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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:

    I agree 110%. and this CAN be done without government run healthcare. lets figure it out.

    The government I see is stepping in because for decades healthcare has tried to be fixed and nothing’s come of it. so if congress has argued for decades about it, what’s the chance of them cutting the shit and coming together to fix it now? Chances are low.

    They can’t. they have tried and failed. Why give them more time?
    ...
    And if Republican Congressmen want Tort Reform worked into the Bill... then, fucking get off your asses and do the fucking job we are paying you to do. Whimpering about government takeovers while sucking your thumb and curled up in a ball on the floor in the corner isn't helping.
    ...
    Personally... I think Tort Reform is a good thing. There are patients who sue their surgeons (that saved their fucking lives) because they don't want to pay the massive deductible. That also mneeds to be 'reformed'. i want the fuckheads who are acting like bitches to quit being such partisan shitheads and argue this item in.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:

    I agree 110%. and this CAN be done without government run healthcare. lets figure it out.

    The government I see is stepping in because for decades healthcare has tried to be fixed and nothing’s come of it. so if congress has argued for decades about it, what’s the chance of them cutting the shit and coming together to fix it now? Chances are low.

    They can’t. they have tried and failed. Why give them more time?
    ...
    And if Republican Congressmen want Tort Reform worked into the Bill... then, fucking get off your asses and do the fucking job we are paying you to do. Whimpering about government takeovers while sucking your thumb and curled up in a ball on the floor in the corner isn't helping.
    ...
    Personally... I think Tort Reform is a good thing. There are patients who sue their surgeons (that saved their fucking lives) because they don't want to pay the massive deductible. That also mneeds to be 'reformed'. i want the fuckheads who are acting like bitches to quit being such partisan shitheads and argue this item in.


    The problem is Cosmo that people do get off there asses and try to do something about it but the government makes them feel like there not heard.as Obama said" don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media" thats not how this country is supposed to be run.we're supposed to be heard and respected from all angles. And on your last post about U.S Postal service and UPS. I work at UPS and I work really freakin hard, pay my union dues and therefore the union gives me insurance...not UPS. But all i'm hearing about this government run Health Care that people are so in favor for is that i'm going to lose that. If people want good benifits how about instead of getting off there asses and screaming at the government about H.C so they can get it for nothing(or from the people that work for it)how about they get off there asses and go to college and get a good job and get it for themselves!! that would be 1 point for me seeing how people are keeping score.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    jlew24asu wrote:

    I agree 110%. and this CAN be done without government run healthcare. lets figure it out.

    The government I see is stepping in because for decades healthcare has tried to be fixed and nothing’s come of it. so if congress has argued for decades about it, what’s the chance of them cutting the shit and coming together to fix it now? Chances are low.

    They can’t. they have tried and failed. Why give them more time?


    hmmmm...isn't medicare run by the government?and ummmm, isn't it going broke?so fuck it, lets make them captain of the whole ship....we'll all go down together.
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    edited September 2009
    mb262200 wrote:
    The problem is Cosmo that people do get off there asses and try to do something about it but the government makes them feel like there not heard.as Obama said" don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media" thats not how this country is supposed to be run.we're supposed to be heard and respected from all angles.

