That totally sucks that asshats like this will ruin someone's night these shows have no place for aggression at all ,you can have you're GA all you wan't i'm glad we have all seats at the venues here USA ,EVERYONE can enjoy the shows for what it is a musical experience not a shoving match dimmwits ......
I didn't know that all the U.S shows were seated. If this is the case, I can't see why management decided to do General Admission for the current Australian tour.
If anyone at PJ HQ reads this - For the next Australian tour, please revert back to seated floor plans.
The only shows that have GA here are the one's that have festival settings like LOLLA ,ACL,so forth, but any arena shows have reserved seating but still even for festivals here the crowds just wan't to enjoy the music and just rock on not to aggressive at all ...
do not fuck with me. or i will cry. for reals. and mr snuggleton will be kickin ass and takin names
I volunteer to be doompony's body guard. All you need to do is pay my airfare from Seattle and provide me with ticket to the show. BTW, I'm 6'4" and weigh about 240 and know kung foo. I'm a big mo'fo'. I will protect you and MR. SNUGGLTON from all the arseholes no problem.
if ANYONEoutside of the 10c Tries to push in front of me at all.. they'd better watch it.. I will be in no mood for Assholes who don't respect other people who just wanna have a Fricken awesome time and have been waiting for ages to get their tickets and get into the venue itself!!
If people wanna go to the shows just to start trouble..perhaps they are better off staying at home and letting everyone else ENJOY What they have been waiting MONTHS For!!!
That totally sucks that asshats like this will ruin someone's night these shows have no place for aggression at all ,you can have you're GA all you wan't i'm glad we have all seats at the venues here USA ,EVERYONE can enjoy the shows for what it is a musical experience not a shoving match dimmwits ......
I didn't know that all the U.S shows were seated. If this is the case, I can't see why management decided to do General Admission for the current Australian tour.
If anyone at PJ HQ reads this - For the next Australian tour, please revert back to seated floor plans.
Speak for yourself!
PJ HQ please ignore above statement. We love GA here in Aussie land. As if change it just because 0.0001% of the crowd are idiots
do not fuck with me. or i will cry. for reals. and mr snuggleton will be kickin ass and takin names
I volunteer to be doompony's body guard. All you need to do is pay my airfare from Seattle and provide me with ticket to the show. BTW, I'm 6'4" and weigh about 240 and know kung foo. I'm a big mo'fo'. I will protect you and MR. SNUGGLTON from all the arseholes no problem.
Doompony- after being sick and in bed for the past 3 days and spending way too much time on the porch I'd like to tell you that you're my favorite person in the world right now Your sketches truly cheered me up! I owe ya one
Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
Doompony- after being sick and in bed for the past 3 days and spending way too much time on the porch I'd like to tell you that you're my favorite person in the world right now Your sketches truly cheered me up! I owe ya one
why thank you
let's hope the band are as enchanted by the antics of mr snuggleton and his band of hairy men as the fans are
That totally sucks that asshats like this will ruin someone's night these shows have no place for aggression at all ,you can have you're GA all you wan't i'm glad we have all seats at the venues here USA ,EVERYONE can enjoy the shows for what it is a musical experience not a shoving match dimmwits ......
I didn't know that all the U.S shows were seated. If this is the case, I can't see why management decided to do General Admission for the current Australian tour.
If anyone at PJ HQ reads this - For the next Australian tour, please revert back to seated floor plans.
Speak for yourself!
PJ HQ please ignore above statement. We love GA here in Aussie land. As if change it just because 0.0001% of the crowd are idiots
I'm speaking for some of the 10C members and non-members who had to endure violence and aggression at the Perth show. The 0.0001% of idiots fucked it up for others - that isn't right.
Ah, the beauty of paying for reserved seats. No headaches. You can go for a drink, check out the merchandise table, hang out with friends anytime & anywhere. When finished, you can head back to your seat. The seat you payed for. A seat nobody can bother you in. Nobody can push & shove. A seat of zen. You can place your poster, your jacket etc.. seat back & relax.
