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new Kings of Leon DVD is excellent

StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
edited December 2009 in Other Music
just watched it once, but:

picture quality is amazing, cool camera angles, doesn't cut to a different shot every half second (like a certain band's Italy DVD...) reminds me a lot of the Last Waltz in terms of film quality...maybe also cuz Caleb is rockin a beard like 1970s Eric Clapton

songs sound GREAT....songs from the first album sound SOOOOO much better here....he actually SINGS the words in an understandable way instead of shrieking them like he does on the first album...its like the songs of the first album with his singing voice of the latest album

the band sounds amazing, like they have improved light years since the first album...Red Morning Light in particular kicks ass!!!

and it has Cold Desert on it....what more do you need to know?
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  • rhcpjam1029rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,981
    meh. kol have sold out for me. if i see this on tv i'll watch it; i don't think i'll buy it though.
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  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
    rhcpjam1029 wrote:
    meh. kol have sold out for me. if i see this on tv i'll watch it; i don't think i'll buy it though.
    "sellout" - a band who writes catchy songs on their fourth album....

    give me a break!!!
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  • SH17171SH17171 Posts: 425
    have to check it out great band seen them a few times at the big day out and supporting P.J. will look out for it
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,427
    I might get this. I got into KOL after seeing them open up for The Strokes in '03. Their last album was good, but my least fav. Because Of The Times is my fav album from them, then probably Youth & YOung Manhood.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    "California Waiting" could be released today and be a huge hit. The band has always had catchy rock songs.
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  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    i am one of their biggest supporters but their new album was too "catchy" for me and it was too soft sounding. i think Caleb's co writer was given more say this time around. and if California waiting was so "Catchy" then why did'nt it "Catch" on!! haha. if you think their sound and direction has'nt changed attend a live show these days. it is a bunch of 15 year olds and the only thing they know is Crap on Fire and Use Somebody!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jr19 wrote:
    i am one of their biggest supporters but their new album was too "catchy" for me and it was too soft sounding. i think Caleb's co writer was given more say this time around. and if California waiting was so "Catchy" then why did'nt it "Catch" on!! haha. if you think their sound and direction has'nt changed attend a live show these days. it is a bunch of 15 year olds and the only thing they know is Crap on Fire and Use Somebody!

    :roll:

    becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

    as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes ;)). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.
  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    soulsinging wrote:
    jr19 wrote:
    i am one of their biggest supporters but their new album was too "catchy" for me and it was too soft sounding. i think Caleb's co writer was given more say this time around. and if California waiting was so "Catchy" then why did'nt it "Catch" on!! haha. if you think their sound and direction has'nt changed attend a live show these days. it is a bunch of 15 year olds and the only thing they know is Crap on Fire and Use Somebody!

    :roll:

    becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

    as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes ;)). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.
    WOOOO buddy calm down. just the way i view it. i am not a frat boy either. but that halloween show you went to last year was before all the teenie kids really heard this album. this album was out for a solid six months or so.... ( dont quote me ) before it took off. so i could see what you are talking about. whats more is that i saw them in May 09 in Charleston and it was a bunch of young adults. And just a few months later in October of 09 (not last year) there were kids with their parents everywhere. and the show was horrible. maybe it was a life changing expierience for some but just not for me and if you have to get judgemental about someone you've never met before then that is your problem not mine. when i write that i dont like the kol new album it is just my point of view, not anger at the person or people who think that its great. i would love to hear your opinion but you dont have to try and make fun of me in the process!! :twisted: take care!!
  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    and how is it heartfelt when half the lyrics are'nt his!!!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jr19 wrote:
    WOOOO buddy calm down. just the way i view it. i am not a frat boy either. but that halloween show you went to last year was before all the teenie kids really heard this album. this album was out for a solid six months or so.... ( dont quote me ) before it took off. so i could see what you are talking about. whats more is that i saw them in May 09 in Charleston and it was a bunch of young adults. And just a few months later in October of 09 (not last year) there were kids with their parents everywhere. and the show was horrible. maybe it was a life changing expierience for some but just not for me and if you have to get judgemental about someone you've never met before then that is your problem not mine. when i write that i dont like the kol new album it is just my point of view, not anger at the person or people who think that its great. i would love to hear your opinion but you dont have to try and make fun of me in the process!! :twisted: take care!!

