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    CateetoCateeto Posts: 377
    anywhere....i dont give a rats ass where we go.....
    Haha okay then... Just let me know.
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    Cateeto wrote:
    Haha okay then... Just let me know.
    right on.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    speedy... cateeto... use a phone! :p
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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    CateetoCateeto Posts: 377
    sgossard3 wrote:
    speedy... cateeto... use a phone! :p
    Eh, this is cheaper :p
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    Foxy MopFoxy Mop Posts: 2,813
    LOL you freaks. I left a message w/Jeannette, hopefully she'll get back sooner than later.

    As for the... tour bus?? LOL that's hilarious. You can tentatively reserve me a spot should I decide to throw sanity to the wind.. Driving w/PJ fans is a definite... experience :D Kate knows!
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    Foxy Mop wrote:
    LOL you freaks. I left a message w/Jeannette, hopefully she'll get back sooner than later.

    As for the... tour bus?? LOL that's hilarious. You can tentatively reserve me a spot should I decide to throw sanity to the wind.. Driving w/PJ fans is a definite... experience :D Kate knows!
    give me a call either way.....

    in 2 hours i am meeting up with my friend marty....and we are starting the night off at the turtle races....

    and im serious....

    cuz its not friday unless you have a cold one and watch turtles race....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    CateetoCateeto Posts: 377
    Foxy Mop wrote:

    As for the... tour bus?? LOL that's hilarious. You can tentatively reserve me a spot should I decide to throw sanity to the wind.. Driving w/PJ fans is a definite... experience :D Kate knows!
    Laura, I think that the hotel room filled wall to wall with PJ fans is more of the experience :p
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    QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,626
    cuz its not friday unless you have a cold one and watch turtles race....

    or the tractor pull.
    Nice shirt.
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    normnorm I'm always home. I'm uncool. Posts: 31,147
    or the tractor pull.

    or turtles pulling tractors while racing....:p
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    BONNAROO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    im ready for a fucking road trip.........
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,314
    BONNAROO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    im ready for a fucking road trip.........

    ok let me know what we have to get done for this to happen ...:D
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    taking one of these bad boys to Bonnaroo this summer.....

    http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/mccready_/?action=view&current=rv_sunset_logo.jpg

    watch out!!!!!!!


    i would donate my ITW vinyl for a ceremonial burning...
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    BONNAROO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    im ready for a fucking road trip.........
    i've been done ready for one haha when is the lineup going to be confirmed?
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    i've been done ready for one haha when is the lineup going to be confirmed?
    probably within the next week......

    hows your hand???
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    probably within the next week......

    hows your hand???
    sweet! i'm gonna do my taxes this weekend and see what refund i get :D

    it's doing better, thanks for asking :) i'm back at work finally, feels good to get back into the normal routine of things!
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    Foxy MopFoxy Mop Posts: 2,813
    ...on the inforoo board:


    Gene's FAQ On Bringing a RV to Bonnaroo & VIP Info
    « Thread Started on Aug 27, 2007, 8:42pm »
    This is a list of “Things to Know” about bringing a RV to Bonnaroo and "Dry Camping".
    I put this list together after being on the Inforoo message board for two years and trying to help out people who are headed to Bonnaroo with a RV / Camper.
    We have attended two Bonnaroo festivals, in 06&07. Both times we have stayed in the VIP area. I also attend up four NASCAR events each year where we "Dry Camp"
    Here are some things you will need to know, some of my personal observations are in ().

    ******************************
    RV INFORMATION
    ****************************


    Batteries:
    -Used for powering 12 volt appliances like lights, water pump, electronics on refrigerator and water heater.
    -Batteries do not run air conditioners.

    Generators:
    -You will need a generator if you are bringing a camper and want to use air conditioning.
    -Most motorized (Class A&C) motorhomes have built in Generators.
    -When you run the generator it charges the batteries that run the 12 volt appliances as described above.
    -Quiet portable generators are quite expensive (you can purchase them for around $2,000 – $3,000 for a Honda or Yamaha).
    -Watch out for “contractor type” generators, they can be quite loud. You do not want this.
    -Look to see where you can rent a generator instead of purchasing one.
    -Bring a cable or chain and lock to secure the generator to the RV from theft.

