Riot Act > Backspacer

Sleep.With.Innocence

There, I said it. Seems like the more I read these boards the more I see people getting destroyed for not liking Backspacer. NEWSFLASH, it's not the best thing since Yield.

I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:

Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.

I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.

It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.

I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.

Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.

slightofjeff

You're allowed to have your opinion, even if it's horrifically wrong

Sleep.With.Innocence

slightofjeff wrote:

You're allowed to have your opinion, even if it's horrifically wrong

Lol, you can have ANY song on Backspacer, and I'll take Sleight of Hand.

Ledbetterman10

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

There, I said it. Seems like the more I read these boards the more I see people getting destroyed for not liking Backspacer. NEWSFLASH, it's not the best thing since Yield.

I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:

Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.

I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.

It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.

I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.

Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.

I agree with some parts of this and disagree with other parts. I don't think it's the best since Yield either and I find a lot of it to be boring...especially after the first four songs. But I disagree with you on the piano and strings being a bad idea. I'm not a big Unthought Known fan...but the piano is totally warranted on it.

Sleep.With.Innocence

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

There, I said it. Seems like the more I read these boards the more I see people getting destroyed for not liking Backspacer. NEWSFLASH, it's not the best thing since Yield.

I saw someone early say that Amongst The Waves was the next Given to Fly. :shock:

Just because you don't think Backspacer is the best thing since sliced bread doesn't make you any less of a fan. I see this shit on the board over and over again "They aren't going to remake Ten, so get over it." <-- Calm all that crap down.

I like Backspacer, it's a solid record, but I don't love it. It has it's glaring weaknesses (in my opinion) But hey, just because don't like it as much as you doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. It just means we have a different musical taste, get over it.

It's a very poppy record, it screams mainstream. It will sell a butt load of records, but that's okay because that's what the band wants (to appeal to the mainstream) if you don't believe me watch ESPN.

I don't like the piano in any of it, I feel as if the orchestra add on kills the end of "The End". Speed of Sound would be much better with if it didn't have so many records. I LOVED the demo, highly dissapointed with all the extra "stuff" in it.

Sorry, I'm a Pearl Jam fan and I was somewhat dissapointed with Backspacer, shoot me.

I agree with some parts of this and disagree with other parts. I don't think it's the best since Yield either and I find a lot of it to be boring...especially after the first four songs. But I disagree with you on the piano and strings being a bad idea. I'm not a big Unthought Known fan...but the piano is totally warranted on it.

I guess to an extent you can call me old fashion, it just seems totally out of place. To me it seems like an attempt to reach out to the mainstream radio listeners. It makes it catchy, and poppy, but it just doesn't seem right to me. :roll:

StickmanJam

You know what, people are allowed to have those opinions, just like you're allowed to say Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

If someone is saying Amongst the Waves is comparable to Given to Fly for them, why should you act shocked? It's their opinion, and to them, its is comparable.

Just like for you, you say its getting crazy with people saying its PJ's best since Yield, it's also getting annoying seeing the people who don't dig Backspacer trying to shit in the cheerios of those that do.

To each their own.

I happen to love Backspacer. That is my opinion. And I also think it's their best since Yield/Binaural. Again, my opinion.

slightofjeff

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

You're allowed to have your opinion, even if it's horrifically wrong

Lol, you can have ANY song on Backspacer, and I'll take Sleight of Hand.

Well, hell, that's not fair. IT's my second favorite song of all-time!

Sleep.With.Innocence

StickmanJam wrote:

You know what, people are allowed to have those opinions, just like you're allowed to say Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

If someone is saying Amongst the Waves is comparable to Given to Fly for them, why should you act shocked? It's their opinion, and to them, its is comparable.

Just like for you, you say its getting crazy with people saying its PJ's best since Yield, it's also getting annoying seeing the people who don't dig Backspacer trying to shit in the cheerios of those that do.

To each their own.

I happen to love Backspacer. That is my opinion. And I also think it's their best since Yield/Binaural. Again, my opinion.

