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  • jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    deadendp said:

    That is so incredibly sad that Irish babies are only fostered. :frowning:

    I suppose it's another way in which we're still quite conservative. The state is very hung up on the whole notion of only having one mother and it being the one who pops you out. We've even had cases of complications with surrogacy as a result
  • FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    The part of me that rubbed off from my cousin wants to point out to you all that we made it to the Taylor Swift 1989 album page! Hahahah
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    FrankieG said:

    The part of me that rubbed off from my cousin wants to point out to you all that we made it to the Taylor Swift 1989 album page! Hahahah

    Can you clarify?
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  • FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    ldent42 said:

    FrankieG said:

    The part of me that rubbed off from my cousin wants to point out to you all that we made it to the Taylor Swift 1989 album page! Hahahah

    Can you clarify?
    Taylor Swift's latest album is title "1989" and this thread is now on page 1989.
    The first part was just an attempt at clarifying that I knew that because of my female cousin, and not because I am a Swift fan.
    ;)
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  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    FrankieG said:

    ldent42 said:

    FrankieG said:

    The part of me that rubbed off from my cousin wants to point out to you all that we made it to the Taylor Swift 1989 album page! Hahahah

    Can you clarify?
    Taylor Swift's latest album is title "1989" and this thread is now on page 1989.
    The first part was just an attempt at clarifying that I knew that because of my female cousin, and not because I am a Swift fan.
    ;)
    Oh God page number. I thought the bickering on the first page of the porch got picked up by Taylor swift fans and made fun of on done page relating to that album. Never would've thought to check the page number lol
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    samjam said:

    RKCNDY said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    samjam said:

    I knew this was coming sooner or later...just had my first friend (that isn't mormon or an orthodox jew) announce her engagement and pregnancy (a double whammy)! Weird I'm about that age now that I'll be seeing more and more of this. Maybe just strange to me as I am in NO place ready for, or even want, those things. Happy for her nonetheless, but it took me by surprise! As The Boss says, "Oooohhhh, growin upppp"

    I'm frequently getting reminders of how little I've accomplished in my life as all the people I was in school with get married and have babies! I'm also 4 years worse off than you haha
    Just keep in mind that marriage and having kids is not necessarily the end all and be all of life, despite what much of society likes to dictate. I am 39 and neither married nor a mother, and I don't at all feel that I have accomplished little in life. If getting married and having kids is something you want to do, great, but don't drink the Kool-Aid. It is not a requirement in life, as some would have you believe.
    I don't necessarily believe in marriage but I do want kids
    You can always adopt...there are plenty of single women that adopt children because they have that 'nurture' feeling and want kids, but don't want to marry one. :lol:
    Opposite for me, I'd like to be married someday, but HELL NO on the kids (unless they are furry, have 4 legs, meow, are actually cats). And I'm not changing my mind, thank you very much, society! Not in any rush for anything, just my friend's announcement was another marker of growing up. Comes at you fast! Still hard to believe I can be classified as an 'adult.' :lol:
    Yeah, that feeling really never goes away, lol.
    I'm totally with you on the kid front. Not for me! It's horrifying enough watching my friends go through it, hahaha. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    deadendp said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    RKCNDY said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    samjam said:

    I knew this was coming sooner or later...just had my first friend (that isn't mormon or an orthodox jew) announce her engagement and pregnancy (a double whammy)! Weird I'm about that age now that I'll be seeing more and more of this. Maybe just strange to me as I am in NO place ready for, or even want, those things. Happy for her nonetheless, but it took me by surprise! As The Boss says, "Oooohhhh, growin upppp"

    I'm frequently getting reminders of how little I've accomplished in my life as all the people I was in school with get married and have babies! I'm also 4 years worse off than you haha
    Just keep in mind that marriage and having kids is not necessarily the end all and be all of life, despite what much of society likes to dictate. I am 39 and neither married nor a mother, and I don't at all feel that I have accomplished little in life. If getting married and having kids is something you want to do, great, but don't drink the Kool-Aid. It is not a requirement in life, as some would have you believe.
    I don't necessarily believe in marriage but I do want kids
    You can always adopt...there are plenty of single women that adopt children because they have that 'nurture' feeling and want kids, but don't want to marry one. :lol:
    She could also actually get pregnant and not have a husband, which is actually cheaper and easier than adoption. Plus, I don't think it's that hard for a single person to adopt unless they have a lot of money.

