As a diehard PJ fan, I have to ask, not just the original poster, but everyone in general... (just don't want to create too many redundant threads)... Why does every new PJ album have to be "better" or even compared with other albums?
To me, every album has engaged me differently, made me think about different things, about different parts of my life. Every album means a LOT to me, and thats 9 for 9 with countless bootlegs, miscellaneous songs and Lost Dogs as well.
At first I liked it, I found myself nodding my head with it, really feeling it. But after a second and third listen I was kind of over it. It didn't really stick with me. The song seems kind of forced (almost like they are trying to do all the can to make a song epic) I don't know, I guess it's the piano.
I know you're going to think I'm crazy for not loving it, but it just didn't move me. :roll:
it doesn't feel forced to me, but the lyrics, especially in the beginning, are too happy touchy feely pep talk for my cold, black heart. But i find the lyrics to Present Tense unbearably trite, too (i like the song overall though).
Once the bass kicks in UK takes off and i can enjoy it.
Hmm I've always loved Present Tense. No Code is amazing in general actually.
Do you see the way that tree bends? Does it inspire? Leanin' out to catch the sun's ray, A lesson to be applied" Always thought that had a deep meaning, you know? It's Ed doing what he does best and painting a beautiful picture with words.
As a diehard PJ fan, I have to ask, not just the original poster, but everyone in general... (just don't want to create too many redundant threads)... Why does every new PJ album have to be "better" or even compared with other albums?
To me, every album has engaged me differently, made me think about different things, about different parts of my life. Every album means a LOT to me, and thats 9 for 9 with countless bootlegs, miscellaneous songs and Lost Dogs as well.
Whatever it is that PJ does, I'm vibing with it.
Well you have to understand that I'm probably younger than you are. I wasn't into Pearl Jam when Ten came out (I was 2 months old) I didn't get into Pearl Jam until I was 13, and by then Binaural had already came out. So I kind of had to take it all in at once, you know? That makes not comparing albums impossible.
Everyone compares albums, it's almost impossible not to. It doesn't make you any less of a fan to hold your favorite band to a standard. I like Pearl Jam because their music breaks musical barriers to me. Eddie's lyrics have depth and emotion that again can't be replicated. The only band to compare them to is themselves, because to me they are in a league of their own.
I'm in agreement that this album is not as good as Yield, which I personally consider the best overall rock album (lyrics, musical composition and rock-out-ability) from start to finish in the last 20 years.
For me, the best Pearl Jam stretch that I compare everything else to is "Vitalogy", "No Code" and "Yield", and none of the last few albums come close to those ones. But that's just me. Someone else out there is gonna think nothing will ever top "Ten" and another will think "Backspacer", the avocado/self-titled album and Riot Act album are the best things since sliced bread.
All that said, I think:
the best song on the album is Unthought Known.
For all the talk about The End and Ed's vocals on it nearly breaking and it being a tear-jerker of a song, Thumbing My Way and Nothingman remain the only PJ songs that make me choke up.
I love The Fixer live more than studio version.
I love Got Some more than Conan debut (and will continue to say, knowing full well I'll continue to be flogged for saying it, that it totally rips off Devo's excellent "Gut Feeling")
Really dig the guitar burst at the end of "Force of Nature"
I can't stop singing a few verses from "Just Breathe" with the uh-huh parts.
Ditto for the Supersonic chorus.
Gonna See My Friend is a damn good album opener.
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Backspacer has some incredible lyrics. Force of Nature is an instant classic. And Mike McCready wrote it (music-wise), which makes it FLOWTASTIC!!
One man stands alone awaiting for her to come home
Eyes above the horizon
in the dark before the
darkness leaves the dawn
Makes me ache
Makes me shake
Is it so wrong to think that
Love can keep us safe?
Not only the words, but the way they are fit around the guitar make this song fucking ROCK..
It is flowtastic, and it sure is poppy..
I can't express it really, but the piano just doesn't fit in Pearl Jam songs with me. Again this sounds more like a U2 song then a Pearl Jam song.
Take out the piano and I'm sure I'll love it! I love every bit of Got Some, I hate listening to Force of Nature and having to "tune out" certain parts.
You can call it being close minded, but to me it just doesn't musically mesh well. (I know you probably think I'm smoking crack.)
As a diehard PJ fan, I have to ask, not just the original poster, but everyone in general... (just don't want to create too many redundant threads)... Why does every new PJ album have to be "better" or even compared with other albums?
