*** Brisbane Fanviews Here 11/25/09 ***

aus_suz

LongRoad wrote:

XClemX wrote:

Members turning on members isn't good as I have done here, but what was done on the tour was far worse shown by "senior members"!

Just because you're at the front this tour, doesnt mean your a senior member. You could have joined a few months ago and plonked your chair at the front gate for the day if you know the 'right' people. I dare say I've probably been in the 10c longer than 90% of those who formed a front row coalition at every show.

I don't know whats worse: that, or having the same people front row every night with seats. I guess with the latter at least you are being rewarded for your loyalty to the fan club, rather than forming a little elitist group that feels its their god given right to be front row every night and who are you to get in the way.
Note: I'm not singling anyone out in particular, but I know from experience that these attitudes do sadly exist.

What Ed may not realise (though Im sure he does) is that there are tons of people in the crowds who did all or multiple shows this tour, he just doesnt recognise us as we're further back.

Personally I had better things to do than sit in line for 12+ hours to get to the front (didnt have anyone to 'mind' me a spot either). I'd much prefer to actually enjoy the day than sit on concrete in searing heat. It is actually possible to enjoy a concert when you're not on the front rail and being recognised by Ed, believe it or not. :roll:

When I picked my tix up around 1:45 and got my ticket scanned and entered the pen the line wasnt too bad...it was organised...
Probably 30 mins after some guy stood up at the front was talking holding a beer carton flattened saying something... He was saying something about ppl names on the list that would be joining the line. Someone said there would be 40-60 joining the line again that had their names on the list.
Apparently the beer carton had names and numbers on it. PPl around where I was didnt know there was a list..
a repeat of Perth...Then more shade was organised the line was kinda not as straight but ppl were in similar postions. As time got closer ppl all stood not sure why but everyone did. And then for some reason everyone had to move to the right dunno why....but this messed the line up...Heaps of ppl seemed to join onto the side of the line that werent there b4...Ppl seemed to be joining right at the front of the line as well...
Not really sure what was going on but it was messy and very unorganised......

If the numbering system is going appear again for future Aus shows it needs to be organised in a fair way.
Not only to benefit certain ppl that are in the know...not pointing at or naming, but there are ppl that are in the lines that dont frequent the boards that didnt know there was a cardboard beer carton list. To be fair it has to be common knowledge that there is a list happening for ALL 10clubbers not just the ones that make the rules up. Really if its not on our final ticket confirmation from 10c imo it shouldnt happen. Thats just my view.
Numbers shouldve be handed out as we had our tickets scanned because that it where the line for 10c entry started. Names were on the list but I dont think these ppl had entered and had their tickets scanned yet..
How is that fair!.....I might be wrong......

One good thing about the lines for entry its been a good way to meet some really nice ppl...
To sit and wait and have a chat its been a great experience..
I hope I catch those ppl on the next tour again....




Inside it was great....
Weather perfect...,,
Great company around....
The Band were so happy again..
Totally on fire!...
Highlights for me
1."Off he Goes"
2.My daughter Phoebe who turned 12 on the day
celebrating her B/day at PJ show with her mum and dad..:)
3. Meeting Trudie

aus_suz

threefish10 wrote:

who's to say all these people with only blue bands were not in the fan club anyway?

i know i only had a blue band, and i've been a member for like 10 years. i know a few others there that are in the fan club but didn't get fan club tickets.

what the fuck is with all this judging of people with or with out yellow bands. i know people who are in the fan club who are complete fuck offs and are only looking out for themselves. and i also saw people with only blue bands being complete fuck offs and only looking out for themselves.

there is no written test or personality test to get into the ten club, it's not an elite club like Mensa, but the way some 10 clubbers act you would think it is. any one who has the internet and 25 dollars can join. does that fact make anyone better or worse then anyone else? no. sure there are great people and great fans of the band who are in the 10 club, but there are also just as many great people and great fans of this band who are not in the 10 club. it works both ways.

