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I think it is an age thing, but it's more about the band's age, or the band's maturity, than it is about my age or anyone else's age.
I just came back from my run, and one of the songs that popped up on my iPod (amidst all of the PJ and Paul Weller) was Blink-182's "What's My Age Again." Now, even though I am a 40-year-old soccer mom, I always have found Blink-182 to be pretty entertaining. For a while, I really hoped they would become the next Ramones. Today, I found myself thinking about how what might sound amusing and entertaining coming from a guy in his early- to mid-twenties usually seems pretty immature coming from a 40-ish guy, and downright creepy when coming from the mouth of a man in his 60's.
I like the fast songs and the slow songs (and the mid-tempo songs) on Backspacer. I can relate to the slow songs more now than I would have been able to twenty-odd years ago, but then again I have been a fan of Lloyd Cole for nearly twenty years, so I have always had a soft spot for the singer-songwriter style.
The raw anger and emotion on Ten and Vs. is awesome, and makes for some amazing rock music. I think I would find it disturbing if Ed was channeling the same sort of rage now as he was 15-20 years ago, although frankly I am not sure if it is even possible to sustain that level of rage for so long. I can tell you that what I admire most about the band is its collective intelligence. When I look at the band and its music and things have progressed over the years, I see men who had the intelligence and creativity to tackle rage, fame, etc., deal with them in a reasonably healthy (if counter-intuitive to the media) manner, and find a way to survive, thrive and grow up. I see the same sort of maturation that I see in my husband and in other decent, mature men of a certain age. I don't know, maybe I am just babbling, but what I am trying to say is, I think I get it.
Cheers.
All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
thing is, i am very content.....and yet, i am just not loving this album as a WHOLE.
Like I said, the age/contentment thing is just a generalization. Doesn't neccesarily apply to everyone. It could just be that you are a weird old fart
the weirdness is entirely possible....;)
however, i don't think i am weird over my thoughts on backspacer.
and curmudgeoness, excellent post! really good points. i definitely see it as natural progression as well. if you can't reach happiness/contentment by middle age....yikes! and yes, let's face it.....the 40s ARe middle age, tho certainly not being 'middle-aged'....;). and i AM very glad they don;t just stick to the formula 'that worked before'....b/c that would be utterly.......boring. i far rather have an album that i don't love start to finish, or that i may see as a bit uneven, but that takes chances, has some new things to say, AND still has some amazing music on it, than the safe route of doing the same old, same old. so while i see the maturity/progression/contentment related to age (tho still not entirely dependent on it )...i still also don't use that age to account for all that occurs on the album, nor the fans, young and old, reaction to it.
The new solo album from Ace Frehley is far better.
Please tell me you are kidding my friend. I figured this would be right up youR alley.
Well this statement (that I like Ace's album better) isn't a huge stretch for me, given my fandom. But at this point, yeah I do like Ace's better. Doesn't mean I don't like Backspacer though. I think Backspacer is decent after 3 listens. I need to hear it more truthfully before passing judgment and possibly reviewing it properly.
When I look at the band and its music and things have progressed over the years, I see men who had the intelligence and creativity to tackle rage, fame, etc., deal with them in a reasonably healthy (if counter-intuitive to the media) manner, and find a way to survive, thrive and grow up. I see the same sort of maturation that I see in my husband and in other decent, mature men of a certain age.
I am right around the Median age of the band and maybe after years of angst and the Bush Administration and other things to throw stones at, perhaps like me, it's time to reflect on the good things in life like having kids and family. I hear a lot of that in here. Mortality too which is something on my mind as well. They still rock it out but in a more refined way. Kind of like a fine wine.
Curious to see if those that don't like it as much fall into a younger age bracket.
Maybe he just realized that politics weren't the way to change the world
this is happening couse when the years pass u dream and think of what u didnt do and the fears are getting bigger
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The raw anger and emotion on Ten and Vs. is awesome, and makes for some amazing rock music. I think I would find it disturbing if Ed was channeling the same sort of rage now as he was 15-20 years ago, although frankly I am not sure if it is even possible to sustain that level of rage for so long. I can tell you that what I admire most about the band is its collective intelligence. When I look at the band and its music and things have progressed over the years, I see men who had the intelligence and creativity to tackle rage, fame, etc., deal with them in a reasonably healthy (if counter-intuitive to the media) manner, and find a way to survive, thrive and grow up. I see the same sort of maturation that I see in my husband and in other decent, mature men of a certain age. I don't know, maybe I am just babbling, but what I am trying to say is, I think I get it.
i think the last minute of the Making of Backspacer when Ed is talking about where he is at musically really hit the nail on the head for these questions being asked about age and all that
I am right around the Median age of the band and maybe after years of angst and the Bush Administration and other things to throw stones at, perhaps like me, it's time to reflect on the good things in life like having kids and family. I hear a lot of that in here. Mortality too which is something on my mind as well. They still rock it out but in a more refined way. Kind of like a fine wine.
