I agree that the sound difference is negligible, if there is any at all (I don't hear it). What I hate about 180 is that albums are usually spread between 2 discs, and that is a pain in the ass.
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I might be stupid but I don't know what "This" means.
I highlighted the last sentence in PJ_Soul's post. That's why I wrote "This."
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I might be stupid but I don't know what "This" means.
I highlighted the last sentence in PJ_Soul's post. That's why I wrote "This."
Got ya, and agreed! Though it seems there's not alot we can do about that. I just want to know why everything is on 180 gram these days but the older thinner records sound equally as good, even if it's got nothing to do with the sound quality then what is the reason...??
Hmmm, I know of the vinyl I'v picked up recently, I'm not sure on the difference in the sound quality between the 2 weights but the non-180g vinyl feel crappier, feel so thin & flimsy & just lightweight, cheaper etc.
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
Hmmm, I know of the vinyl I'v picked up recently, I'm not sure on the difference in the sound quality between the 2 weights but the non-180g vinyl feel crappier, feel so thin & flimsy & just lightweight, cheaper etc.
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
im quite curious what your collection is looking like jenny!?!
Hmmm, I know of the vinyl I'v picked up recently, I'm not sure on the difference in the sound quality between the 2 weights but the non-180g vinyl feel crappier, feel so thin & flimsy & just lightweight, cheaper etc.
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
im quite curious what your collection is looking like jenny!?!
Ha ha. No it's still tiny. Quite a lot of CDs but only like 50 or 60 vinyl, oh other than another 50 or so random ones. I think. Shit I dunno actually, might have to do a count one day.
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
Hmmm, I know of the vinyl I'v picked up recently, I'm not sure on the difference in the sound quality between the 2 weights but the non-180g vinyl feel crappier, feel so thin & flimsy & just lightweight, cheaper etc.
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
Thanks, yeah maybe check them out if you like the whole Joy Division or Interpol type sound...
Hmmm, I know of the vinyl I'v picked up recently, I'm not sure on the difference in the sound quality between the 2 weights but the non-180g vinyl feel crappier, feel so thin & flimsy & just lightweight, cheaper etc.
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
Thanks, yeah maybe check them out if you like the whole Joy Division or Interpol type sound...
Ha ha. I just watched 'Control' last night actually. Hmmm, ok, I'll add them to my spotify queue sometime.
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
Hmmm, I know of the vinyl I'v picked up recently, I'm not sure on the difference in the sound quality between the 2 weights but the non-180g vinyl feel crappier, feel so thin & flimsy & just lightweight, cheaper etc.
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
Thanks, yeah maybe check them out if you like the whole Joy Division or Interpol type sound...
Ha ha. I just watched 'Control' last night actually. Hmmm, ok, I'll ad them to my spotify queue sometime.
just listened to it, I couldn;t make out anything bad about it, is that likely? You aren't referring to Stipe's vocals right?
there was a pressing in 2007-8 or so and for whatever reason there is very noticeable warbling in nightswimming. my copy has it, and i didn't realize it until well after i had bought it. you must have gotten an earlier one, so good for you!
oh, are we posting our expedit setups now? i'll have to post that when i get home. i have a 4x4 set sitting atop a 4x2 set (this lower unit not having any vinyl on it since it is withing reach of my cats' claws).
had no idea they sold legs for these. i might have to get myself some.
Got ya, and agreed! Though it seems there's not alot we can do about that. I just want to know why everything is on 180 gram these days but the older thinner records sound equally as good, even if it's got nothing to do with the sound quality then what is the reason...??
Mixing and mastering. First off you have the loudness wars where everybody's cranking everything to the hilt, killing all dynamics and adding harshness and that stuff really gets highlighted on vinyl. Then, you have a real shortage of people that are knowledgeable about working with vinyl. Start checking who does the vinyl mastering for your newer vinyl releases and you'll see that there's a name or two that pops up pretty often.
There's every combination of new/old, 180g and up/lightweight vinyl, and good/bad sound in my collection. Maybe that's why I never made the connection that 180g was supposed to be superior sound. The only advantage of 180g vinyl that I can see is resistance to warping.
I try pretty hard to find accurate reviews of about everything I buy unless it's one of a few must own bands(Pearl Jam) or bands that have a good reputation for producing great sounding vinyl(Neil Young, Wilco).
Anyone around here know much about this band? I really like this record, such a strong debut...
Cracking band. 3 albums out so far, currently working on their 4th. Album no 3 is quite a departure from the 1st 2 records.....
PS, great purchase. Still need to buy it on vinyl!
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2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
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I try pretty hard to find accurate reviews of about everything I buy unless it's one of a few must own bands(Pearl Jam) or bands that have a good reputation for producing great sounding vinyl(Neil Young, Wilco).
it really is too bad that pearl jam can't also be lumped into the second category you mentioned rather than just the first.