GA sucks. I would pay double even triple the price on ticket's to have reserved seats then to be in today's GA standing show's. People today are not like the people of yesterday. Trust me. There are alot of crazy nuts out there that will try to ruin it for you. The 'woman & childen first' rule, doesn't apply during a rock show these day's. Last few show's I went to, I've seen & heard how fans would crash their way from the very back of the show & get their way to the very front. The 'excuse me' or 'i'm sorry' words when pushing & shoving, don't apply to many. Say over 75% of people today. It's pretty sad. Somebody mentioned earlier that people today are calmer then before. Are you out of your mind! With all the newest drugs, more smoking & drinking @ show's then ever before, the economy, the internet, the popularity .. things have been wilder then ever before.
Just remember who YOU are.
Pearl Jam, Mr Suggleton, Kenny Koala and 10C members don't do that shit.
Dickheads will always be DICKHEADS.
Don't let agro make you TENtative, NO WAY.
Show them force in numbers.
I didn't have many numbers around me, and yea I got pushed passed and shoved, but what I did have was being surrounded by people who were there for PJ.
TIP...Rock out Hard, Dickheads see this as an inpassable route because they might accidently get head butted to EVENFLOW or have Eyes poked out by hand signals. F@*king Pussies.
The problem nowadays(do I sound old) is there is no repect..I have been going to GA concerts since the late 80's 9everything from Death metal to punk and surfer tunes) and I think it is getting worse, as you get these hyped up on something teenagers(and older ones too) who couldn't give a shit about the band on the stage, they just want to cause havoc. I remember seeing the Oils in the early 90's at a Pub in Brissy and a fight broke out and the then Hon Peter Garrett stopped the concert and pointed out the offenders and waited for them to be escorted out, along with a speech about being thugs...took about 10 minutes, but it calmed everyone down and was well handled. That's why I don't go into the pits at the BDO or other festivals now..too many young men out to prove how tough they are and as a reasonbly big bloke, they like to try and test you. I am there to see musicians play music not to be fxcked with by some moron. If they try it in Brisbane , I will take the pricks out myself
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
Where I was standing everyone was great, friendly as..I had an awesome time!!
So no "moshing" or "crowd surfing". My MRS is worried about being smashed up and constantly having that swaying feeling..? was it like that? Or should i take one for the team and stand to the sides?
I was on that side - it really wasn't too bad and security DID sort it out fairly quickly....I think once Ed spoke up as well, things on our side quietened down a fair bit in terms of pushing, - honestly, it was a tiny portion of an otherwise awesome crowd...... DOn't stress too much....
if ANYONEoutside of the 10c Tries to push in front of me at all.. they'd better watch it.. I will be in no mood for Assholes who don't respect other people who just wanna have a Fricken awesome time and have been waiting for ages to get their tickets and get into the venue itself!!
If people wanna go to the shows just to start trouble..perhaps they are better off staying at home and letting everyone else ENJOY What they have been waiting MONTHS For!!!
Just remember though, there are some poor schmuck 10C members who didn't get 10C tickets there too.
If I knew then, would I know now?
* Perth Entertainment Centre - Mar 06, 1995
* Melbourne Park - Mar 02, 1998
* Brisbane QSAC- Nov 25, 2009
* EV Solo- QPAC- March 10, 12 and 13 2011
Regardless, people shouldn't be pushing past anyone to get to the front - 10C or not. Taking your spot in the crowd is the same as lining up in a queue. People can't just decide they deserve to be up the front if they get there later. Only excuse is if you are heading back to your original spot. You'll be able to tell if someone's legit or not. It's normally blokes just charging through and not caring that cause trouble. As long as we all stick together we'll be cool. From what I can see the Security is switched on to kicking dickheads out so we all just need to help them do that if someone is being an arsehole. Let's try and keep things as peaceful as possible, it's easy for something small to ruin a night.
if ANYONEoutside of the 10c Tries to push in front of me at all.. they'd better watch it.. I will be in no mood for Assholes who don't respect other people who just wanna have a Fricken awesome time and have been waiting for ages to get their tickets and get into the venue itself!!
