News Alert! Guys don't want to be "Just friends"

lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
edited December 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
I'm just saying...Girls no staight guy wants to be your "good friend" if you are the least bit hot.. we want the "benefits" ...

Friends we got..
Famous scene from "When Harry mey Sally":

Harry Burns: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally Albright: Why not?
Harry Burns: What I'm saying is - and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form - is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally Albright: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: No you don't.
Sally Albright: Yes I do.
Harry Burns: You only think you do.
Sally Albright: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry Burns: No, what I'm saying is they all WANT to have sex with you.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: They do not.
Harry Burns: Do too.
Sally Albright: How do you know?
Harry Burns: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally Albright: So, you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry Burns: No. You pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally Albright: What if THEY don't want to have sex with YOU?
Harry Burns: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.
Sally Albright: Well, I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry Burns: I guess not.
Sally Albright: That's too bad. You were the only person I knew in New York.
"This here's a REQUEST!"
EV intro to Chloe Dancer / Crown of Thorns
10/25/13 Hartford
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    edited November 2009
    locked wrote:
    I'm just saying...Girls no staight guy wants to be your "good friend" if you are the least bit hot.. we want the "benefits" ...
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: ,,benefits....
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,380
    well it depends

    IMHO
    if you are friends with a woman for awhile and benefits happen later, then you can go back to being friends
    if its a romantic relationship from the start, then you cant be friends after


    and ive known some hot women that Ive wanted nothing more than to bee friends-too crazy with their boyfriends
  • Get_Right wrote:
    well it depends

    IMHO
    if you are friends with a woman for awhile and benefits happen later, then you can go back to being friends
    if its a romantic relationship from the start, then you cant be friends after


    and ive known some hot women that Ive wanted nothing more than to bee friends-too crazy with their boyfriends
    thats so true...+plus when u have a girlfriend is more easy to have just friends other women...
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Well that's their failing and problem if you ask me.
  • pjfan31pjfan31 Posts: 7,335
    Don't ya know it.

    When you become friends with a hot, nice girl, well you start thinking they're the package.

    I have a number of hot friends, and I would be lying if never thought about them in another sense.
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  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    pjfan31 wrote:
    When you become friends with a hot, nice girl, well you start thinking they're the package.

    I have a number of hot friends, and I would be lying if never thought about them in another sense.

    See, in reality the FIRST thing that got you interested in her was how HOT she was.. and as long as you want to sleep with her then you are not "just friends"..

    read Harry's argument in the first post..
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  • pjfan31pjfan31 Posts: 7,335
    locked wrote:
    pjfan31 wrote:
    When you become friends with a hot, nice girl, well you start thinking they're the package.

    I have a number of hot friends, and I would be lying if never thought about them in another sense.

    See, in reality the FIRST thing that got you interested in her was how HOT she was.. and as long as you want to sleep with her then you are not "just friends"..

    read Harry's argument in the first post..


    Well initially, of course I want to bone them. But I'm a realist, it ain't going to happen. They're like first division, I'm 2nd or 3rd Division. It's rare that I step up and play in their league. But I can be friends with them, just it would be nice for a few fringe benefits.

    But if all this is common knowledge (because this saying is nearly as old as time itself), then how come chicks stay friends with you, if they know guys only want one thing???

    Oh and what about like mates girlfriends??? I would consider them friends, and I don't want to sleep with them because well, it would damage friendships.
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    " JUST FRIENDS " hey?.....Yeah...Yeah...Um yeah I spose' you COULD call it THAT!!! PMSL... :lol::lol:
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    pjfan31 wrote:

    But if all this is common knowledge (because this saying is nearly as old as time itself), then how come chicks stay friends with you, if they know guys only want one thing???
    cause she knows you will be her shoulder to cry on like always when that douchebag meathead kinda guy dumps her over and over
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  • metsfan wrote:
    pjfan31 wrote:

    But if all this is common knowledge (because this saying is nearly as old as time itself), then how come chicks stay friends with you, if they know guys only want one thing???
    cause she knows you will be her shoulder to cry on like always when that douchebag meathead kinda guy dumps her over and over

    Not necessarily just that - because women generally would like to be friends with guys....speaking for myself...regardless of what a guy wants from the relationship - it's easier to be friends with guys...they're simpler. Girls are bitches...and guys are fairly open usually. If you choose to be friends with a guy, yes, you know he would like to have sex or take things further, but you also know that in all likelihood, he isn't going to act on those desires unless you make the first move giving him an indication that he can. A girl can then have a guy as a friend, knowing what he wants makes it easier to be natural and friendly around him. Girls say stuff they don't mean, they are harder to be friends with....sorry if that doesn't make sense...I just personally find it easier to relate to guys and be friends with them, than women...so that's my take on it. ;)
  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    Oh and what about like mates girlfriends??? I would consider them friends, and I don't want to sleep with them because well, it would damage friendships.[/quote]

    again....

    if they are hot, you would if you had the chance..!

    you're a guy!
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    scb wrote:
    Well that's their failing and problem if you ask me.

    who said it's a failure or a problem?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pjfan31 wrote:
    locked wrote:
    pjfan31 wrote:
    When you become friends with a hot, nice girl, well you start thinking they're the package.