To me, every album has engaged me differently, made me think about different things, about different parts of my life. Every album means a LOT to me, and thats 9 for 9 with countless bootlegs, miscellaneous songs and Lost Dogs as well.
Whatever it is that PJ does, I'm vibing with it.
you are so sensible pearljammer - i hear ya buddy.
here's my 2 cents:
comparing the albums and songs to previous ones is a pointless exercise. it's such a personal thing as to what is floating one's boat at that particular point in time. people get so caught up in wanting everyone to agree with their point of view that they forget the simple beauty of different songs doing it for different people. i love that pearl jam songs that i hate are some people's favourites - it always strikes me. no album or song can possibly be everyone's favourite, as if that were so we'd all have to be brainwashed robots who've been subjected to the same teachings and experiences. pearl jam are very clever in that different albums and songs have a completely different character. i happen to adore this album if anyone cares, but i don't expect others to care and i don't care if they care.
... there you go
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There, I said it. Seems like the more I read these boards the more I see people getting destroyed for not liking Backspacer. NEWSFLASH, it's not the best thing since Yield.
I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:
Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.
I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.
It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.
I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.
Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.
I think every post you've made over the last few days has been negative towards Backspacer. Did you really need to make a thread about your feelings as well toward the album? I'm pretty sure everyone knows you don't like it, that's fine, now move along...
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comparing the albums and songs to previous ones is a pointless exercise. it's such a personal thing as to what is floating one's boat at that particular point in time. people get so caught up in wanting everyone to agree with their point of view that they forget the simple beauty of different songs doing it for different people. i love that pearl jam songs that i hate are some people's favourites - it always strikes me. no album or song can possibly be everyone's favourite, as if that were so we'd all have to be brainwashed robots who've been subjected to the same teachings and experiences. pearl jam are very clever in that different albums and songs have a completely different character. i happen to adore this album if anyone cares, but i don't expect others to care and i don't care if they care.
... there you go
Sorry buddy, again to me it's human nature to compare things. I'm just stating the effect this record had on me, and after I listened to it I was left dissapointed.
This album has gotten a lot of love on the boards, and again I'm sure it will sell great. I guess I'm just not listening to the same album you all are. To me it seems entirely to poppy and catchy.
i would prefer a more stripped down PJ album next (doubt it will happen), but this isnt too bad. i think the extras add to some of the songs like Unthought Known, but not all.
That's exactly what it's about, and it's a beautiful line.
Lyrically it's a solid record, but what do you expect from Eddie Vedder? That's what he does best.
But musically it doesn't stick with me.
Want to know what I think is the best part about PJ?
One day, many years from now, you'll be driving somewhere, with your iPod on shuffle, and one of these songs will come on.. and it will totally click. It will make your hair stand on end. It will make you put the pedal to the floor and you will drive home and start a thread on here raving about how awesome
There, I said it. Seems like the more I read these boards the more I see people getting destroyed for not liking Backspacer. NEWSFLASH, it's not the best thing since Yield.
I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:
Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.
I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.
It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.
I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.
Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.
I think every post you've made over the last few days has been negative towards Backspacer. Did you really need to make a thread about your feelings as well toward the album? I'm pretty sure everyone knows you don't like it, that's fine, now move along...
Really? Because I've seen 4 threads alone dedicated to Amongst the Waves. If they can voice their opinion and be repetitive, don't I have that same right? That repetitive clam has two sides to it. It's all an opinion (even if it's positive or negative)
You like Backspacer.
I don't like it as much as you do.
If you have the right to post post after post confessing your love for it, I have the right to do the opposite.
That's exactly what it's about, and it's a beautiful line.
Lyrically it's a solid record, but what do you expect from Eddie Vedder? That's what he does best.
But musically it doesn't stick with me.
Want to know what I think is the best part about PJ?
One day, many years from now, you'll be driving somewhere, with your iPod on shuffle, and one of these songs will come on.. and it will totally click. It will make your hair stand on end. It will make you put the pedal to the floor and you will drive home and start a thread on here raving about how awesome
GONNA SEE MY FRIEND IS!!!!!!
Indeed my friend.
I love the guitar lick playing as eddie sings, "I'm gonna shake this thing, I'm gonna shake this pain before I retire"
So groovy!
WOOT!
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That's exactly what it's about, and it's a beautiful line.
Lyrically it's a solid record, but what do you expect from Eddie Vedder? That's what he does best.
But musically it doesn't stick with me.
Want to know what I think is the best part about PJ?