If people wanna go to the shows just to start trouble..perhaps they are better off staying at home and letting everyone else ENJOY What they have been waiting MONTHS For!!!
Just remember though, there are some poor schmuck 10C members who didn't get 10C tickets there too.
GA is for rock concert..so easy...u dont have to surf ,kick anyone,,or be stupid..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I hear what you are saying but really you think seated floors at rock shows are the way forward?
Look at what seating at football did to the atmosphere of the English football stadium. It decimated it to a mere whisper. Of course making the game of football a corporate day out didnt help, any one wanting some evidence of this take a trip to Old Trafford - once upon a time a racous afternoon - and now almost libraryesque.
Rock shows are no different, the energy from GA shows feeds to the band, and the band thrive off it, have you heard the reports of how lame the crowds were in the states recently as compared to the Euro shows? There is no other reason than the GA status (and of course we are PJ starved mostly, and the Americans are given too mucyh PJ ), this is emphasised by the two DVds touring band and Imagine in Cornice
So in a nutshell the actions of a few morons should not stop the overwhelming enjoyment of the majority.
Seating kills rock shows, for eg try sitting at a U2 show....you'll be tempted to read a book at the same time
Everyone listen up. I'm 5 ft 2" girl and was 10 deep in the pit, with ONE person looking out for me, which was NOT NEEDED all night.
There was NOTHING scary about it.
Sure people pushed through, but they could have been the diehard fans that needed to move through the ones happy to hang back, and thats cool.
Those few arseholes that barged, I figure KARMA will get them, so take DELIGHT in that.
If I could handle it easily, your all going to be fine.
Go with PJ in your heart and may The Rock be with you.
***** Aussies are cool remember. TOURRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
Seating kills rock shows, for eg try sitting at a U2 show....you'll be tempted to read a book at the same time
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I hear what you are saying but really you think seated floors at rock shows are the way forward?
Look at what seating at football did to the atmosphere of the English football stadium. It decimated it to a mere whisper. Of course making the game of football a corporate day out didnt help, any one wanting some evidence of this take a trip to Old Trafford - once upon a time a racous afternoon - and now almost libraryesque.
Rock shows are no different, the energy from GA shows feeds to the band, and the band thrive off it, have you heard the reports of how lame the crowds were in the states recently as compared to the Euro shows? There is no other reason than the GA status (and of course we are PJ starved mostly, and the Americans are given too mucyh PJ ), this is emphasised by the two DVds touring band and Imagine in Cornice
So in a nutshell the actions of a few morons should not stop the overwhelming enjoyment of the majority.
Seating kills rock shows, for eg try sitting at a U2 show....you'll be tempted to read a book at the same time
Ummm... the crowds were not lame in the States recently! Yes, okay, Seattle wasn't great (I was there), but I was also at Molson (reserved), SF Outside Lands (GA) and all 4 Philly shows (reserved) and the atmosphere was out of this world at those shows! In fact, the atmosphere was better at the reserved shows over the GA Outside Lands (granted, Outside Lands is a festival).
Personally I prefer reserved seating (and I don't have a good number) because I like my own space and to not be jostled... GA can tend to really stress me out, but Outside Lands was a good experience this year and there was no aggression, but I still would rather reserved.
Besides, you football hooligans over there needed calming down!!! Different strokes.
Glaciers melting in the dead of night and the superstars sucked into the supermassive.
Thats cool, I just a heard a few boots where Eddie is havign a dig at the crowds....and i did read a shit load of comments on here about the crowds.
like I said before - for the perfect example check out the dvds i mention and the crowd interaction. It says it all really.