Curious to see if those that don't like it as much fall into a younger age bracket.
I am 42...so pretty much the same age as the band. I have been a fan since first sight in '91. I have always tried to explain "the soundtrack of my life" theory to my friends and they just don't get it. But, in all seriousness, every album has lyrically just fit into my life at that given moment in an amazing way.
Good think though...I still like to "rock out" and they still do that. I am a big fan of the Black Crowes too, and have been for about the same amount of time and the Crowes have really settled into a more mature sound that I don't like at all. Pearl Jam still stimulates my energy and my brain.
I am right around the Median age of the band and maybe after years of angst and the Bush Administration and other things to throw stones at, perhaps like me, it's time to reflect on the good things in life like having kids and family. I hear a lot of that in here. Mortality too which is something on my mind as well. They still rock it out but in a more refined way. Kind of like a fine wine.
Curious to see if those that don't like it as much fall into a younger age bracket.
I am 42...so pretty much the same age as the band. I have been a fan since first sight in '91. I have always tried to explain "the soundtrack of my life" theory to my friends and they just don't get it. But, in all seriousness, every album has lyrically just fit into my life at that given moment in an amazing way.
Good think though...I still like to "rock out" and they still do that. I am a big fan of the Black Crowes too, and have been for about the same amount of time and the Crowes have really settled into a more mature sound that I don't like at all. Pearl Jam still stimulates my energy and my brain.
I am like you. The Crowes still do it for me but I agree about their sound. Just saw them a couple of weeks ago. They are great live and you never know what you are going to get.
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That's what I told the bartender on my 18th birthday. It didn't work.
for the least they could possibly do
I just came back from my run, and one of the songs that popped up on my iPod (amidst all of the PJ and Paul Weller) was Blink-182's "What's My Age Again." Now, even though I am a 40-year-old soccer mom, I always have found Blink-182 to be pretty entertaining. For a while, I really hoped they would become the next Ramones. Today, I found myself thinking about how what might sound amusing and entertaining coming from a guy in his early- to mid-twenties usually seems pretty immature coming from a 40-ish guy, and downright creepy when coming from the mouth of a man in his 60's.
I like the fast songs and the slow songs (and the mid-tempo songs) on Backspacer. I can relate to the slow songs more now than I would have been able to twenty-odd years ago, but then again I have been a fan of Lloyd Cole for nearly twenty years, so I have always had a soft spot for the singer-songwriter style.
The raw anger and emotion on Ten and Vs. is awesome, and makes for some amazing rock music. I think I would find it disturbing if Ed was channeling the same sort of rage now as he was 15-20 years ago, although frankly I am not sure if it is even possible to sustain that level of rage for so long. I can tell you that what I admire most about the band is its collective intelligence. When I look at the band and its music and things have progressed over the years, I see men who had the intelligence and creativity to tackle rage, fame, etc., deal with them in a reasonably healthy (if counter-intuitive to the media) manner, and find a way to survive, thrive and grow up. I see the same sort of maturation that I see in my husband and in other decent, mature men of a certain age. I don't know, maybe I am just babbling, but what I am trying to say is, I think I get it.
Cheers.
the weirdness is entirely possible....;)
however, i don't think i am weird over my thoughts on backspacer.
and curmudgeoness, excellent post! really good points. i definitely see it as natural progression as well. if you can't reach happiness/contentment by middle age....yikes! and yes, let's face it.....the 40s ARe middle age, tho certainly not being 'middle-aged'....;). and i AM very glad they don;t just stick to the formula 'that worked before'....b/c that would be utterly.......boring. i far rather have an album that i don't love start to finish, or that i may see as a bit uneven, but that takes chances, has some new things to say, AND still has some amazing music on it, than the safe route of doing the same old, same old. so while i see the maturity/progression/contentment related to age (tho still not entirely dependent on it
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Well this statement (that I like Ace's album better) isn't a huge stretch for me, given my fandom. But at this point, yeah I do like Ace's better. Doesn't mean I don't like Backspacer though. I think Backspacer is decent after 3 listens. I need to hear it more truthfully before passing judgment and possibly reviewing it properly.
Maybe he just realized that politics weren't the way to change the world
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
perfectly said!
To each his own.
That being said: Holy Christ.
for the least they could possibly do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3m4gvJDrlo
I am 42...so pretty much the same age as the band. I have been a fan since first sight in '91. I have always tried to explain "the soundtrack of my life" theory to my friends and they just don't get it. But, in all seriousness, every album has lyrically just fit into my life at that given moment in an amazing way.
Good think though...I still like to "rock out" and they still do that. I am a big fan of the Black Crowes too, and have been for about the same amount of time and the Crowes have really settled into a more mature sound that I don't like at all. Pearl Jam still stimulates my energy and my brain.