That's all good buddy. The album stuck with you, and you really like it. I'm happy for you.

But I have every right to post my opinion of the album as you do, don't I? You can calling it "shitting in cheerios" and I call it letting my voice be heard.

Sleep.With.Innocence

slightofjeff wrote:

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

You're allowed to have your opinion, even if it's horrifically wrong

Lol, you can have ANY song on Backspacer, and I'll take Sleight of Hand.

Well, hell, that's not fair. IT's my second favorite song of all-time!

It's a DAMN good record, solid from top to bottom.

(Just out of curiosity what's your first?)

slightofjeff

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

It's a DAMN good record, solid from top to bottom.

(Just out of curiosity what's your first?)

Off He Goes.

StickmanJam

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

StickmanJam wrote:

You know what, people are allowed to have those opinions, just like you're allowed to say Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

If someone is saying Amongst the Waves is comparable to Given to Fly for them, why should you act shocked? It's their opinion, and to them, its is comparable.

Just like for you, you say its getting crazy with people saying its PJ's best since Yield, it's also getting annoying seeing the people who don't dig Backspacer trying to shit in the cheerios of those that do.

To each their own.

I happen to love Backspacer. That is my opinion. And I also think it's their best since Yield/Binaural. Again, my opinion.

That's all good buddy. The album stuck with you, and you really like it. I'm happy for you.

But I have every right to post my opinion of the album as you do, don't I? You can calling it "shitting in cheerios" and I call it letting my voice be heard.

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion that Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

But when you started insinuating those who were comparing ATW to GTF, or Backspacer to Yield were crazy, that's where you're now criticizing someone else's opinion.

I respectfully disagree that Riot Act>Backspacer, but do I think you're :shock: ? No.

Sleep.With.Innocence

slightofjeff wrote:

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

It's a DAMN good record, solid from top to bottom.

(Just out of curiosity what's your first?)

Off He Goes.

You know (outside of backspacer ) me and you could become great friends!

Sleep.With.Innocence

StickmanJam wrote:

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion that Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

But when you started insinuating those who were comparing ATW to GTF, or Backspacer to Yield were crazy, that's where you're now criticizing someone else's opinion.

I respectfully disagree that Riot Act>Backspacer, but do I think you're :shock: ? No.

Well StickmanJam, do you honestly think ATW is better than GTF?

slightofjeff

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

You know (outside of backspacer ) me and you could become great friends!

Too bad we're mortal enemies now. I will cut you if I see you on the street. I hope you understand.

Gmoney

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

You're allowed to have your opinion, even if it's horrifically wrong

Lol, you can have ANY song on Backspacer, and I'll take Sleight of Hand.

if riot act is better, why pick a song from binaural?

StickmanJam

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

StickmanJam wrote:

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion that Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

But when you started insinuating those who were comparing ATW to GTF, or Backspacer to Yield were crazy, that's where you're now criticizing someone else's opinion.

I respectfully disagree that Riot Act>Backspacer, but do I think you're :shock: ? No.

Well StickmanJam, do you honestly think ATW is better than GTF?

Personally? I think ATW is a great song, but GTF is like top 3 PJ all-time for me, so I'd say right now, no.

But if someone else does, cool. I don't think they're crazy.

And not to change subjects, I have been able to appreciate Riot Act more as the years pass. There's less pressure on it I guess to live up to the "new record expectations," so I'm able to enjoy if for what it is.

With that said, imo, I do think Backspacer is their best since Binaural.

Are you disappointed with the whole album? Any songs catching for you yet?

Sleep.With.Innocence

slightofjeff wrote:

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

You know (outside of backspacer ) me and you could become great friends!

Too bad we're mortal enemies now. I will cut you if I see you on the street. I hope you understand.

Damn, this is a terrible way to start a friendship. If I see you in the street's I'll be make sure to approach with tact, and suggest that you should relax.