    Wattage:
    -If you are going to use a portable generator for a camper (travel trailer, fifth wheel or pop-up) and you want to use air conditioning you will need a 2800 watt generator at a minimum.
    -Do not run the air conditioner and coffee maker, hair dryer, electric water heater with a generator less then 4,500 watts. If you must use one or the other appliances turn off the air conditioner.
    -(We have a 3000 watt generator, Honda EU3000is)

    Fuel Consumption of Generators:
    -Check to see how much fuel you will need to bring. If you are renting a RV make sure the fuel tank is close to full before entering the festival. Most built-in generators will shut off when the campers fuel tanks get below 1/4 full.
    -(From my experience you fill be fine for the four days if the fuel tank is close to full when you enter the festival)
    -(Our Honda’s EU3000is uses less then .5 gallon per hour at full load. We bring 15 gallons and have only ever used 10 gallons)

    Fuel Consumption of RV's / Trucks towing trailers:
    -If you are renting a class C motorhome (most common) figure on 9-11 miles per gallon

    Air Conditioning:
    -Air conditioning in the camper will make your experience much more pleasurable.
    -Most campers have air conditioning with the exception of some pop-ups. If you are renting a pop-up check with the rental company to make sure it has air conditioning.
    -(We only run the air conditioner and generator when we are at the camper. We never run the air conditioning at night, it has cooled down enough after sunset.
    We will start it up before we go to bed for a while to cool down the camper, then shut it off and then open the windows for the night. No doubt that you fire it back up by 7-8 AM to keep the camper cool.)
    -Note: Air conditions do not run on the campers batteries or propane. You will need a generator.

    Fresh Water
    -Most campers hold between 30 and 80 gallons.
    -A 12 volt electric on-board water pump draws water out of the fresh water holding tank and distributes water to faucets.
    -Fresh water filling has been $50 per fill. This fee does not matter if you need 10 or 100 gallons.
    -Another option would be 7 gallon aqua containers and a radio flyer type wagon to transport the water from the wash stations. Then poor or siphon the water in the fresh water tank.
    -(We have a 55 gallon poly drum that we fill up at the wash stations. Then I pump water into my fresh water tank when needed).

    Gray Water (Showering and Sink Drain):
    -Most campers hold between 30 and 60 gallons.
    -Plan to take “Navy Showers” Rinse, stop water, soap, and rinse. Most campers have a valve on the shower head to easily turn on and off he water for this purpose.
    -The gray water tank will fill very quickly if you take long showers (take navy showers) and wash dishes (use paper products).

    Black Water (Toilet Waste):
    -Most campers hold between 20 and 40 gallons.
    -Pump out service is available for $50, this is to empty the black and gray tanks.
    -If you can hold out over the weekend without the need to be pumped out look for dump stations on RV Dumps
    -(Our camper holds 22 gallons. It will take four days and four adults to fill it).

    Propane:
    -Refrigerators, cook tops, furnaces, ovens and water heaters run off of propane.
    -Make sure tanks are filled before the weekend.

    Placement of camper:
    -Again make sure the camper is level as possible.
    -Watch when you park. Look to see where other campers exhaust pipes are. You will not be happy breathing in generator exhaust all weekend. Not to mention possible carbon monoxide poisoning.
    -Try to position the right (passenger, awning) side or the camper to the north or west. The main stage is south, so opposite of that. This will give you a little shade during the day.

    RV Links:
    Dumpstation Locator
    RV Information
    Class C motorhomes 101 DVD
    RV-Camping.org
    RV Education


    Other notes for RV's:
    -Make sure the camper is level. Not only will this make your sleeping more comfortable but it is necessary for the refrigerator to operate properly. Bring some 2X8 planks to level the camper with.
    -Most rental campers do not have awnings, check with the rental company and make sure to bring your own shade.
    -If you do rent a camper make sure everything works before you leave the rental office. Refrigerator, water heater, water pump, air conditioner, generator, awning, also make sure the propane tanks full. Check to see if they have Roadside assistance numbers. See if they have a reference manual just incase you forget how to operate the appliances.

    ********************************
    VIP Area Q&A
    ***********************


    Cost for VIP:
    2007:
    $1,125.75 for two VIP Tickets
    75.00 RV Pass
    12.00 Shipping Fee
    65.00 Service Fee
    $1,274.40 Total

    Food:
    They start serving food on Thursday at 6ish PM (Free drinks on Thursday).
    Friday - Sunday is Noon until 10PM.
    No Breakfast or Coffee is served.
    Some vegetarian selection, but not much.

    Bathrooms & Showers:
    Showers are open 24 hours from the time you get there on Thursday.
    Bathrooms: some are air conditioned, some port-o-potties.

    Area Lighting:
    The VIP area has construction type lighting on during the night. There is also light infiltrating from other areas that surround the VIP area such as the main stage and roadways. A small pocket sized flashlight LED type will be handy for reading maps and artist lineups.