Well said Fishy......

davo81

who's to say all these people with only blue bands were not in the fan club anyway?

i know i only had a blue band, and i've been a member for like 10 years. i know a few others there that are in the fan club but didn't get fan club tickets.

what the fuck is with all this judging of people with or with out yellow bands. i know people who are in the fan club who are complete fuck offs and are only looking out for themselves. and i also saw people with only blue bands being complete fuck offs and only looking out for themselves.

there is no written test or personality test to get into the ten club, it's not an elite club like Mensa, but the way some 10 clubbers act you would think it is. any one who has the internet and 25 dollars can join. does that fact make anyone better or worse then anyone else? no. sure there are great people and great fans of the band who are in the 10 club, but there are also just as many great people and great fans of this band who are not in the 10 club. it works both ways.

'Nuff said fishy. Totally agree. Can i tell a quick story to illustrate my thoughts? Saw them in 95' and then in 98 i lined up earnestly from 7:30am and was rewarded by being crushed on the front barrier for 2 hours, kicked in the head by crowd surfer after crowd surfer, and practically snapped my own neck from rocking out at the front so hard. And guess what --- Loved every minute!! I would rather see GA a total free for all, and you hold your spot if you've got the nerve. People used to help each other out in the pit, now we're scared to brush elbows.

I only became a member this year because i heard of the pre sale and possible priority seating or standing arrangements. BUT I actually bought Ten in 1992, didn't want to spend my pocket $$ on the $5US at the time. (bad decision i know)
I was shocked at how much the (god i dont even want to say it) some of the "members" carry this arrogant, seniority, elitist ego's into a gig. Yes there was terrible organisation by staff at the final 30 mins, but that whole beer carton thing...seriously if you haven't scanned your ticket, you're NOT in the line. And once we got in, I could see all the people from GA thinking, "wow its not even packed lets just move closer" and people practically having a tanty coz someone casually stepped by them (this is after we all stood).

Someone made a comment about the crowd being a little subdued.... I have to agree, Ed was sweating out, going off, and sometimes I think he must wonder if the crowd are as pumped as we think we are. i want to show the band by jumping ALL night, not just for 3 seconds and being afraid to touch the guys back in front of me for fear he'll turn around and give me this dirty look like "why are you touching me?" We used to dance TOGETHER and that was called moshing...not slamming..just jumping as one (which occasionally leaves people off balance which means falling over now and then but, hell, it was always amongst friends)

Maybe we got old?

**sigh** Now that I've had a rant..

It was probably the equal best PJ show I've seen

Highlights RATS, INSIGNIFICANCE, WHY GO, IN HIDING, NOT FOR YOU..... ED giving his all, love his passion for uniting as humans for a better world, Mike loving the surf, Stone totally into it, Matt smashing away (still love Dave) and Booooooooooom getting a look in up the front for a change. they just all seem in the best mood.

I love them so much, everyone who wants to get a go up the front should get a turn, thats all I'm saying. hogging front spot at 4 shows and then getting peeved when some "blueband" (as some have put it) tries to push through is wrong

davo81

Gerrycan70 wrote:

Wow what a great show & for me it was the best out of Adel,Mel,Syd.

Photo wise I was so determined to be front row so lining up at 5am gives you great results...these are the first 77 pics & they (in my opinio) walk all over my Melbourne & Adelaide pics, if that's possible to imagine

I have over another 200 to go through and put up

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerry_70/s ... 754549257/

As previously metioned you're welcome to download & post on facebook etc so long as you credit me for the pictures i.e "Taken by Gerry". I've already sent 1 email off to someone who didn't credit me. If I find this happening on a regular basis I'll switch off the download function. But I think most of you will appreciate & respect me on a small request.

It was great to meet so many nice people over the 4 shows & a great idea to have a list of arrivals

Enjoy & welcome feedback.... start drooling haha!!!

Gerry

Absolute Champion Gerry. Some of the best photos Ive ever seen of the band... You should pat yourself on the back...
Oh and it was me and my girlfriend right behind you, thanks for being such a champ. It was her first show and i put her in front of me, and you were leaning on the barrier to steady your shot which gave her full uninterupted view all night...ha now she's in love with Mr McCready!!