Sleep.With.Innocence

Gmoney wrote:

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

You're allowed to have your opinion, even if it's horrifically wrong

Lol, you can have ANY song on Backspacer, and I'll take Sleight of Hand.

if riot act is better, why pick a song from binaural?

Because Binaural is better too.

(And his name's SleightofJeff )

Laf9124

I love Backspacer, and think it's clearly their best since Yield, or at the very least Binaural. To me atleast, it's much better than Riot Act. I very much like 3/4 of S/T album as well, but Backspacer is just quality from to end. There isn't a song I'll automatically skip, and only one close to being one of those(Speed of Sound). I do agree that it's very poppy and happy, and will probably be very popular with the mainstream. All that matters to me though is what I think, and I think it's great! Hopefully you all enjoy it as well.

Sleep.With.Innocence

StickmanJam wrote:

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion that Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

But when you started insinuating those who were comparing ATW to GTF, or Backspacer to Yield were crazy, that's where you're now criticizing someone else's opinion.

I respectfully disagree that Riot Act>Backspacer, but do I think you're :shock: ? No.

Well StickmanJam, do you honestly think ATW is better than GTF?[/quote]

Personally? I think ATW is a great song, but GTF is like top 3 PJ all-time for me, so I'd say right now, no.

But if someone else does, cool. I don't think they're crazy.

And not to change subjects, I have been able to appreciate Riot Act more as the years pass. There's less pressure on it I guess to live up to the "new record expectations," so I'm able to enjoy if for what it is.

With that said, imo, I do think Backspacer is their best since Binaural.

Are you disappointed with the whole album? Any songs catching for you yet?[/quote]

Sorry, I just don't think the power of Given to Fly can be replicated. Just the message in the lyrics send chills down my spine, it's powerful. It instills a message of hope, one of loving the world regardless of how others see you. It's amazing.

The Fixer is amazing live (Stone plays the piano part on the guitar )

Got Some's probably my favorite on the record, it has balls and flat out rocks. (Pearl Jam doing what they do best in my opinion.)

Just Breathe really caught on for me well to. It's almost a replication of Guaranteed, and I love both songs!. (Eddie Vedder doing what he does best in my opinion.)

(Into the Wild kicked ass)

StickmanJam

Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:

StickmanJam wrote:

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion that Riot Act is better than Backspacer.

But when you started insinuating those who were comparing ATW to GTF, or Backspacer to Yield were crazy, that's where you're now criticizing someone else's opinion.

I respectfully disagree that Riot Act>Backspacer, but do I think you're :shock: ? No.

Well StickmanJam, do you honestly think ATW is better than GTF?

Personally? I think ATW is a great song, but GTF is like top 3 PJ all-time for me, so I'd say right now, no.

But if someone else does, cool. I don't think they're crazy.

And not to change subjects, I have been able to appreciate Riot Act more as the years pass. There's less pressure on it I guess to live up to the "new record expectations," so I'm able to enjoy if for what it is.

With that said, imo, I do think Backspacer is their best since Binaural.

Are you disappointed with the whole album? Any songs catching for you yet?[/quote]

Sorry, I just don't think the power of Given to Fly can be replicated. Just the message in the lyrics send chills down my spine, it's powerful. It instills a message of hope, one of loving the world regardless of how others see you. It's amazing.

The Fixer is amazing live (Stone plays the piano part on the guitar )

Got Some's probably my favorite on the record, it has balls and flat out rocks. (Pearl Jam doing what they do best in my opinion.)

Just Breathe really caught on for me well to. It's almost a replication of Guaranteed, and I love both songs!. (Eddie Vedder doing what he does best in my opinion.)

(Into the Wild kicked ass)[/quote]

You're right, GTF can't be replicated, but for me personally, I've tried to avoid drawing parallels between ATW and GTF and just enjoy it for the very good song it is.

And the Fixer does sound ten times better live (and I love the studio version) And I also love Got Some, I think it would've fit great on Binaural alongside a song like Grievance.

And no mention of Unthought known? Not digging it yet?