    WiFi:
    The service is very spotty and slow. I had most luck before 9 AM.

    Maps:
    Click here for 2006 Site Map
    Click here for 2006 Centeroo Map
    Click here for 2007 Site Map
    Click here for 2007 Centeroo Map
    Click here for Area Road Map



    Other notes:
    Dust:
    Bring a disposable dust masks (a 3M type from Home Depot), the dust in 07 was incredible.

    Drinking Water:
    Get yourself a Camelbak to drink water out of. We used four cases (24-16 oz bottles) for four of us in 07. This was along with Vitamin water, Gatorade and soda.
    Next year I will bring a case and two gallons of water per person. I will use the gallon water to fill the Camelbaks.

    Shade:
    We have a 10'X10' Caravan Caravan Canopies shade canopy. This is along with the awning on our trailer. If you are bringing a tent you might want to consider two, one for shading the tent and one to sit under.

    If you need to contact me via email genemartel@verizon.net
    I will add more in the future when I think about more information.
    Peace

    http://bonnaroo.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=logistics&action=display&thread=1188265361

    A picture of the RV camp:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/21000175@N02/2098129899/in/set-72157603420156687/
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    brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    taking one of these bad boys to Bonnaroo this summer.....

    http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a305/mccready_/?action=view&current=rv_sunset_logo.jpg

    watch out!!!!!!!


    ypi dont have to do that if you dare ride with us for free mr speedy


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
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    Foxy Mop wrote:
    ...on the inforoo board:


    Gene's FAQ On Bringing a RV to Bonnaroo & VIP Info
    « Thread Started on Aug 27, 2007, 8:42pm »
    This is a list of “Things to Know” about bringing a RV to Bonnaroo and "Dry Camping".
    I put this list together after being on the Inforoo message board for two years and trying to help out people who are headed to Bonnaroo with a RV / Camper.
    We have attended two Bonnaroo festivals, in 06&07. Both times we have stayed in the VIP area. I also attend up four NASCAR events each year where we "Dry Camp"
    Here are some things you will need to know, some of my personal observations are in ().

    ******************************
    RV INFORMATION
    ****************************


    Batteries:
    -Used for powering 12 volt appliances like lights, water pump, electronics on refrigerator and water heater.
    -Batteries do not run air conditioners.

    Generators:
    -You will need a generator if you are bringing a camper and want to use air conditioning.
    -Most motorized (Class A&C) motorhomes have built in Generators.
    -When you run the generator it charges the batteries that run the 12 volt appliances as described above.
    -Quiet portable generators are quite expensive (you can purchase them for around $2,000 – $3,000 for a Honda or Yamaha).
    -Watch out for “contractor type” generators, they can be quite loud. You do not want this.
    -Look to see where you can rent a generator instead of purchasing one.
    -Bring a cable or chain and lock to secure the generator to the RV from theft.

    Wattage:
    -If you are going to use a portable generator for a camper (travel trailer, fifth wheel or pop-up) and you want to use air conditioning you will need a 2800 watt generator at a minimum.
    -Do not run the air conditioner and coffee maker, hair dryer, electric water heater with a generator less then 4,500 watts. If you must use one or the other appliances turn off the air conditioner.
    -(We have a 3000 watt generator, Honda EU3000is)

    Fuel Consumption of Generators:
    -Check to see how much fuel you will need to bring. If you are renting a RV make sure the fuel tank is close to full before entering the festival. Most built-in generators will shut off when the campers fuel tanks get below 1/4 full.
    -(From my experience you fill be fine for the four days if the fuel tank is close to full when you enter the festival)
    -(Our Honda’s EU3000is uses less then .5 gallon per hour at full load. We bring 15 gallons and have only ever used 10 gallons)

    Fuel Consumption of RV's / Trucks towing trailers:
    -If you are renting a class C motorhome (most common) figure on 9-11 miles per gallon

    Air Conditioning:
    -Air conditioning in the camper will make your experience much more pleasurable.
    -Most campers have air conditioning with the exception of some pop-ups. If you are renting a pop-up check with the rental company to make sure it has air conditioning.
    -(We only run the air conditioner and generator when we are at the camper. We never run the air conditioning at night, it has cooled down enough after sunset.
    We will start it up before we go to bed for a while to cool down the camper, then shut it off and then open the windows for the night. No doubt that you fire it back up by 7-8 AM to keep the camper cool.)
    -Note: Air conditions do not run on the campers batteries or propane. You will need a generator.