    PJ_Soul said:

    RKCNDY said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    samjam said:

    I knew this was coming sooner or later...just had my first friend (that isn't mormon or an orthodox jew) announce her engagement and pregnancy (a double whammy)! Weird I'm about that age now that I'll be seeing more and more of this. Maybe just strange to me as I am in NO place ready for, or even want, those things. Happy for her nonetheless, but it took me by surprise! As The Boss says, "Oooohhhh, growin upppp"

    I'm frequently getting reminders of how little I've accomplished in my life as all the people I was in school with get married and have babies! I'm also 4 years worse off than you haha
    Just keep in mind that marriage and having kids is not necessarily the end all and be all of life, despite what much of society likes to dictate. I am 39 and neither married nor a mother, and I don't at all feel that I have accomplished little in life. If getting married and having kids is something you want to do, great, but don't drink the Kool-Aid. It is not a requirement in life, as some would have you believe.
    I don't necessarily believe in marriage but I do want kids
    You can always adopt...there are plenty of single women that adopt children because they have that 'nurture' feeling and want kids, but don't want to marry one. :lol:
    She could also actually get pregnant and not have a husband, which is actually cheaper and easier than adoption. Plus, I don't think it's that hard for a single person to adopt unless they have a lot of money.
    Yeah I see turkey basters in my future :p

    Adopting is not only difficult but you also have to go and procure a child from a foreign country, which I wouldn't be too keen on!

    This might come out as heartless, but I'm guessing that you ladies have not actually adopted since you said that you don't have kids.

    Allow me to dispel some rumors. How is it that I can do this? Well, we adopted our daughter.
    1. Getting pregnant is not necessarily cheaper and easier. There are those of us who suffered loss and almost died. Tally up doctors visits and hospital bills for a normal, healthy pregnancy. I would bet that they cost a lot more than what we paid-- gas money to drive 20 minutes away for classes and parking. All told, that cost was probably well less than $75. Yes, a baby for $75 or less. She was a day and a half old when she came to be with us.
    2. You don't need to go to a foreign country. Whether you live in the states, Canada, Ireland or elsewhere, there are babies and children who need loving homes. I'm not saying that there aren't foreign aid needs. I had "friends" go head to head with us on adoption. It was some game for them to do it better and bigger than us. (It wasn't a competition for us, but it was for them.) They adopted internationally. That international adoption took them to Haiti to "pick out" a child, then because of political unrest, they couldn't bring her home. (Despite having told her so.) They ended up flying to Ethiopia for a week and a half to bring Lewi home. Tally up all of the costs of their flights back and forth to Haiti and to Ethiopia, passports, accommodations, processing . . . and in the states, just because you adopted out of the country you have to have that child in your home for 6 months and go through an official adoption here. Oh yes, don't forget lawyer fees.

    We had none of that. We adopted from the county south of us. K was cocaine positive at birth and born to a homeless, drug addicted prostitute. Because she is termed as a "special needs child" with the state, they covered all of the costs of adoption. Taking the classes through the county was free-- something that my friend paid thousands for just to have complete over the course of two weekends.

    How is K? She is wonderful and beautiful and smart and SHE IS OURS. Why do I say that? Because a lot of people think that drug babies are throw aways. They aren't. She is a great student, earning the President's Education Award last year-- the highest honor you can receive in elementary. (With a letter from President Obama.) She played harp all year last year. She is studying violin this year. She loves soccer, swimming and archery.

    Just a lil education from a mama who has been there.

    Single parent adoption occurs every day. There are wee ones out there who need loving homes and they live all over the world. We just need to grab them up, even if one by one, to hug on them and give them the life that they deserve.

    Stepping down from my soapbox. Sorry. A bit passionate about adoption.
    I was not advocating against adoption FYI. I was just responding to an alternative to adoption, because it seemed like the suggestion was that unless you get married, you aren't going to give birth and should therefore adopt. And of course, medical difficulties in getting pregnant or having a baby are an exception as far as "easy" goes (not that ANY of it is actually easy).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    my heart goes out to the lives lost today...horrible accident.