Princess KJ

I have to say what surprised me most about the pit was exactly what's been said above- everyone just kind of stood there. I had been really concerned about the pit, but it was unwarranted. I was about the only one jumping around and constantly jammin in the section I was in.

And while all this not moving about was great for my view, I hope the band didn't think we weren't psyched. It would be such a let down if they thought they gave it their all, and that the crowd didn't care. Although I have a vague recollection of Ed saying the crowd was good- or maybe he was just being polite?!

LongRoad

Princess KJ wrote:

For those who wanted to see it, here's a bit of Ed's speech in Brisbane:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3U4XK-12Yo

Thanks for that

Hopefully someone else has the whole thing, there's at least another 5 minutes of talking after this

Princess KJ

LongRoad wrote:

Princess KJ wrote:

For those who wanted to see it, here's a bit of Ed's speech in Brisbane:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3U4XK-12Yo

Thanks for that

Hopefully someone else has the whole thing, there's at least another 5 minutes of talking after this

I am aware of that- I only took short clips as I didn't want my experience of the night to be focused on a camera.

MickeyB69

Gerry, you are my hero for the day, excellent photos! Thanks for sharing!

MN247676

threefish10 wrote:

who's to say all these people with only blue bands were not in the fan club anyway?

i know i only had a blue band, and i've been a member for like 10 years. i know a few others there that are in the fan club but didn't get fan club tickets.

what the fuck is with all this judging of people with or with out yellow bands. i know people who are in the fan club who are complete fuck offs and are only looking out for themselves. and i also saw people with only blue bands being complete fuck offs and only looking out for themselves.

there is no written test or personality test to get into the ten club, it's not an elite club like Mensa, but the way some 10 clubbers act you would think it is. any one who has the internet and 25 dollars can join. does that fact make anyone better or worse then anyone else? no. sure there are great people and great fans of the band who are in the 10 club, but there are also just as many great people and great fans of this band who are not in the 10 club. it works both ways.

Nobody is saying that. I went to all the Australian shows, and I am saying that I saw maybe ~5 ten club members / wrist band holders over the entire 5 shows push in and disrupt the otherwise pleasant lead up to the show when everyone was sitting down waiting. On the other hand, I saw at least ~10 people at each and every show with GA bands just walk their way up to wherever the hell they felt like and stand there. So it is not that I am saying everyone from GA are fuckwits, or everyone in 10c a legend, it's just that every time the idiots were pretty much purely GA ticket holders. If the 10c members had been doing it, I would be just as annoyed at them. It's not a 10c vs. GA thing, it's just a fact of the matter.

OK, if it's a big mosh pit with everyone going nuts there is no way to control who is where, but when people have been lining up for many many hours, they should be allowed to get a decent spot in the crowd. And when the entire front half of the mosh pit is just sitting down and chilling in the mosh pit waiting for Liam Finn to come on, it isn't the time to go "Hey look there is 10cm of space in front of that guy, I reckon I could stand there". It would have been nice if security were a bit more vigilante about it at the start.

E.K

Princess KJ wrote:

I have to say what surprised me most about the pit was exactly what's been said above- everyone just kind of stood there. I had been really concerned about the pit, but it was unwarranted. I was about the only one jumping around and constantly jammin in the section I was in.

And while all this not moving about was great for my view, I hope the band didn't think we weren't psyched. It would be such a let down if they thought they gave it their all, and that the crowd didn't care. Although I have a vague recollection of Ed saying the crowd was good- or maybe he was just being polite?!