    Fresh Water
    -Most campers hold between 30 and 80 gallons.
    -A 12 volt electric on-board water pump draws water out of the fresh water holding tank and distributes water to faucets.
    -Fresh water filling has been $50 per fill. This fee does not matter if you need 10 or 100 gallons.
    -Another option would be 7 gallon aqua containers and a radio flyer type wagon to transport the water from the wash stations. Then poor or siphon the water in the fresh water tank.
    -(We have a 55 gallon poly drum that we fill up at the wash stations. Then I pump water into my fresh water tank when needed).

    Gray Water (Showering and Sink Drain):
    -Most campers hold between 30 and 60 gallons.
    -Plan to take “Navy Showers” Rinse, stop water, soap, and rinse. Most campers have a valve on the shower head to easily turn on and off he water for this purpose.
    -The gray water tank will fill very quickly if you take long showers (take navy showers) and wash dishes (use paper products).

    Black Water (Toilet Waste):
    -Most campers hold between 20 and 40 gallons.
    -Pump out service is available for $50, this is to empty the black and gray tanks.
    -If you can hold out over the weekend without the need to be pumped out look for dump stations on RV Dumps
    -(Our camper holds 22 gallons. It will take four days and four adults to fill it).

    Propane:
    -Refrigerators, cook tops, furnaces, ovens and water heaters run off of propane.
    -Make sure tanks are filled before the weekend.

    Placement of camper:
    -Again make sure the camper is level as possible.
    -Watch when you park. Look to see where other campers exhaust pipes are. You will not be happy breathing in generator exhaust all weekend. Not to mention possible carbon monoxide poisoning.
    -Try to position the right (passenger, awning) side or the camper to the north or west. The main stage is south, so opposite of that. This will give you a little shade during the day.

    RV Links:
    Dumpstation Locator
    RV Information
    Class C motorhomes 101 DVD
    RV-Camping.org
    RV Education


    Other notes for RV's:
    -Make sure the camper is level. Not only will this make your sleeping more comfortable but it is necessary for the refrigerator to operate properly. Bring some 2X8 planks to level the camper with.
    -Most rental campers do not have awnings, check with the rental company and make sure to bring your own shade.
    -If you do rent a camper make sure everything works before you leave the rental office. Refrigerator, water heater, water pump, air conditioner, generator, awning, also make sure the propane tanks full. Check to see if they have Roadside assistance numbers. See if they have a reference manual just incase you forget how to operate the appliances.

    ********************************
    VIP Area Q&A
    ***********************


    Cost for VIP:
    2007:
    $1,125.75 for two VIP Tickets
    75.00 RV Pass
    12.00 Shipping Fee
    65.00 Service Fee
    $1,274.40 Total

    Food:
    They start serving food on Thursday at 6ish PM (Free drinks on Thursday).
    Friday - Sunday is Noon until 10PM.
    No Breakfast or Coffee is served.
    Some vegetarian selection, but not much.

    Bathrooms & Showers:
    Showers are open 24 hours from the time you get there on Thursday.
    Bathrooms: some are air conditioned, some port-o-potties.

    Area Lighting:
    The VIP area has construction type lighting on during the night. There is also light infiltrating from other areas that surround the VIP area such as the main stage and roadways. A small pocket sized flashlight LED type will be handy for reading maps and artist lineups.

    WiFi:
    The service is very spotty and slow. I had most luck before 9 AM.

    Maps:
    Click here for 2006 Site Map
    Click here for 2006 Centeroo Map
    Click here for 2007 Site Map
    Click here for 2007 Centeroo Map
    Click here for Area Road Map



    Other notes:
    Dust:
    Bring a disposable dust masks (a 3M type from Home Depot), the dust in 07 was incredible.

    Drinking Water:
    Get yourself a Camelbak to drink water out of. We used four cases (24-16 oz bottles) for four of us in 07. This was along with Vitamin water, Gatorade and soda.
    Next year I will bring a case and two gallons of water per person. I will use the gallon water to fill the Camelbaks.

    Shade:
    We have a 10'X10' Caravan Caravan Canopies shade canopy. This is along with the awning on our trailer. If you are bringing a tent you might want to consider two, one for shading the tent and one to sit under.