    fair enough. i may have blurred your post with the dude's above. i am just so tired of a bunch of brain dead grunge hypocrites whining about kol having sold out. it's one thing to not like the new direction and new material. it's another to hate the band becos you're old and their fans are young and you were hoping you'd get to keep caleb to yourself for a while. that hipster "any band that becomes famous was way cooler before than they are now" thing annoys me to no end!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jr19 wrote:
    and how is it heartfelt when half the lyrics are'nt his!!!

    i dunno... same way pearl jam is still heartfelt even when half the lyrics ed sings aren't his anymore? plus, as i recall, it was that super cool earlier material that had the most co-writing influences. their entire first album was co-written by their producer... yet it was ok then and now it's a problem?
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    thanks,,ill check it out
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  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    subject matter seemed better earlier than it does now. sounds as if they are trying to grab attention of kids. whatever it does'nt matter. im just a meat head cock rocking fucker!! right?
  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    you want to hear something hearfelt? listen to Mark Kozelek. this fucking man is awesome. he did a cover of Ac dc's Bad Boy Boogie and it will make you want to fucking cry.
  • Aaron 23Aaron 23 Allen, TX Posts: 543
    soulsinging wrote:

    :roll:

    becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

    as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes ;)). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.
    Hmm...you must go to a lot of Country, Miley Cyrus, or boy band shows if you think PJ is a sausage fest. :lol:

    Either way, I don't mind KoL and would still go see them if they came around. Not the biggest fan of their newest album, but don't think they're a "bad" group or anything...just not my cup as much as the one before it.
  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    If this is the DVD of the O2 London show I was there. They were awesome. There's a lot of utter bollocks being written about them but they can put on a hell of a show. As for the crowd being a load of 15 year olds....complete nonsense. A lot of the crowd near me will never see a 40th birthday again.

    Still think Caleb is a wanker though. And SOF is shite!
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    I've never seen a performance of these guys that actually proves they are a good band. I like alotta the tunes, they just come off as really half assed in the stuff I've seen and heard.
  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    are you people hard headed or something. that london show you went to was over a year ago. this OBTN album caught on hardcore the middle of this past summer. so you would not have seen any 15 year olds plus you were in london. completely different crowd and acceptence to kol overseas than in the states. they are great no doubt , but bottom line they were better when they were happy being successful in the Uk and not worrying about being atop the Us charts. the US in general has very poor taste in music. dont like what im saying then look at the top of the charts for sales here in america for general and rock. bands like staind or 3 doors down and the new creed album are the ones dominating the charts.
  • Wolf At BayWolf At Bay Posts: 236
    DewieCox wrote:
    I've never seen a performance of these guys that actually proves they are a good band. I like alotta the tunes, they just come off as really half assed in the stuff I've seen and heard.
    maybe this is because they got a record deal before half of them even knew how to play their instruments
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  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    Wolf At Bay wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    I've never seen a performance of these guys that actually proves they are a good band. I like alotta the tunes, they just come off as really half assed in the stuff I've seen and heard.
    maybe this is because they got a record deal before half of them even knew how to play their instruments
    hmm nicely put!!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Aaron 23 wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    :roll:

    becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

    as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes ;)). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.
    Hmm...you must go to a lot of Country, Miley Cyrus, or boy band shows if you think PJ is a sausage fest. :lol:

    you must not have ever been to a PJ show if you think it's not a sausage fest ;)
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jr19 wrote:
    are you people hard headed or something. that london show you went to was over a year ago. this OBTN album caught on hardcore the middle of this past summer. so you would not have seen any 15 year olds plus you were in london. completely different crowd and acceptence to kol overseas than in the states. they are great no doubt , but bottom line they were better when they were happy being successful in the Uk and not worrying about being atop the Us charts. the US in general has very poor taste in music. dont like what im saying then look at the top of the charts for sales here in america for general and rock. bands like staind or 3 doors down and the new creed album are the ones dominating the charts.