If you wanna go one step further check out the RATM dvd from their mexican shows. WOW. Thats crowd was moving alright, I tend to think the seating idea would have killed that show.
Seating is right for certain performances, theatre, solo shows, acoustic performances etc, but a rock and roll show or a punk show? not for me, but like you say different strokes. Even with GA, you can hang back and find plenty of space if you want it, its only really jostly and rammed right down the front.
I hate GA unless its a small venue-then I can dig it
call me old whatever
but if the crowd is larger than say 3000, GA is a nightmare
I dont want to have to stand in one spot for hours on end-not that I will be sitting down
but I enjoy my reserved "space"
and I dont buy the band feeds off the energy BS-perhaps they do, but it doesnt necessarily equal a better concert-there have been plenty of kick ass energetic shows that were reserved-it depends on the crowd and the security
at a GA show...how do you go the the bathroom? get a beer? where's your tailgate experience all day long? that's part of the show routine which you can't get with GA shows, you need to line up and stand around all day long, waiting, while with seated shows you can do as you please all day long, then walk to your seat minutes before the show....much better option IMO.
GA is for rock concert..so easy...u dont have to surf ,kick anyone,,or be stupid..
I'm sorry, but you are wrong there. GA is not just for rock concerts. Many (including I) get a better ROCK experience with reserved seats.
no problem.i rock my self no matter what..i just ,scream sing..have good time,,no matter where im ..i taste both and i see the difference...feeling like Berlin and O2 is hard to find ..and the people was in seated in Berlin like me was jealous of was was happening and i got seated only for a friend that want to be there so i stay with him,had 10c ticket but didnt go to quote.... .....and i got 1st row in Rotterdam with no wait any lotary..i wan in MSG..WAS AMAZING.i was section 2 1st row too.....but..i was in Berlin too ...that was UNBELIEVABLE...
u see Eddie..u can understand him..he was feeling it..when the dvd will be out..u all get what i mean..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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The only shows that have GA here are the one's that have festival settings like LOLLA ,ACL,so forth, but any arena shows have reserved seating but still even for festivals here the crowds just wan't to enjoy the music and just rock on not to aggressive at all ...
If people wanna go to the shows just to start trouble..perhaps they are better off staying at home and letting everyone else ENJOY What they have been waiting MONTHS For!!!
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PJ HQ please ignore above statement. We love GA here in Aussie land. As if change it just because 0.0001% of the crowd are idiots
my hero! someone pay for his airfare! stat!
why thank you
let's hope the band are as enchanted by the antics of mr snuggleton and his band of hairy men as the fans are
I'm speaking for some of the 10C members and non-members who had to endure violence and aggression at the Perth show. The 0.0001% of idiots fucked it up for others - that isn't right.
GA sucks. I would pay double even triple the price on ticket's to have reserved seats then to be in today's GA standing show's. People today are not like the people of yesterday. Trust me. There are alot of crazy nuts out there that will try to ruin it for you. The 'woman & childen first' rule, doesn't apply during a rock show these day's. Last few show's I went to, I've seen & heard how fans would crash their way from the very back of the show & get their way to the very front. The 'excuse me' or 'i'm sorry' words when pushing & shoving, don't apply to many. Say over 75% of people today. It's pretty sad. Somebody mentioned earlier that people today are calmer then before. Are you out of your mind! With all the newest drugs, more smoking & drinking @ show's then ever before, the economy, the internet, the popularity .. things have been wilder then ever before.