One day, many years from now, you'll be driving somewhere, with your iPod on shuffle, and one of these songs will come on.. and it will totally click. It will make your hair stand on end. It will make you put the pedal to the floor and you will drive home and start a thread on here raving about how awesome
i always find it interesting to hear from fans who werent around during the early years. i forget that people actually became fans BECAUSE of albums like Binaural and RA.
I will never understand Yields appeal over the other albums. Yes, its a great album, but I personally do not find it more likable than Binaural, Riot Act, Avocado or Backspacer, all fine albums in my opinion. Maybe I'm just a Pearl Jam slut.
I wish people would stop trying to compare albums and just let them be on their own.
let us compare shit endlessly and pointlessly in peace!
i know i'm crazy but i think some albums are better than others. its all just opinions obviously (but not so obvious to some), and even if i disagree i'm interested to hear it. Sure, i'll call you an idiot and demand you be banned for liking Cropduster, but i'll forgive you .
i don't think Yield is their best album, i just think none of their last 4 albums are as good (IMO). its just a good dividing line i think. For a lot of people thats true.
I love the album. But I will agree comparing Amongst the Waves to Given to Fly is blasphemous. One of their greatest songs ever being compared with one of the weakest tracks on Backspacer. mmmmm no.
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let us compare shit endlessly and pointlessly in peace!
i know i'm crazy but i think some albums are better than others. its all just opinions obviously (but not so obvious to some), and even if i disagree i'm interested to hear it. Sure, i'll call you an idiot and demand you be banned for liking Cropduster, but i'll forgive you .
i don't think Yield is their best album, i just think none of their last 4 albums are as good. For a lot of people thats true.
I hope I can explain myself clearly on my point here. In a strange way, I think Backspacer makes the three albums that preceded it (Binaural, Riot Act and Avocado) more relevant. I think this because, I can hear all of those albums in Backspacer. As if it was all some grand progression.
Got Some alone pretty much kicks the crap out of Riot Act....and for me, the proper comparison to Given to Fly is Unthought Known...in the way that it builds slowly, steadily raising you up off the ground, until it explodes and sends you soaring above everything....anyway, have fun listening to Help Help, Cropduster and Bushleaguer ..
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put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
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I love the album. But I will agree comparing Amongst the Waves to Given to Fly is blasphemous. One of their greatest songs ever being compared with one of the weakest tracks on Backspacer. mmmmm no.
Can I ask what makes you think it's so weak? I'm not being an ass, I'm curious. If anything, I think the song reminds me of In Hiding. Another amazing, uplifting song.
I also think the comparison is neat, in the fact that right after Amongst the Waves is over, another song with a palm muted melody begins, Unthought Known. Kinda like Wishlist after Given to Fly.
I love the album. But I will agree comparing Amongst the Waves to Given to Fly is blasphemous. One of their greatest songs ever being compared with one of the weakest tracks on Backspacer. mmmmm no.
I like Amongst the Waves better than Given to Fly.. Given to Fly has lived its life and a great one it was, but time for new music and new memories.
Backspacer is a "filler album", it's a throw away album with some nice pop/punkrockers and a great Just breathe.
Would like to write more but at work. Boss will kill me.
But actually listened to Backspacer and directly after that put on Riot Act a few days ago. It is a giant difference in quality to me. Riot act is honest, bold, has a lot of nice unique songs and Eddie sings in a thoughtful and mature way. To me that is how PJ should sound when they are 40+ years old. It's like every word that leaves his mouth he thinks about.
Backspacer has some fun songs on it, Got Some and The Fixer was great to hear live but it still "nothing special". Easy to listen to, but doesn't stay with me. I respect what PJ is doing this album and with Avocado (which I'm not a super fan of either), but I wish that Rioc Act would have sold more so they would have understood that is the way to go.
You can't beat the atmosphere on that record.
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replace Ghost, Cropduster, and Green Disease with Down, Undone, and Otherside and then I would agree Riot Act is a masterpiece. I agree with one of the previous pages. I like each album because they all stand on their own and looking back really provided a soundtrack as to what was going in my life at the time.
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I love the album. But I will agree comparing Amongst the Waves to Given to Fly is blasphemous. One of their greatest songs ever being compared with one of the weakest tracks on Backspacer. mmmmm no.
Can I ask what makes you think it's so weak? I'm not being an ass, I'm curious. If anything, I think the song reminds me of In Hiding. Another amazing, uplifting song.
