    18
    9

    13.6 PPG

    Another good call by you...that's definitely a top 5 nba performance. :roll:
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    The Fixer wrote:
    shaq point totals in 2006 finals

    17
    5
    16
    17
    18
    9

    13.6 PPG

    Another good call by you...that's definitely a top 5 nba performance. :roll:
    What's was his WAR???? :lol:
    Go Birds!!!!
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    The Fixer wrote:

    if you think shaq was a top 5 player in 2006 then you need even more help than I thought (which is a scary thought)

    actually he is officially recognized by the NBA as a top 5 player in 2006 by being voted 1st team all league that season. again that's a historical fact written in NBA history books, not an opinion.

    and you didn't even realize he was on that team until I pointed it out to you so not sure how you can even say that he was or wasn't a top 5 player that year.

    i'll go with the official NBA records as opposed to your opinion.

    thanks for playing.
  • jamminpearls
    jamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    pjhawks wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    if you think shaq was a top 5 player in 2006 then you need even more help than I thought (which is a scary thought)

    actually he is officially recognized by the NBA as a top 5 player in 2006 by being voted 1st team all league that season. again that's a historical fact written in NBA history books, not an opinion.

    and you didn't even realize he was on that team until I pointed it out to you so not sure how you can even say that he was or wasn't a top 5 player that year.

    i'll go with the official NBA records as opposed to your opinion.

    thanks for playing.
    Why keep wasting your time? The dude will never tell you your correct.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,910
    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/six ... ytics.html

    Hall of Famer Larry Brown agrees with me on advanced statistics in basketball. feel free to bash him as well guys ;)
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    The Juggler wrote:
    what does # mean?

    It's a twitter hashtag.
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