    If you need to contact me via email genemartel@verizon.net
    I will add more in the future when I think about more information.
    Peace

    http://bonnaroo.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=logistics&action=display&thread=1188265361


    And don't forget the ice either. LOL :D



    That and a boatload of money won't hurt either.
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    so speedy... should we start loading up the speedymobile now? i need to know by next week this idea is fo sho a go befo any mo $$ is spent on tix
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    sgossard3 wrote:
    so speedy... should we start loading up the speedymobile now? i need to know by next week this idea is fo sho a go befo any mo $$ is spent on tix
    i am going to sit on this for a day or 2......

    when i found out that r.v. parking doesnt have electrical or water hookup i kinda freaked.....

    im too fucking old to go live like a fucking animal for 4 days......hehehehe

    ill know for sure in a couple of days.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    Foxy MopFoxy Mop Posts: 2,813
    i am going to sit on this for a day or 2......

    when i found out that r.v. parking doesnt have electrical or water hookup i kinda freaked.....

    im too fucking old to go live like a fucking animal for 4 days......hehehehe

    ill know for sure in a couple of days.....

    You'd need a generator, and they do have water service I think? $50 a fill or something like that.

    I wish the Roo site was up so we can get some concrete info
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    Foxy Mop wrote:
    You'd need a generator, and they do have water service I think? $50 a fill or something like that.

    I wish the Roo site was up so we can get some concrete info
    yeah....im familiar with r.v.'s....

    $250 for a ticket....
    $1000 or so to rent r.v. for 4 days......
    whatever the fuck fuel is going to cost me.......
    whatever the fuck parking is going to cost me.........
    whatever the fuck 4 days of food and booze is going to cost me............

    im gonna sit on this for a couple days.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    yeah....im familiar with r.v.'s....

    $250 for a ticket....
    $1000 or so to rent r.v. for 4 days......
    whatever the fuck fuel is going to cost me.......
    whatever the fuck parking is going to cost me.........
    whatever the fuck 4 days of food and booze is going to cost me............

    im gonna sit on this for a couple days.....
    dont blame ya... are these tickets even gonna sell out really quick?? im sure PJ cant announce further southern shows until after these tix go on sale cause it would hurt the roo sales, but im holding out for something not too far like st. louis or indy

    most of those roo bands will be at lolla anyway so theres no point in me driving all that way and spending all that money if i dont have to and am not gonna enjoy the camping aspect
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    yeah....im familiar with r.v.'s....

    $250 for a ticket....
    $1000 or so to rent r.v. for 4 days......
    whatever the fuck fuel is going to cost me.......
    whatever the fuck parking is going to cost me.........
    whatever the fuck 4 days of food and booze is going to cost me............

    im gonna sit on this for a couple days.....


    I'm not going I think... I had decided I was, but I'm kinda turned off by the line up and Metallica really fucking sucks... I think Ima save all that money and wait for them to play somewhere else... I'm probably still going to give it some thought but I think I'm leaning more towards not going...
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
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    I'm not going I think... I had decided I was, but I'm kinda turned off by the line up and Metallica really fucking sucks... I think Ima save all that money and wait for them to play somewhere else... I'm probably still going to give it some thought but I think I'm leaning more towards not going...
    me too....

    thats just a ton of fucking money......

    kathy and i can go to cancun for a week on what that 4-day trip to hippyville would cost me......
    Take me piece by piece.....
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    me too....

    thats just a ton of fucking money......

    kathy and i can go to cancun for a week on what that 4-day trip to hippyville would cost me......


    Yeah and I wont even be flying I would driving 13 hours there and back, I think I was just disappointed with the rest of the bands, I was hoping Blind Melon would be on the bill (they might later but I cant buy tickets and hope for the best).. I'm thinking for the same money just to see Pearl Jam I can probably travel to any other state they play in .... I would have loved to see you though ;)
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,084
    I'm also not crazy about the flight options from New York to Nashville. It looks like the only planes that go there are the small commuter types. Plus at least with Lollapalooza being in a big city, I could come and go as I please and do other things in Chicago like go to a Cubs game.
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    I'm also not crazy about the flight options from New York to Nashville. It looks like the only planes that go there are the small commuter types. Plus at least with Lollapalooza being in a big city, I could come and go as I please and do other things in Chicago like go to a Cubs game.
    i was going to do this for sure.....

    until i started reading bonnaroos website.....and the "rules and regulations"

    now im not to sure what i am going to do.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    Foxy MopFoxy Mop Posts: 2,813
    i was going to do this for sure.....

    until i started reading bonnaroos website.....and the "rules and regulations"

    now im not to sure what i am going to do.....

    At this point I'm thinking the only way I could handle this is VIP + RV, and that's major bank...

    You don't have any RV connections in your Speedyroladex? ;)
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    brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    i was going to do this for sure.....

    until i started reading bonnaroos website.....and the "rules and regulations"

    now im not to sure what i am going to do.....


    save your money and buy several bottles of jack...

    wait for another announcement after bonnaroo for a u.s. tour....

    if it never comes at least you have all that jack.


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
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