    I have a number of hot friends, and I would be lying if never thought about them in another sense.

    See, in reality the FIRST thing that got you interested in her was how HOT she was.. and as long as you want to sleep with her then you are not "just friends"..

    read Harry's argument in the first post..


    Well initially, of course I want to bone them. But I'm a realist, it ain't going to happen. They're like first division, I'm 2nd or 3rd Division. It's rare that I step up and play in their league. But I can be friends with them, just it would be nice for a few fringe benefits.

    But if all this is common knowledge (because this saying is nearly as old as time itself), then how come chicks stay friends with you, if they know guys only want one thing???

    Oh and what about like mates girlfriends??? I would consider them friends, and I don't want to sleep with them because well, it would damage friendships.

    becos, as chris rock says, it's like having a dick in a glass jar just in case nothing else works out. women also seem to be able to just ignore it or pretend it isn't true.
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    and ALLLLL this time...that's what I thought " FRIENDS " DID!!! lol ;););)
  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    metsfan wrote:
    pjfan31 wrote:

    But if all this is common knowledge (because this saying is nearly as old as time itself), then how come chicks stay friends with you, if they know guys only want one thing???
    cause she knows you will be her shoulder to cry on like always when that douchebag meathead kinda guy dumps her over and over

    Not necessarily just that - because women generally would like to be friends with guys....speaking for myself...regardless of what a guy wants from the relationship - it's easier to be friends with guys...they're simpler. Girls are bitches...and guys are fairly open usually. If you choose to be friends with a guy, yes, you know he would like to have sex or take things further, but you also know that in all likelihood, he isn't going to act on those desires unless you make the first move giving him an indication that he can. A girl can then have a guy as a friend, knowing what he wants makes it easier to be natural and friendly around him. Girls say stuff they don't mean, they are harder to be friends with....sorry if that doesn't make sense...I just personally find it easier to relate to guys and be friends with them, than women...so that's my take on it. ;)

    Its easier to be friends with the opposite sex because their is no competition to speak of. Guys are just as catty as women. I work with nothing but dudes, and you would swear its a soap where I work. I can say the same thing about women, they are really easy to talk to and get along because there is no competition and the lines are respected more then with same sex friendships.

    I got a woman to admit that women secretly know that they can't be just friends and that they keep a small amount of dudes on deck for those just incase moments. They fall into two categories: the first one is some one they will have sex with but don't have the same excitement as the bad boy, and usually are the rebound guy (these are also the guys they marry once they realize they can't control the bad boy). The second is dude they don't find attractive at all but will listen to their problems and won't create drama like another women would.

    As stated before, I work with nothing but dudes, I have NEVER heard any of them say they were real friends with a woman, just something they are working on until its their turn.

    Its a sad world, but its the reality of it. I call my friends to do guy things...i.e. Playstation, go shooting, play hockey, help with working on a car....etc. Women for the most part don't like to do those things, so there isn't as much in common with them except for one thing! :D
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,623
    I've never understood how women don't know this - especially when you are younger, like in your 20s, men think of every respectibly cute/hot woman they meet in those terms at some point. doesn't mean men will act on it, but the thought always creeps into our mind at some point.
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    pjhawks wrote:
    I've never understood how women don't know this - especially when you are younger, like in your 20s, men think of every respectibly cute/hot woman they meet in those terms at some point. doesn't mean men will act on it, but the thought always creeps into our mind at some point.

    The *** T H O U G H T*** is Creeping into MY mind NOW!!! hehe... ;);););)
  • i_lov_it wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    I've never understood how women don't know this - especially when you are younger, like in your 20s, men think of every respectibly cute/hot woman they meet in those terms at some point. doesn't mean men will act on it, but the thought always creeps into our mind at some point.

    The *** T H O U G H T*** is Creeping into MY mind NOW!!! hehe... ;);););)

    Take care of that business, aint no shame to it. U like to feel good dont you? (i would say this line has a 90%)
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Well you Have to ~~CLEAR~~ out the " PIPES " Regularly you know!...keep it NICE and HEALTHY!!! :P :P :P
  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    If women always knew what men thought, they would never stop slapping us!..
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  • LauriLauri Posts: 748
    Well, given that I've had several good male friends in the course of my life, I'll take that to mean I'm not "the least bit hot." Thanks for the info.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,623
    Lauri wrote:
    Well, given that I've had several good male friends in the course of my life, I'll take that to mean I'm not "the least bit hot." Thanks for the info.

    i never said a guy couldn't be a good friend to a woman - i just said that at some point those good friends of yours have thought about sleeping with you - no doubt they have unless they are gay. i am good friends with some women and i have thought about them, it's just natural for men to do - remember thinking and acting on them are two whole seperate things.
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  • PJGARDENPJGARDEN Posts: 1,484
    locked wrote:
    If women always knew what men thought, they would never stop slapping us!..