    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    that's always sad rckny

    loving this nice weather its great to go to bed in just light clothes lol
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Is there no TNF? Mr. RK isn't home yet...
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    deadendp said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    RKCNDY said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    samjam said:

    I knew this was coming sooner or later...just had my first friend (that isn't mormon or an orthodox jew) announce her engagement and pregnancy (a double whammy)! Weird I'm about that age now that I'll be seeing more and more of this. Maybe just strange to me as I am in NO place ready for, or even want, those things. Happy for her nonetheless, but it took me by surprise! As The Boss says, "Oooohhhh, growin upppp"

    I'm frequently getting reminders of how little I've accomplished in my life as all the people I was in school with get married and have babies! I'm also 4 years worse off than you haha
    Just keep in mind that marriage and having kids is not necessarily the end all and be all of life, despite what much of society likes to dictate. I am 39 and neither married nor a mother, and I don't at all feel that I have accomplished little in life. If getting married and having kids is something you want to do, great, but don't drink the Kool-Aid. It is not a requirement in life, as some would have you believe.
    I don't necessarily believe in marriage but I do want kids
    You can always adopt...there are plenty of single women that adopt children because they have that 'nurture' feeling and want kids, but don't want to marry one. :lol:
    She could also actually get pregnant and not have a husband, which is actually cheaper and easier than adoption. Plus, I don't think it's that hard for a single person to adopt unless they have a lot of money.

    PJ_Soul said:

    RKCNDY said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    samjam said:

    I knew this was coming sooner or later...just had my first friend (that isn't mormon or an orthodox jew) announce her engagement and pregnancy (a double whammy)! Weird I'm about that age now that I'll be seeing more and more of this. Maybe just strange to me as I am in NO place ready for, or even want, those things. Happy for her nonetheless, but it took me by surprise! As The Boss says, "Oooohhhh, growin upppp"

    I'm frequently getting reminders of how little I've accomplished in my life as all the people I was in school with get married and have babies! I'm also 4 years worse off than you haha
    Just keep in mind that marriage and having kids is not necessarily the end all and be all of life, despite what much of society likes to dictate. I am 39 and neither married nor a mother, and I don't at all feel that I have accomplished little in life. If getting married and having kids is something you want to do, great, but don't drink the Kool-Aid. It is not a requirement in life, as some would have you believe.
    I don't necessarily believe in marriage but I do want kids
    You can always adopt...there are plenty of single women that adopt children because they have that 'nurture' feeling and want kids, but don't want to marry one. :lol:
    She could also actually get pregnant and not have a husband, which is actually cheaper and easier than adoption. Plus, I don't think it's that hard for a single person to adopt unless they have a lot of money.
    Yeah I see turkey basters in my future :p

    Adopting is not only difficult but you also have to go and procure a child from a foreign country, which I wouldn't be too keen on!

    This might come out as heartless, but I'm guessing that you ladies have not actually adopted since you said that you don't have kids.

    Allow me to dispel some rumors. How is it that I can do this? Well, we adopted our daughter.
    1. Getting pregnant is not necessarily cheaper and easier. There are those of us who suffered loss and almost died. Tally up doctors visits and hospital bills for a normal, healthy pregnancy. I would bet that they cost a lot more than what we paid-- gas money to drive 20 minutes away for classes and parking. All told, that cost was probably well less than $75. Yes, a baby for $75 or less. She was a day and a half old when she came to be with us.
    2. You don't need to go to a foreign country. Whether you live in the states, Canada, Ireland or elsewhere, there are babies and children who need loving homes. I'm not saying that there aren't foreign aid needs. I had "friends" go head to head with us on adoption. It was some game for them to do it better and bigger than us. (It wasn't a competition for us, but it was for them.) They adopted internationally. That international adoption took them to Haiti to "pick out" a child, then because of political unrest, they couldn't bring her home. (Despite having told her so.) They ended up flying to Ethiopia for a week and a half to bring Lewi home. Tally up all of the costs of their flights back and forth to Haiti and to Ethiopia, passports, accommodations, processing . . . and in the states, just because you adopted out of the country you have to have that child in your home for 6 months and go through an official adoption here. Oh yes, don't forget lawyer fees.

    We had none of that. We adopted from the county south of us. K was cocaine positive at birth and born to a homeless, drug addicted prostitute. Because she is termed as a "special needs child" with the state, they covered all of the costs of adoption. Taking the classes through the county was free-- something that my friend paid thousands for just to have complete over the course of two weekends.