Got ya, and agreed! Though it seems there's not alot we can do about that. I just want to know why everything is on 180 gram these days but the older thinner records sound equally as good, even if it's got nothing to do with the sound quality then what is the reason...??
Mixing and mastering. First off you have the loudness wars where everybody's cranking everything to the hilt, killing all dynamics and adding harshness and that stuff really gets highlighted on vinyl. Then, you have a real shortage of people that are knowledgeable about working with vinyl. Start checking who does the vinyl mastering for your newer vinyl releases and you'll see that there's a name or two that pops up pretty often.
There's every combination of new/old, 180g and up/lightweight vinyl, and good/bad sound in my collection. Maybe that's why I never made the connection that 180g was supposed to be superior sound. The only advantage of 180g vinyl that I can see is resistance to warping.
I try pretty hard to find accurate reviews of about everything I buy unless it's one of a few must own bands(Pearl Jam) or bands that have a good reputation for producing great sounding vinyl(Neil Young, Wilco).
Great call on Wilco. Their vinyl sounds amazing. Also, I got the Analogue Productions pressing of Counting Crows debut disc, sounds ridiculously good. I also have found that my Glen Hansard vinyl sounds terrible. Anyone else find this?
I try pretty hard to find accurate reviews of about everything I buy unless it's one of a few must own bands(Pearl Jam) or bands that have a good reputation for producing great sounding vinyl(Neil Young, Wilco).
it really is too bad that pearl jam can't also be lumped into the second category you mentioned rather than just the first.
Yeah, I think they have a track here or there that pops, and everything through Riot Act is solid, but I can't imagine how good No Code-Riot Act could sound with a great mastering job. Would take them to another level.
Got ya, and agreed! Though it seems there's not alot we can do about that. I just want to know why everything is on 180 gram these days but the older thinner records sound equally as good, even if it's got nothing to do with the sound quality then what is the reason...??
Mixing and mastering. First off you have the loudness wars where everybody's cranking everything to the hilt, killing all dynamics and adding harshness and that stuff really gets highlighted on vinyl. Then, you have a real shortage of people that are knowledgeable about working with vinyl. Start checking who does the vinyl mastering for your newer vinyl releases and you'll see that there's a name or two that pops up pretty often.
There's every combination of new/old, 180g and up/lightweight vinyl, and good/bad sound in my collection. Maybe that's why I never made the connection that 180g was supposed to be superior sound. The only advantage of 180g vinyl that I can see is resistance to warping.
I try pretty hard to find accurate reviews of about everything I buy unless it's one of a few must own bands(Pearl Jam) or bands that have a good reputation for producing great sounding vinyl(Neil Young, Wilco).
Great call on Wilco. Their vinyl sounds amazing. Also, I got the Analogue Productions pressing of Counting Crows debut disc, sounds ridiculously good. I also have found that my Glen Hansard vinyl sounds terrible. Anyone else find this?
Thanks for the info, that clears things up quite well. The 'I just picked up on vinyl' thread is really great, it's so good for seeing what's out there and seeing what many other's manage to get their hands on. But, I'm thinking about starting another thread, unrelated to this one for anyone that's interested in posting records they have in their collection's that really SOUND fucking amazing on vinyl, and/or records that others should try and avoid for poor sound quality or terrible production or whatever. Anyone interested in something like that? I for one would be...
Thanks for the info, that clears things up quite well. The 'I just picked up on vinyl' thread is really great, it's so good for seeing what's out there and seeing what many other's manage to get their hands on. But, I'm thinking about starting another thread, unrelated to this one for anyone that's interested in posting records they have in their collection's that really SOUND fucking amazing on vinyl, and/or records that others should try and avoid for poor sound quality or terrible production or whatever. Anyone interested in something like that? I for one would be...
I'd be in for that. Plenty to discuss with such varying degrees of sound quality among alot of newer releases.
Just queued Editors The Back Room on Spotify & it's great!! His voice reminds me of Nick Cave a bit. Spotify so great for checking out new stuff.
You need to get the 2nd album "An End Has A Start"
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2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
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2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes 2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
ok, had a serious crisis here, I had my vinyl on the top 2 shelves of a book shelf and the 2nd one crashed and they all came tumbling down, bending lots of corners, fuck me. I took all the vinyl off the top shelf, so it looks like the vinyl on a book shelf is being axed. I will have to make a trip to ikea soon and get this, cause now I have my vinyl on in piles on the floor, while I try to bend back the ones most bent, what a piss off, grrrrrrrr
Oh man that fucking sucks dude, I feel your pain. Hope the incident didn't bend any of the vinyl inside the sleeves!
vinyl is fine, just corners of the covers that got bent, so cosmetic damage, bent and smoothed out what I could, oh well, could have been worse, should have foresaw that.
made it to Ikea today and bought the shelving unit. Will set it up shortly, probably not today, one night this week or Friday night
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Thanks for the info, that clears things up quite well. The 'I just picked up on vinyl' thread is really great, it's so good for seeing what's out there and seeing what many other's manage to get their hands on. But, I'm thinking about starting another thread, unrelated to this one for anyone that's interested in posting records they have in their collection's that really SOUND fucking amazing on vinyl, and/or records that others should try and avoid for poor sound quality or terrible production or whatever. Anyone interested in something like that? I for one would be...