    i see. so the problem isn't the new album itself, they were fine when ti came out. it was only when it became a hit 6 months later and a bunch of teenagers started going to the shows that they became hate-worthy. got that right?

    know what you sound like? a hair metal fan whining about grunge circa 1992. hipsters are all that is wrong with the music world. go read pitchfork or something. they'll tell you how right you are that kol was good and now they've sold out, that u2 and coldplay are only for homos, and that the only cool music is that being made by people noone has ever heard of, like the nobody you mentioned earlier completely out of the blue to demonstrate how cool you are to know musicians the rest of us peasants never heard of.

    oh, and PJ was at the top of the US charts not long ago. oops.
  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    ledvedderman wrote:
    "California Waiting" could be released today and be a huge hit. The band has always had catchy rock songs.

    man I posted the same thing on my facebook last week.. CW is great.. So is Arizona and King of the Rodeo..

    I am a "johnny come lately" to KOL after seeing them on 9/11/09 and now I am hoooked.

    Siked for the DVD..

    screw all the KOL haters..

    Its just like PJ after "Vs" exploded...

    More tickets for ME next time they come around..

    If you don't like them, dont waste your time posting here...

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  • jr19jr19 Posts: 338
    i dont think anyone is "hating" on them. we are just trying to have a grown up discussion about them without being called a frat boy or cock rocker or whatever!!
  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    [ :roll:

    becos the record company they had then wasn't pushing them like they are now. and from what i understand, california waiting and kol WERE pretty huge overseas, they just had no backing here.

    as to the show, that is so tired. i saw them last halloween and there was not a single person there under 18. it was a packed house and everyone there knew all the words to all the songs. oh yeah, and they had GIRLS there (in slutty halloween costumes ;)). i'm not going to fault them for releasing an album with a lot of soul and great grooves that appeals to more people than a bunch of former frat boys trying to relive the glory days. maybe you don't like anything that's not cock rock and prefer a venue full of sausage (like any PJ show) to get your testosterone going, but some of us recognize that music doesn't have to be infused with steroids and is just fine when it's delicate, soulful, and heartfelt.[/quote]

    Post of the year SS!

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  • LiftedLifted Posts: 1,836
    jr19 wrote:
    the US in general has very poor taste in music. dont like what im saying then look at the top of the charts for sales here in america for general and rock. bands like staind or 3 doors down and the new creed album are the ones dominating the charts.

    the uk is worse as far as their popular music is concerned. at least the us has an exciting music scene going on right now. tons of great bands in the states that are in the prime of their careers. the uk has radiohead.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    edited November 2009
    jr19 wrote:
    i dont think anyone is "hating" on them. we are just trying to have a grown up discussion about them without being called a frat boy or cock rocker or whatever!!

    "we" are? last i checked, the OP was trying to have a grown up discussion abotu their dvd... without being told that only 15 year olds would ever like their new material by eople that admit they've never seen said dvd and are judging it solely based on how uncool they think the band is :roll:
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  • pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    thanks for posting this--I was interested in the DVD but couldn't make up my mind...you made it up for me and I'm looking forward to checking it out!

    I enjoy KOL--i'm entertained when I see them live, and I like that they had a different sound on the last album...I couldn't care less if they sold out or not...I like their music, and I'm the only one I care about!
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  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    I don't hate the new album. I don't love it as much as past ones though.

    As well I consider putting out an album in an attempt to reach a wider audience more of a sound business move than selling out. It is what they do for a living

    However....this is pretty weak:
    http://living.oneindia.in/insync/2009/k ... 51109.html

    the remix album with Timberlake, Pharrell, Ronson and Timbaland is also very weak

    Bottom line though. Who really gives a shit? it is what it is. I just hope the next album is cool to me

    Note: I haven't watched the DVD but i bet i know what's on there :P
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  • wozza77wozza77 Posts: 300
    I was there too. It was an excellent gig, imo the age group was older than most gigs I go to, probably a similiar age group to PJ crowds actually.

    Great voice, good setlist. On the downside he doesn't particularly own the stage and the encore was poor choice of songs
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