Riot Act > Backspacer
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There, I said it. Seems like the more I read these boards the more I see people getting destroyed for not liking Backspacer. NEWSFLASH, it's not the best thing since Yield.
I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:
Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.
I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.
It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.
I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.
Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.
I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:
Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.
I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.
It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.
I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.
Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.
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for the least they could possibly do
Lol, you can have ANY song on Backspacer, and I'll take Sleight of Hand.
I agree with some parts of this and disagree with other parts. I don't think it's the best since Yield either and I find a lot of it to be boring...especially after the first four songs. But I disagree with you on the piano and strings being a bad idea. I'm not a big Unthought Known fan...but the piano is totally warranted on it.
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I guess to an extent you can call me old fashion, it just seems totally out of place. To me it seems like an attempt to reach out to the mainstream radio listeners. It makes it catchy, and poppy, but it just doesn't seem right to me. :roll:
If someone is saying Amongst the Waves is comparable to Given to Fly for them, why should you act shocked? It's their opinion, and to them, its is comparable.
Just like for you, you say its getting crazy with people saying its PJ's best since Yield, it's also getting annoying seeing the people who don't dig Backspacer trying to shit in the cheerios of those that do.
To each their own.
I happen to love Backspacer. That is my opinion. And I also think it's their best since Yield/Binaural. Again, my opinion.
Well, hell, that's not fair. IT's my second favorite song of all-time!
for the least they could possibly do
That's all good buddy. The album stuck with you, and you really like it. I'm happy for you.
But I have every right to post my opinion of the album as you do, don't I? You can calling it "shitting in cheerios" and I call it letting my voice be heard.
It's a DAMN good record, solid from top to bottom.
(Just out of curiosity what's your first?)
Off He Goes.
for the least they could possibly do
You're absolutely entitled to your opinion that Riot Act is better than Backspacer.
But when you started insinuating those who were comparing ATW to GTF, or Backspacer to Yield were crazy, that's where you're now criticizing someone else's opinion.
I respectfully disagree that Riot Act>Backspacer, but do I think you're :shock: ? No.
You know (outside of backspacer
Well StickmanJam, do you honestly think ATW is better than GTF?
Too bad we're mortal enemies now. I will cut you if I see you on the street. I hope you understand.
for the least they could possibly do
Personally? I think ATW is a great song, but GTF is like top 3 PJ all-time for me, so I'd say right now, no.
But if someone else does, cool. I don't think they're crazy.
And not to change subjects, I have been able to appreciate Riot Act more as the years pass. There's less pressure on it I guess to live up to the "new record expectations," so I'm able to enjoy if for what it is.
With that said, imo, I do think Backspacer is their best since Binaural.
Are you disappointed with the whole album? Any songs catching for you yet?
Damn, this is a terrible way to start a friendship. If I see you in the street's I'll be make sure to approach with tact, and suggest that you should relax.
Because Binaural is better too.
(And his name's SleightofJeff
Well StickmanJam, do you honestly think ATW is better than GTF?[/quote]
Personally? I think ATW is a great song, but GTF is like top 3 PJ all-time for me, so I'd say right now, no.
But if someone else does, cool. I don't think they're crazy.
And not to change subjects, I have been able to appreciate Riot Act more as the years pass. There's less pressure on it I guess to live up to the "new record expectations," so I'm able to enjoy if for what it is.
With that said, imo, I do think Backspacer is their best since Binaural.
Are you disappointed with the whole album? Any songs catching for you yet?[/quote]
Sorry, I just don't think the power of Given to Fly can be replicated. Just the message in the lyrics send chills down my spine, it's powerful. It instills a message of hope, one of loving the world regardless of how others see you. It's amazing.
The Fixer is amazing live (Stone plays the piano part on the guitar
Got Some's probably my favorite on the record, it has balls and flat out rocks. (Pearl Jam doing what they do best in my opinion.)
Just Breathe really caught on for me well to. It's almost a replication of Guaranteed, and I love both songs!. (Eddie Vedder doing what he does best in my opinion.)
(Into the Wild kicked ass)
Personally? I think ATW is a great song, but GTF is like top 3 PJ all-time for me, so I'd say right now, no.
But if someone else does, cool. I don't think they're crazy.
And not to change subjects, I have been able to appreciate Riot Act more as the years pass. There's less pressure on it I guess to live up to the "new record expectations," so I'm able to enjoy if for what it is.
With that said, imo, I do think Backspacer is their best since Binaural.
Are you disappointed with the whole album? Any songs catching for you yet?[/quote]
Sorry, I just don't think the power of Given to Fly can be replicated. Just the message in the lyrics send chills down my spine, it's powerful. It instills a message of hope, one of loving the world regardless of how others see you. It's amazing.
The Fixer is amazing live (Stone plays the piano part on the guitar
Got Some's probably my favorite on the record, it has balls and flat out rocks. (Pearl Jam doing what they do best in my opinion.)
Just Breathe really caught on for me well to. It's almost a replication of Guaranteed, and I love both songs!. (Eddie Vedder doing what he does best in my opinion.)
(Into the Wild kicked ass)[/quote]
You're right, GTF can't be replicated, but for me personally, I've tried to avoid drawing parallels between ATW and GTF and just enjoy it for the very good song it is.
And the Fixer does sound ten times better live (and I love the studio version) And I also love Got Some, I think it would've fit great on Binaural alongside a song like Grievance.
And no mention of Unthought known? Not digging it yet?
Like I said before, turn the volume WAY UP. you'll get it
~ is your Pearl Jam cup half empty, or 1/2 Full?
Ed on Backspacer is 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000x better than Ed on RA.
i dont like ATW either. wannabe GTF.
i went from hating Sleight of Hand, to thinking it was incredible, to thinking its just pretty good because the first half is boredom set to music. the second half is bliss though.
thats all i got.
At first I liked it, I found myself nodding my head with it, really feeling it. But after a second and third listen I was kind of over it. It didn't really stick with me. The song seems kind of forced (almost like they are trying to do all the can to make a song epic) I don't know, I guess it's the piano.
I know you're going to think I'm crazy for not loving it, but it just didn't move me. :roll:
I agree. For some reason it sounds like Ed totally phoned it on Riot Act.
I think he was going for a more, raw, unproduced sound, because I remember an old interview when RA came out where Stone said they'd play through the song to record it, and after one take, Eddie would say, "alright, that's it. that one's done." And Stone was kinda like, oh, ok.
I think he sounds damn good on Thumbing My Way. Musically LBC and I Am Mine are beautiful.
Sorry man I just think that lyrically Backspacer can't hold a handle to Riot Act.
"And the young they can lose hope cause they don't see beyond today, the wisdom that the old can't give away."
That's wisdom that Target can't buy you.
Once the bass kicks in UK takes off and i can enjoy it.
Perhaps its too soon? I know I couldn't stand Binaural for a while. Now i put it up there with all their 90's albums.
and how about 1/2 on riot act? Love that tune, very bluesy and just raw sounding. Love the guitars.
but thats a good line.