    You know why we the people by the people doesn’t apply anymore?
    Money.
    Fat cats and lobbys make nearly all the decisions in DC.
    We need to take it back.
    How?
    Post edited by blondieblue227 on
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    The problem is Cosmo that people do get off there asses and try to do something about it but the government makes them feel like there not heard.as Obama said" don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media" thats not how this country is supposed to be run.we're supposed to be heard and respected from all angles. And on your last post about U.S Postal service and UPS. I work at UPS and I work really freakin hard, pay my union dues and therefore the union gives me insurance...not UPS. But all i'm hearing about this government run Health Care that people are so in favor for is that i'm going to lose that. If people want good benifits how about instead of getting off there asses and screaming at the government about H.C so they can get it for nothing(or from the people that work for it)how about they get off there asses and go to college and get a good job and get it for themselves!! that would be 1 point for me seeing how people are keeping score.
    ...
    I searched a couple of ways and can't find a thing on this quote:
    "don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media"
    So, you are going to have to post up a reference on it so I can verify that it is true. Otherwise, i am left with no alternative but to believe you are just making it up to support your view.
    Subtact 10 points for 'making shit up'
    ...
    Now... you work for UPS. Are you guys going out of business because of the Post Office? The Post Office is offering Americans a Public Option regarding package delivery. Why doesn't everyone just got to the post office to save money?
    Also... what happens if you leave UPS? Are you still in the Union? Do you still pay dues and receive Health Care Insurance?
    And what about the person who did go to college... found a job at a small business (who don't have Union protection and cannot afford to pay for Health Care Insurance fror their workers)? Let's say, they slip in their bathroom and crack a vertebrae and cannot work?
    You say, "Fuck Them'... i want to help them.
    How many points to you score for that one?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The problem is Cosmo that people do get off there asses and try to do something about it but the government makes them feel like there not heard.as Obama said" don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media" thats not how this country is supposed to be run.we're supposed to be heard and respected from all angles. And on your last post about U.S Postal service and UPS. I work at UPS and I work really freakin hard, pay my union dues and therefore the union gives me insurance...not UPS. But all i'm hearing about this government run Health Care that people are so in favor for is that i'm going to lose that. If people want good benifits how about instead of getting off there asses and screaming at the government about H.C so they can get it for nothing(or from the people that work for it)how about they get off there asses and go to college and get a good job and get it for themselves!! that would be 1 point for me seeing how people are keeping score.
    ...
    I searched a couple of ways and can't find a thing on this quote:
    "don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media"
    So, you are going to have to post up a reference on it so I can verify that it is true. Otherwise, i am left with no alternative but to believe you are just making it up to support your view.
    Subtact 10 points for 'making shit up'
    ...
    Now... you work for UPS. Are you guys going out of business because of the Post Office? The Post Office is offering Americans a Public Option regarding package delivery. Why doesn't everyone just got to the post office to save money?
    Also... what happens if you leave UPS? Are you still in the Union? Do you still pay dues and receive Health Care Insurance?
    And what about the person who did go to college... found a job at a small business (who don't have Union protection and cannot afford to pay for Health Care Insurance fror their workers)? Let's say, they slip in their bathroom and crack a vertebrae and cannot work?
    You say, "Fuck Them'... i want to help them.
    How many points to you score for that one?


    I only saw it on FOXNEWS as a clip....but i'm sure they found all kinds of clips where Obamas wearing the same suit, has the same background, and is in the same building and cut them all up and put them together to make it LOOK like he was saying that....silly me. Of course you haven't seen it because you don't watch or listen to anything that doesn't agrree with you (i'm gathering).That's where the liberal main stream media comes in, they don't show it...so you don't see it.Oh but wait i'm sorry,you don't watch the news..i forgot...you have some magical way of getting all the answers and there all true..i'm sorry
  • mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The problem is Cosmo that people do get off there asses and try to do something about it but the government makes them feel like there not heard.as Obama said" don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media" thats not how this country is supposed to be run.we're supposed to be heard and respected from all angles. And on your last post about U.S Postal service and UPS. I work at UPS and I work really freakin hard, pay my union dues and therefore the union gives me insurance...not UPS. But all i'm hearing about this government run Health Care that people are so in favor for is that i'm going to lose that. If people want good benifits how about instead of getting off there asses and screaming at the government about H.C so they can get it for nothing(or from the people that work for it)how about they get off there asses and go to college and get a good job and get it for themselves!! that would be 1 point for me seeing how people are keeping score.
    ...
    I searched a couple of ways and can't find a thing on this quote:
    "don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media"
    So, you are going to have to post up a reference on it so I can verify that it is true. Otherwise, i am left with no alternative but to believe you are just making it up to support your view.
    Subtact 10 points for 'making shit up'
    ...
    Now... you work for UPS. Are you guys going out of business because of the Post Office? The Post Office is offering Americans a Public Option regarding package delivery. Why doesn't everyone just got to the post office to save money?
    Also... what happens if you leave UPS? Are you still in the Union? Do you still pay dues and receive Health Care Insurance?
    And what about the person who did go to college... found a job at a small business (who don't have Union protection and cannot afford to pay for Health Care Insurance fror their workers)? Let's say, they slip in their bathroom and crack a vertebrae and cannot work?
    You say, "Fuck Them'... i want to help them.
    How many points to you score for that one?


    I only saw it on FOXNEWS as a clip....but i'm sure they found all kinds of clips where Obamas wearing the same suit, has the same background, and is in the same building and cut them all up and put them together to make it LOOK like he was saying that....silly me. Of course you haven't seen it because you don't watch or listen to anything that doesn't agrree with you (i'm gathering).That's where the liberal main stream media comes in, they don't show it...so you don't see it.Oh but wait i'm sorry,you don't watch the news..i forgot...you have some magical way of getting all the answers and there all true..i'm sorry


