Wouldn't consider a 4.00 ERA to be bad at all, considering he's a rookie.
Even with the Yankees' offense, I'd still say he's having a pretty great first season.
Of course I'd rather have Lee right now, but it's a little ridiculous to compare them. Down the road who knows how good Nova will be. We still have to let him progress.
just pointing out that it's ridiculous to compare him to cliff lee.
guy looks pretty good for a rookie though....of course the phils have rookie who is 10-1 but with a 2.85 era.
Isn't league avg at 3.92? He's at 3.96
here is where he ranks:
52nd in era...
113th in strikeouts...
65th in whip...
51st in baa...
75th in k/9
lees is top 10 in all those except one.
sorry to hammer home a point. but you just cannot compare this guy to cliff lee. it is not even close.
52nd in era...
113th in strikeouts...
65th in whip...
51st in baa...
75th in k/9
lees is top 10 in all those except one.
sorry to hammer home a point. but you just cannot compare this guy to cliff lee. it is not even close.
Those are all good regular season numbers for a team that scores a million runs. I'd like one of you Yanks fans to tell me that you prefer Nova to Lee as a playoff starter.
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Don't know why you both won't let this drop, it's pretty obvious that Lee's the better pitcher. Can we move on?
...sorry. you must not spend a lot of time in the phillies thread. nothing ever gets dropped in there.
Here in the Yankees thread, things get dropped.
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52nd in era...
113th in strikeouts...
65th in whip...
51st in baa...
75th in k/9
lees is top 10 in all those except one.
sorry to hammer home a point. but you just cannot compare this guy to cliff lee. it is not even close.
Those are all good regular season numbers for a team that scores a million runs. I'd like one of you Yanks fans to tell me that you prefer Nova to Lee as a playoff starter.
We'll find out how Nova is in the playoffs next month.
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Don't know why you both won't let this drop, it's pretty obvious that Lee's the better pitcher. Can we move on?
It was only about 3 posts really. This season is too long - need the playoffs to start.
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Congrats to Montero on his first big league home run.
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Not too far behind for best record in the league...imagine that
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The last Yankee to hit his first two home runs in the same game was Shane Spencer on August 7, 1998 in the second game of a doubleheader against the Kansas City Royals in a game I had free field level seats for at the Old Stadium.
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The last Yankee to hit his first two home runs in the same game was Shane Spencer on August 7, 1998 in the second game of a doubleheader against the Kansas City Royals in a game I had free field level seats for at the Old Stadium.
That was a crazy two months when he came up.
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The last Yankee to hit his first two home runs in the same game was Shane Spencer on August 7, 1998 in the second game of a doubleheader against the Kansas City Royals in a game I had free field level seats for at the Old Stadium.
That was a crazy two months when he came up.
I remember that game, he was 5-for-5 in a 14-2 win. It was a week when the Yankees went from 80 to 90 wins by blowing everybody out.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
The last Yankee to hit his first two home runs in the same game was Shane Spencer on August 7, 1998 in the second game of a doubleheader against the Kansas City Royals in a game I had free field level seats for at the Old Stadium.
That was a crazy two months when he came up.
I remember that game, he was 5-for-5 in a 14-2 win. It was a week when the Yankees went from 80 to 90 wins by blowing everybody out.
That was a magical team. It seemed like every time they won, they blew someone out, even if it was close. Just the way they played made it seem like that.
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That was a magical team. It seemed like every time they won, they blew someone out, even if it was close. Just the way they played made it seem like that.
i love reading stories about that season. they dropped their first 4 or 6 games of that season in embarrassing fashion?
cone stepped up in the locker room after the losing streak and tore everyone a new asshole. from that point forward they put together the best record baseball as ever seen (at the time of course).
That was a magical team. It seemed like every time they won, they blew someone out, even if it was close. Just the way they played made it seem like that.
i love reading stories about that season. they dropped their first 4 or 6 games of that season in embarrassing fashion?
cone stepped up in the locker room after the losing streak and tore everyone a new asshole. from that point forward they put together the best record baseball as ever seen (at the time of course).
Yeah, they played like the worst team you can possibly see play those first games.
It still is the best record in baseball that'll probably never be broken, 125-50.
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It still is the best record in baseball that'll probably never be broken, 125-50.
if you include post season. but i think seattle beat them out for the best regular season record sometime in the early 2000's?
Yeah, 2001, but Seattle tied the Cubs' record for most regular season wins.
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1906 Cubs were 116-36. But lost WS to the hitless wonders - the White Sox. Imagine that.
As great as that 1998 team was, you have to admit the 2000 team probably ranks in the bottom 5 of all-time World Champions. I was at the game when they "clinched" the division (i.e. by having the crappy Red Sox lose while they were getting blown out in Camden Yards). As strong as the AL East is these days, it was shitty that year. But, they still won it, so I gotta give 'em credit.
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52nd in era...
113th in strikeouts...
65th in whip...
51st in baa...
75th in k/9
lees is top 10 in all those except one.
sorry to hammer home a point. but you just cannot compare this guy to cliff lee. it is not even close.
Those are all good regular season numbers for a team that scores a million runs. I'd like one of you Yanks fans to tell me that you prefer Nova to Lee as a playoff starter.
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Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; WF Center 9/7/24; WF Center 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
...sorry. you must not spend a lot of time in the phillies thread. nothing ever gets dropped in there.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
It was only about 3 posts really. This season is too long - need the playoffs to start.
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All of u wanna bees
Ny forever....
Hehe
yeah! ny forever! woo!
Haha..wedding over ...on the way to the beach.......vacation is on
Sweeeeet...hole u r enjoying yourself
I don't think people are comparing. not saying he's light out. But we'll take it for a rookie.
someone definitely made a comparison yesterday.
i'd take it for a rookie too.
DJ with a big game...has been awesome...and the big man close to 20 again..awesome
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cano another slam!!! wow
great pitching day
2.5. Up. Nice
Not too far behind for best record in the league...imagine that
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
I remember that game, he was 5-for-5 in a 14-2 win. It was a week when the Yankees went from 80 to 90 wins by blowing everybody out.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
i love reading stories about that season. they dropped their first 4 or 6 games of that season in embarrassing fashion?
cone stepped up in the locker room after the losing streak and tore everyone a new asshole. from that point forward they put together the best record baseball as ever seen (at the time of course).
It still is the best record in baseball that'll probably never be broken, 125-50.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
if you include post season. but i think seattle beat them out for the best regular season record sometime in the early 2000's?
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
As great as that 1998 team was, you have to admit the 2000 team probably ranks in the bottom 5 of all-time World Champions. I was at the game when they "clinched" the division (i.e. by having the crappy Red Sox lose while they were getting blown out in Camden Yards). As strong as the AL East is these days, it was shitty that year. But, they still won it, so I gotta give 'em credit.
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