We ended up on Stone's side just past the screen and were just behind the people on the rail and most people in my area were just standing and watching, apart from me going off and an American girl directly behind me. Ed came over and waved a few times during Evenflow and at the end of the night the little boy in front of me who was there with his grandparents (I think) got given a setlist.

threefish10

MN247676 wrote:

Nobody is saying that. I went to all the Australian shows, and I am saying that I saw maybe ~5 ten club members / wrist band holders over the entire 5 shows push in and disrupt the otherwise pleasant lead up to the show when everyone was sitting down waiting. On the other hand, I saw at least ~10 people at each and every show with GA bands just walk their way up to wherever the hell they felt like and stand there. So it is not that I am saying everyone from GA are fuckwits, or everyone in 10c a legend, it's just that every time the idiots were pretty much purely GA ticket holders. If the 10c members had been doing it, I would be just as annoyed at them. It's not a 10c vs. GA thing, it's just a fact of the matter.

yeah but what i'm saying how do you know those people with only blue bands aren't in the fan club. i'm in the fan club and only had a blue band. also people with blue bands may have been lining up just as long as the 10 clubbers, but because of the 15 minutes early entry they couldn't get the front. do they also deserve to miss out?

cultstatus

Being my first pj concert Ididn't know what to expect but I was assuming it was going to go off in the crowd... at some points I felt like the only one jumping and felt like a dick even though I was up the front? I would say everyone was pretty subdued, the people in front of me were shaking their heads at the guy in front of them who was jumping around, seriously guys this is a rock concert not a church service!!!

XClemX

I dont think we will see the same thing again...PJ security were aware of the problem...atleast the guy with the grey goatee..he seemed to be switched onto the whole thing...pretty good guy actually, had a few chats to him...

Eraserhead

Awesome show. Probably ties with Adelaide for the best one of the 4 I saw in Australia. If You Want Blood/Blood "experiment" was amazing!

Fingers crossed for shows in Europe next year. Thank you PJ - have an incredible Christmas!

Porchgirl

Thanks for the pics Gerry

They are an awesome set of pics and of course I was drooling

brassrazu

off he goes...
off we went!!!!!! my first pj experience; as long as we arent counting years of singing along in the car, office, shower, paddock.

just breathe... ahhhhhh amazing.

indifference;
rearrrrrrviewmirrrrrrrrrrorrrrrrrrrrrr;
not for youuuuuuu!


one of the best nights of my life; and ive had a cracker life! fixer field was fantastic; just the fix! weather was brilliant; to be able to be: hands upraised and open towards the sky, fresh cool air and those incredible sounds filling all around us. incredible.
I JUMPED ALLLLLLL NIGHT! was wondering how ed was going to give us more when i could barrreeely stand at yledbetter. but still managed to jump! rise and fall. rise and fall.
worth every jump!


thanks so much to everyone.
thanks for giving us everything guys; behind the head solo and everything!
and to my husband, brother and sil for completing the perfection.
xo

darkelf921

An absolutely amazing night. Spent a while protecting my partner and a few other fans from the crush from the idiotic non-10Cers. Once we got them out of the way, we really enjoyed ourselves. All three acts were totally amazing. The vibe coming from PJ was amazing. Without a doubt the most amazing show I've been too.

Really looking forward to the boot leg :-D

E.K

darkelf921 wrote:

An absolutely amazing night. Spent a while protecting my partner and a few other fans from the crush from the idiotic non-10Cers. Once we got them out of the way, we really enjoyed ourselves. All three acts were totally amazing. The vibe coming from PJ was amazing. Without a doubt the most amazing show I've been too.

Really looking forward to the boot leg :-D

Hopefully they play at a different venue next time and don't make us wait 3 years.

brassrazu

'hello beautiful big green island surrounded by blue'
!!!!!!!!
nice!

darkelf921

E.K wrote:

darkelf921 wrote:

An absolutely amazing night. Spent a while protecting my partner and a few other fans from the crush from the idiotic non-10Cers. Once we got them out of the way, we really enjoyed ourselves. All three acts were totally amazing. The vibe coming from PJ was amazing. Without a doubt the most amazing show I've been too.

Really looking forward to the boot leg :-D

Hopefully they play at a different venue next time and don't make us wait 3 years.

I agree. While (IMHO) Pearl Jam where much better this show than the previous two Brisbane shows, I think the venue was not great. However, I got to meet a lot of great people (10Cers and non). Once we were all settled we had a fantastic time. Even meeting people lining up for the buses was great.

Oh and apologies to all around for my bad singing as I was really belting it out :-)