    How is K? She is wonderful and beautiful and smart and SHE IS OURS. Why do I say that? Because a lot of people think that drug babies are throw aways. They aren't. She is a great student, earning the President's Education Award last year-- the highest honor you can receive in elementary. (With a letter from President Obama.) She played harp all year last year. She is studying violin this year. She loves soccer, swimming and archery.

    Just a lil education from a mama who has been there.

    Single parent adoption occurs every day. There are wee ones out there who need loving homes and they live all over the world. We just need to grab them up, even if one by one, to hug on them and give them the life that they deserve.

    Stepping down from my soapbox. Sorry. A bit passionate about adoption.
    Oh. I didn't know your story. I am also a bit passionate about adoption. We have a birth son and then I couldn't get pregnant again. We went through fertility stuff (misery) and wanted to adopt in the U.S. - we were a little afraid of private adoption because we'd heard horror stories of families who brought a baby home only to have a birth parent change their mind. Also at the time we wanted to adopt, it was more difficult to adopt a child of color.

    We ended up going international. From India. Our daughter weighed about 3 pounds at birth. We don't know anything about the parents except they were probably unmarried. Probably illiterate. Very very poor and very very young. Our daughter came to us at 8 months. She is a joy, a treasure. Smart, athletic, musical (AIC is her favorite band) - we just sent her off to college where she plans to major in marine science and music.

    Adoption is fabulous. If we were younger we would have a house filled with children. All ages, all colors.

    Whoops, I got a little carried away. Sorry. Thank you for your post.
  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    So many stories of adoption and the different paths that took us to the people who needed us and we needed them.

    Thank you for sharing your story, Enkidu. Saw a picture of your beautiful daughter with her dress and gloves. Now off to college. A life she wouldn't have ever had if you and your husband hadn't gone to take her to your home. She and I both thank you for that!
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  • EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    deadendp said:

    So many stories of adoption and the different paths that took us to the people who needed us and we needed them.

    Thank you for sharing your story, Enkidu. Saw a picture of your beautiful daughter with her dress and gloves. Now off to college. A life she wouldn't have ever had if you and your husband hadn't gone to take her to your home. She and I both thank you for that!

    We're so lucky. Maybe we can inspire someone to do the same.
  • Ny
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Whoopie pies are gross.
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    - Christopher McCandless
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    wish i could drive to the beach right now
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    yes mums home see you all tomorrow
    take care..
    its music and food now for me thanks..
  • Ny
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,991
    All that late night pizza I had delivered while drunk. Dammit. Why is there so much?? SMH.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    have to hop off this thing now and do my usual
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    is it too much to ask to be left alone for a day?
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
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    Whether I really need a 55-300mm lens if I buy a new camera with a 18-55mm included. Have had big zooms before and I never get the use for the extra outlay. They pack it to sell as a kit with bag, other extras, so it's often more expensive not to buy it included. I have a good camera already but am looking for more megapixels for my 2016 year of travelling.
    late PJ bloomer- what was I doing in the 90's that I didn't know who Pearl Jam was???
  • RKCNDY said:

    is it too much to ask to be left alone for a day?

    Today yes, you are ours RK!
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013

    RKCNDY said:

    is it too much to ask to be left alone for a day?

    Today yes, you are ours RK!
    :lol: well now that I'm at the proper cruising altitude, I suppose it's alright.
    The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.

    - Christopher McCandless
  • ldent42ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    These songs of freedom
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  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    want to hop off the net now my headache is bothering me
  • PapPap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,193
    edited September 2015
    ldent42 said:

    These songs of freedom

    Thank you Eddie for playing a Marley song after many years! Holiday single 2015? :lightbulb::wink:
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  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    i see my negativeness rubs off on other people too lol not good
    but at least good and bad things do come in threes ;)
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    RVM from Paris 2000..WOW..
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • PJ_Soul said:

    All that late night pizza I had delivered while drunk. Dammit. Why is there so much?? SMH.

    :lol: Ordered pizza last night in anticipation of watching GCF. It was so bad I didn't watch it until PJ was supposed to come on and then with the delay thing and near heart attack of not seeing them I lost my appetite and now have enough pizza for the rest of the week.
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