    If you only knew what the women were thinking ;)
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pjhawks wrote:
    Lauri wrote:
    Well, given that I've had several good male friends in the course of my life, I'll take that to mean I'm not "the least bit hot." Thanks for the info.

    i never said a guy couldn't be a good friend to a woman - i just said that at some point those good friends of yours have thought about sleeping with you - no doubt they have unless they are gay. i am good friends with some women and i have thought about them, it's just natural for men to do - remember thinking and acting on them are two whole seperate things.

    i dunno, i have female friends i've never thought about that way and it's solely becos they're not attractive to me.
  • LauriLauri Posts: 748
    pjhawks wrote:
    Lauri wrote:
    Well, given that I've had several good male friends in the course of my life, I'll take that to mean I'm not "the least bit hot." Thanks for the info.

    i never said a guy couldn't be a good friend to a woman - i just said that at some point those good friends of yours have thought about sleeping with you - no doubt they have unless they are gay. i am good friends with some women and i have thought about them, it's just natural for men to do - remember thinking and acting on them are two whole seperate things.

    how is that any different than what women think though? When you meet a person of the gender you are attracted to, and you like them enough to be a friend or whatever, of course it crosses your mind at one point or another. But at some point, unless there's some unrequitted love thing going on, both parties decide that they should be friends rather than lovers and that's that unless something changes. I don't really see why this is a guys vs. girls thing or why it's even interesting.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Lauri wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    Lauri wrote:
    Well, given that I've had several good male friends in the course of my life, I'll take that to mean I'm not "the least bit hot." Thanks for the info.

    i never said a guy couldn't be a good friend to a woman - i just said that at some point those good friends of yours have thought about sleeping with you - no doubt they have unless they are gay. i am good friends with some women and i have thought about them, it's just natural for men to do - remember thinking and acting on them are two whole seperate things.

    how is that any different than what women think though? When you meet a person of the gender you are attracted to, and you like them enough to be a friend or whatever, of course it crosses your mind at one point or another. But at some point, unless there's some unrequitted love thing going on, both parties decide that they should be friends rather than lovers and that's that unless something changes. I don't really see why this is a guys vs. girls thing or why it's even interesting.

    i think the point is that guys don't necessarily decide they should be friends rather than lovers. they just accept that they can't be lovers at the moment and wait and see. or look at it after this decision is made... i'm willing to bet 99% of guys even after deciding to be just friends would jump at the chance for sex if it came up down the line. i bet not nearly as many women would do so and would instead pass for the sake of maintaining the friendship.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,623
    Lauri wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    Lauri wrote:
    Well, given that I've had several good male friends in the course of my life, I'll take that to mean I'm not "the least bit hot." Thanks for the info.

    i never said a guy couldn't be a good friend to a woman - i just said that at some point those good friends of yours have thought about sleeping with you - no doubt they have unless they are gay. i am good friends with some women and i have thought about them, it's just natural for men to do - remember thinking and acting on them are two whole seperate things.

    how is that any different than what women think though? When you meet a person of the gender you are attracted to, and you like them enough to be a friend or whatever, of course it crosses your mind at one point or another. But at some point, unless there's some unrequitted love thing going on, both parties decide that they should be friends rather than lovers and that's that unless something changes. I don't really see why this is a guys vs. girls thing or why it's even interesting.

    i never said it was different. you are going off in different directions with your posts here. on one hand you said you must not be 'hot' since you have guy friends and i was responding to that post - now you admit to the same thoughts that guys have when you meet new guys - no one made it guys vs. girls - the thread was about how guys think of all relatively attractive women as possible sex partners at some point (whether acted upon or not) - that's all. seems to me by your last post that you agree with this.
  • LauriLauri Posts: 748

    i think the point is that guys don't necessarily decide they should be friends rather than lovers. they just accept that they can't be lovers at the moment and wait and see. or look at it after this decision is made... i'm willing to bet 99% of guys even after deciding to be just friends would jump at the chance for sex if it came up down the line. i bet not nearly as many women would do so and would instead pass for the sake of maintaining the friendship.

    Well I don't know about every woman in the world, but I don't see anything wrong with seeing if something develops in the future. I do think that if I were good friends with someone, I wouldn't jump into bed with him for a one-time thing or something. But I don't think many of my male friends would necessarily do so either. There are people's feelings to consider, and I don't think men ignore them just because they're men.

    What I don't understand is, why, if these guys are feeling like this they don't make a move in some way. There are times when it's clear a person just isn't into you "that way" but if it's not totally clear, or there's some possibility of a migration, why not do something about it?
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