I also think the comparison is neat, in the fact that right after Amongst the Waves is over, another song with a palm muted melody begins, Unthought Known. Kinda like Wishlist after Given to Fly.
i agree that its more like In Hiding, but it doesnt do much for me either. its too polished and safe to me. Sounds like something U2 or someone like that would make. The older anthemic songs felt more raw than this. They felt more...i dont know the word... urgent?
Plus the lyrics don't do much for me. The thinly veiled surfing metaphors are pretty lame.
i don't hate it, i'm just not crazy about it. Its really just a matter of personal preference. its technically good, but im not really into these newer PJ mid tempo songs. i still like their slow ones and rockers, but the midtempo ones from the last few albums bore the shit out of me. EXCEPT 1/2 Full and Unthought Known, which aren't perfect but are pretty good.
It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.
this album won't even sell 500,000 copies. i can't bet you a 12 pack of your fave beer on that. big deal that's its being promoted on espn. espn has been doing that as of late with new cd from bands. they did the same with green day's cd and some of pearl jam's self titled.
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To me, every album has engaged me differently, made me think about different things, about different parts of my life. Every album means a LOT to me, and thats 9 for 9 with countless bootlegs, miscellaneous songs and Lost Dogs as well.
Whatever it is that PJ does, I'm vibing with it.
~ is your Pearl Jam cup half empty, or 1/2 Full?
Hmm I've always loved Present Tense. No Code is amazing in general actually.
Do you see the way that tree bends? Does it inspire? Leanin' out to catch the sun's ray, A lesson to be applied" Always thought that had a deep meaning, you know? It's Ed doing what he does best and painting a beautiful picture with words.
Well you have to understand that I'm probably younger than you are. I wasn't into Pearl Jam when Ten came out (I was 2 months old) I didn't get into Pearl Jam until I was 13, and by then Binaural had already came out. So I kind of had to take it all in at once, you know? That makes not comparing albums impossible.
Everyone compares albums, it's almost impossible not to. It doesn't make you any less of a fan to hold your favorite band to a standard. I like Pearl Jam because their music breaks musical barriers to me. Eddie's lyrics have depth and emotion that again can't be replicated. The only band to compare them to is themselves, because to me they are in a league of their own.
One man stands alone awaiting for her to come home
Eyes above the horizon
in the dark before the
darkness leaves the dawn
Makes me ache
Makes me shake
Is it so wrong to think that
Love can keep us safe?
Not only the words, but the way they are fit around the guitar make this song fucking ROCK..
~ is your Pearl Jam cup half empty, or 1/2 Full?
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just you and me and nothing more.
If not for love I would be drowning,
I've seen it work both ways.
But I am up, Riding high amongst the waves"
The power of love, at least that's how I take it.
For me, the best Pearl Jam stretch that I compare everything else to is "Vitalogy", "No Code" and "Yield", and none of the last few albums come close to those ones. But that's just me. Someone else out there is gonna think nothing will ever top "Ten" and another will think "Backspacer", the avocado/self-titled album and Riot Act album are the best things since sliced bread.
All that said, I think:
the best song on the album is Unthought Known.
For all the talk about The End and Ed's vocals on it nearly breaking and it being a tear-jerker of a song, Thumbing My Way and Nothingman remain the only PJ songs that make me choke up.
I love The Fixer live more than studio version.
I love Got Some more than Conan debut (and will continue to say, knowing full well I'll continue to be flogged for saying it, that it totally rips off Devo's excellent "Gut Feeling")
Really dig the guitar burst at the end of "Force of Nature"
I can't stop singing a few verses from "Just Breathe" with the uh-huh parts.
Ditto for the Supersonic chorus.
Gonna See My Friend is a damn good album opener.
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It is flowtastic, and it sure is poppy..
I can't express it really, but the piano just doesn't fit in Pearl Jam songs with me. Again this sounds more like a U2 song then a Pearl Jam song.
Take out the piano and I'm sure I'll love it! I love every bit of Got Some, I hate listening to Force of Nature and having to "tune out" certain parts.
You can call it being close minded, but to me it just doesn't musically mesh well. (I know you probably think I'm smoking crack.)
here's my 2 cents:
comparing the albums and songs to previous ones is a pointless exercise. it's such a personal thing as to what is floating one's boat at that particular point in time. people get so caught up in wanting everyone to agree with their point of view that they forget the simple beauty of different songs doing it for different people. i love that pearl jam songs that i hate are some people's favourites - it always strikes me. no album or song can possibly be everyone's favourite, as if that were so we'd all have to be brainwashed robots who've been subjected to the same teachings and experiences. pearl jam are very clever in that different albums and songs have a completely different character. i happen to adore this album if anyone cares, but i don't expect others to care and i don't care if they care.