I'd be in for that. Plenty to discuss with such varying degrees of sound quality among alot of newer releases.
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ok, had a serious crisis here, I had my vinyl on the top 2 shelves of a book shelf and the 2nd one crashed and they all came tumbling down, bending lots of corners, fuck me. I took all the vinyl off the top shelf, so it looks like the vinyl on a book shelf is being axed. I will have to make a trip to ikea soon and get this, cause now I have my vinyl on in piles on the floor, while I try to bend back the ones most bent, what a piss off, grrrrrrrr
Oh man that fucking sucks dude, I feel your pain. Hope the incident didn't bend any of the vinyl inside the sleeves!
vinyl is fine, just corners of the covers that got bent, so cosmetic damage, bent and smoothed out what I could, oh well, could have been worse, should have foresaw that.
made it to Ikea today and bought the shelving unit. Will set it up shortly, probably not today, one night this week or Friday night
I picked up one of those shelf units a few weeks ago and it looks great behind my bar. Vinyl and booze together.
Alright, alright, alright!
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2000: Manchester
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes 2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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I might be stupid but I don't know what "This" means.
I highlighted the last sentence in PJ_Soul's post. That's why I wrote "This."
Got ya, and agreed! Though it seems there's not alot we can do about that. I just want to know why everything is on 180 gram these days but the older thinner records sound equally as good, even if it's got nothing to do with the sound quality then what is the reason...??
Also, reesdog I don't know the artist you posted about up above. Never heard of them at all. Cool if you've discovered a good new thing.
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
im quite curious what your collection is looking like jenny!?!
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
mine only started out by accident and now just keeps growing at an alarming rate :shock:
Thanks, yeah maybe check them out if you like the whole Joy Division or Interpol type sound...
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
there was a pressing in 2007-8 or so and for whatever reason there is very noticeable warbling in nightswimming. my copy has it, and i didn't realize it until well after i had bought it. you must have gotten an earlier one, so good for you!
had no idea they sold legs for these. i might have to get myself some.
Mixing and mastering. First off you have the loudness wars where everybody's cranking everything to the hilt, killing all dynamics and adding harshness and that stuff really gets highlighted on vinyl. Then, you have a real shortage of people that are knowledgeable about working with vinyl. Start checking who does the vinyl mastering for your newer vinyl releases and you'll see that there's a name or two that pops up pretty often.
There's every combination of new/old, 180g and up/lightweight vinyl, and good/bad sound in my collection. Maybe that's why I never made the connection that 180g was supposed to be superior sound. The only advantage of 180g vinyl that I can see is resistance to warping.
I try pretty hard to find accurate reviews of about everything I buy unless it's one of a few must own bands(Pearl Jam) or bands that have a good reputation for producing great sounding vinyl(Neil Young, Wilco).
Cracking band. 3 albums out so far, currently working on their 4th. Album no 3 is quite a departure from the 1st 2 records.....
PS, great purchase. Still need to buy it on vinyl!
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
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it really is too bad that pearl jam can't also be lumped into the second category you mentioned rather than just the first.
Great call on Wilco. Their vinyl sounds amazing. Also, I got the Analogue Productions pressing of Counting Crows debut disc, sounds ridiculously good. I also have found that my Glen Hansard vinyl sounds terrible. Anyone else find this?
Yeah, I think they have a track here or there that pops, and everything through Riot Act is solid, but I can't imagine how good No Code-Riot Act could sound with a great mastering job. Would take them to another level.
I'd be in for that. Plenty to discuss with such varying degrees of sound quality among alot of newer releases.
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
You need to get the 2nd album "An End Has A Start"
2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
vinyl is fine, just corners of the covers that got bent, so cosmetic damage, bent and smoothed out what I could, oh well, could have been worse, should have foresaw that.
made it to Ikea today and bought the shelving unit. Will set it up shortly, probably not today, one night this week or Friday night
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
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Nice one, I'll try get something underway soon...
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10-16-2014 Detroit
I picked up one of those shelf units a few weeks ago and it looks great behind my bar. Vinyl and booze together.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
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2006: Dublin; Leeds; Arnhem
2007: London
2009: Manchester
2012: Manchester I & II : EV Manchester : Soundgarden Shepherds Bush
2013: Brad Manchester : Soundgarden Manchester
2014: Amsterdam I & II; Berlin; Leeds; Milton Keynes
2018: Berlin; London II; Boston II
Bootleg Reviews: http://pjbootlegreviews.blogspot.com/