Like you somehow
The problem nowadays(do I sound old) is there is no repect..I have been going to GA concerts since the late 80's 9everything from Death metal to punk and surfer tunes) and I think it is getting worse, as you get these hyped up on something teenagers(and older ones too) who couldn't give a shit about the band on the stage, they just want to cause havoc. I remember seeing the Oils in the early 90's at a Pub in Brissy and a fight broke out and the then Hon Peter Garrett stopped the concert and pointed out the offenders and waited for them to be escorted out, along with a speech about being thugs...took about 10 minutes, but it calmed everyone down and was well handled. That's why I don't go into the pits at the BDO or other festivals now..too many young men out to prove how tough they are and as a reasonbly big bloke, they like to try and test you. I am there to see musicians play music not to be fxcked with by some moron. If they try it in Brisbane , I will take the pricks out myself
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
So no "moshing" or "crowd surfing". My MRS is worried about being smashed up and constantly having that swaying feeling..? was it like that? Or should i take one for the team and stand to the sides?
Just remember though, there are some poor schmuck 10C members who didn't get 10C tickets there too.
* Perth Entertainment Centre - Mar 06, 1995
* Melbourne Park - Mar 02, 1998
* Brisbane QSAC- Nov 25, 2009
* EV Solo- QPAC- March 10, 12 and 13 2011
Yeah I'm aware of that..
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Look at what seating at football did to the atmosphere of the English football stadium. It decimated it to a mere whisper. Of course making the game of football a corporate day out didnt help, any one wanting some evidence of this take a trip to Old Trafford - once upon a time a racous afternoon - and now almost libraryesque.
Rock shows are no different, the energy from GA shows feeds to the band, and the band thrive off it, have you heard the reports of how lame the crowds were in the states recently as compared to the Euro shows? There is no other reason than the GA status (and of course we are PJ starved mostly, and the Americans are given too mucyh PJ
So in a nutshell the actions of a few morons should not stop the overwhelming enjoyment of the majority.
Seating kills rock shows, for eg try sitting at a U2 show....you'll be tempted to read a book at the same time
There was NOTHING scary about it.
Sure people pushed through, but they could have been the diehard fans that needed to move through the ones happy to hang back, and thats cool.
Those few arseholes that barged, I figure KARMA will get them, so take DELIGHT in that.
If I could handle it easily, your all going to be fine.
Go with PJ in your heart and may The Rock be with you.
***** Aussies are cool remember.
TOURRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Ummm... the crowds were not lame in the States recently! Yes, okay, Seattle wasn't great (I was there), but I was also at Molson (reserved), SF Outside Lands (GA) and all 4 Philly shows (reserved) and the atmosphere was out of this world at those shows! In fact, the atmosphere was better at the reserved shows over the GA Outside Lands (granted, Outside Lands is a festival).
Personally I prefer reserved seating (and I don't have a good number) because I like my own space and to not be jostled... GA can tend to really stress me out, but Outside Lands was a good experience this year and there was no aggression, but I still would rather reserved.
Besides, you football hooligans over there needed calming down!!!
like I said before - for the perfect example check out the dvds i mention and the crowd interaction. It says it all really.
If you wanna go one step further check out the RATM dvd from their mexican shows. WOW. Thats crowd was moving alright, I tend to think the seating idea would have killed that show.
Seating is right for certain performances, theatre, solo shows, acoustic performances etc, but a rock and roll show or a punk show? not for me, but like you say different strokes. Even with GA, you can hang back and find plenty of space if you want it, its only really jostly and rammed right down the front.
call me old whatever
but if the crowd is larger than say 3000, GA is a nightmare
I dont want to have to stand in one spot for hours on end-not that I will be sitting down
but I enjoy my reserved "space"
and I dont buy the band feeds off the energy BS-perhaps they do, but it doesnt necessarily equal a better concert-there have been plenty of kick ass energetic shows that were reserved-it depends on the crowd and the security
MSG
PHILLY
BOSTON
Come and check out a show at one of these states ....
I'm sorry, but you are wrong there. GA is not just for rock concerts. Many (including I) get a better ROCK experience with reserved seats.
Exactly!
u see Eddie..u can understand him..he was feeling it..when the dvd will be out..u all get what i mean..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”