... there you go
That's exactly what it's about, and it's a beautiful line.
Lyrically it's a solid record, but what do you expect from Eddie Vedder? That's what he does best.
But musically it doesn't stick with me.
I think every post you've made over the last few days has been negative towards Backspacer. Did you really need to make a thread about your feelings as well toward the album? I'm pretty sure everyone knows you don't like it, that's fine, now move along...
Sorry buddy, again to me it's human nature to compare things. I'm just stating the effect this record had on me, and after I listened to it I was left dissapointed.
This album has gotten a lot of love on the boards, and again I'm sure it will sell great. I guess I'm just not listening to the same album you all are. To me it seems entirely to poppy and catchy.
Want to know what I think is the best part about PJ?
One day, many years from now, you'll be driving somewhere, with your iPod on shuffle, and one of these songs will come on.. and it will totally click. It will make your hair stand on end. It will make you put the pedal to the floor and you will drive home and start a thread on here raving about how awesome
GONNA SEE MY FRIEND IS!!!!!!
WOOT!
~ is your Pearl Jam cup half empty, or 1/2 Full?
Really? Because I've seen 4 threads alone dedicated to Amongst the Waves. If they can voice their opinion and be repetitive, don't I have that same right? That repetitive clam has two sides to it. It's all an opinion (even if it's positive or negative)
You like Backspacer.
I don't like it as much as you do.
If you have the right to post post after post confessing your love for it, I have the right to do the opposite.
I hope (for the sake of nostalgia) you're right.
I've got to get Red Mosquito off of repeat before I can put Backspacer in my car.
I wish people would stop trying to compare albums and just let them be on their own.
i know i'm crazy but i think some albums are better than others. its all just opinions obviously (but not so obvious to some), and even if i disagree i'm interested to hear it. Sure, i'll call you an idiot and demand you be banned for liking Cropduster, but i'll forgive you
i don't think Yield is their best album, i just think none of their last 4 albums are as good (IMO). its just a good dividing line i think. For a lot of people thats true.
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I hope I can explain myself clearly on my point here. In a strange way, I think Backspacer makes the three albums that preceded it (Binaural, Riot Act and Avocado) more relevant. I think this because, I can hear all of those albums in Backspacer. As if it was all some grand progression.
~ is your Pearl Jam cup half empty, or 1/2 Full?
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Can I ask what makes you think it's so weak? I'm not being an ass, I'm curious. If anything, I think the song reminds me of In Hiding. Another amazing, uplifting song.
I also think the comparison is neat, in the fact that right after Amongst the Waves is over, another song with a palm muted melody begins, Unthought Known. Kinda like Wishlist after Given to Fly.
~ is your Pearl Jam cup half empty, or 1/2 Full?
Backspacer is a "filler album", it's a throw away album with some nice pop/punkrockers and a great Just breathe.
Would like to write more but at work. Boss will kill me.
But actually listened to Backspacer and directly after that put on Riot Act a few days ago. It is a giant difference in quality to me. Riot act is honest, bold, has a lot of nice unique songs and Eddie sings in a thoughtful and mature way. To me that is how PJ should sound when they are 40+ years old. It's like every word that leaves his mouth he thinks about.
Backspacer has some fun songs on it, Got Some and The Fixer was great to hear live but it still "nothing special". Easy to listen to, but doesn't stay with me. I respect what PJ is doing this album and with Avocado (which I'm not a super fan of either), but I wish that Rioc Act would have sold more so they would have understood that is the way to go.
You can't beat the atmosphere on that record.
i agree that its more like In Hiding, but it doesnt do much for me either. its too polished and safe to me. Sounds like something U2 or someone like that would make. The older anthemic songs felt more raw than this. They felt more...i dont know the word... urgent?
Plus the lyrics don't do much for me. The thinly veiled surfing metaphors are pretty lame.
i don't hate it, i'm just not crazy about it. Its really just a matter of personal preference. its technically good, but im not really into these newer PJ mid tempo songs. i still like their slow ones and rockers, but the midtempo ones from the last few albums bore the shit out of me. EXCEPT 1/2 Full and Unthought Known, which aren't perfect but are pretty good.
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