    does Fox have transcripts like the other networks?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    The problem is Cosmo that people do get off there asses and try to do something about it but the government makes them feel like there not heard.as Obama said" don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media" thats not how this country is supposed to be run.we're supposed to be heard and respected from all angles. And on your last post about U.S Postal service and UPS. I work at UPS and I work really freakin hard, pay my union dues and therefore the union gives me insurance...not UPS. But all i'm hearing about this government run Health Care that people are so in favor for is that i'm going to lose that. If people want good benifits how about instead of getting off there asses and screaming at the government about H.C so they can get it for nothing(or from the people that work for it)how about they get off there asses and go to college and get a good job and get it for themselves!! that would be 1 point for me seeing how people are keeping score.
    ...
    I searched a couple of ways and can't find a thing on this quote:
    "don't pay any attention to them protesters,there not in main stream media"
    So, you are going to have to post up a reference on it so I can verify that it is true. Otherwise, i am left with no alternative but to believe you are just making it up to support your view.
    Subtact 10 points for 'making shit up'
    ...
    Now... you work for UPS. Are you guys going out of business because of the Post Office? The Post Office is offering Americans a Public Option regarding package delivery. Why doesn't everyone just got to the post office to save money?
    Also... what happens if you leave UPS? Are you still in the Union? Do you still pay dues and receive Health Care Insurance?
    And what about the person who did go to college... found a job at a small business (who don't have Union protection and cannot afford to pay for Health Care Insurance fror their workers)? Let's say, they slip in their bathroom and crack a vertebrae and cannot work?
    You say, "Fuck Them'... i want to help them.
    How many points to you score for that one?


    I only saw it on FOXNEWS as a clip....but i'm sure they found all kinds of clips where Obamas wearing the same suit, has the same background, and is in the same building and cut them all up and put them together to make it LOOK like he was saying that....silly me. Of course you haven't seen it because you don't watch or listen to anything that doesn't agrree with you (i'm gathering).That's where the liberal main stream media comes in, they don't show it...so you don't see it.Oh but wait i'm sorry,you don't watch the news..i forgot...you have some magical way of getting all the answers and there all true..i'm sorry
    ...
    Do you know that there are Presidential Transcripts? All prepared speeches are recorded and transcripts made avaliable. If you wanted Lincoln's Gettysberg's Address, Kennedy's Inaguration speech or Harding's State of the Union... it's there, in the Library of Congress or www.whitehouse.gov . If Obama said this... it's recorded somewhere.
    Here is one place to look:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/Remarks/

    You need to let me know what was said, or where I can locate the source... otherwise, you leave me no alternative than to believe you are just making shit up.
    Also... you don't know me very well, do you? Did you know I listen to Rush Limbaugh? I watch Sean Hannity? I don't buy into their shit because they are like you... they take one sentence and parade it out of context. When you read the entire piece, with the sentence in context of the idea... you get a clearer, less slanted version and can form an objective opinion.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    I don't watch Rush or Hannity. I agree with you totaly. But I do watch Glenn Beck. Watch him for me and give me some input on stuff he says. I would really like to hear it. And i'm being serious not sarcastic. I want to hear a democrats outtake on some of Becks beliefs. "The New Republic"
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.
    ...
    Then, can you at LEAST direct me to the FOX video... so, I can try to find out the source of the video?
    ...
    And what is the difference if you get your news solely from FOX... as someone gets their News solely from MSNBC? You would both argue that your station was the truth... or at least, more truth than the other's. Who would be true to an outsider, like myself? Why should I believe you, instead of the other guy?
    Your opinion about FOX News is subjective... they say things you agree with... therefore, it must be true, right? The same hold true for the MSNBC guy.... he hears stuff he agrees with, so MSNBC is his truth.
    Is yours the truth or is the other guy's the truth?
    Answer: Neither. Both are slanted. The only way you get the truth is by gong to the original source and seeing for yourself instead of relying on someone else to tell you through their personal interpretations.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.
    ...
    Then, can you at LEAST direct me to the FOX video... so, I can try to find out the source of the video?
    ...
    And what is the difference if you get your news solely from FOX... as someone gets their News solely from MSNBC? You would both argue that your station was the truth... or at least, more truth than the other's. Who would be true to an outsider, like myself? Why should I believe you, instead of the other guy?
    Your opinion about FOX News is subjective... they say things you agree with... therefore, it must be true, right? The same hold true for the MSNBC guy.... he hears stuff he agrees with, so MSNBC is his truth.
    Is yours the truth or is the other guy's the truth?
    Answer: Neither. Both are slanted. The only way you get the truth is by gong to the original source and seeing for yourself instead of relying on someone else to tell you through their personal interpretations.


    as far as i'm concerned Glenn Beck is the only person worth watching. But none of you watch him so nobody even has the right to comment on this....watch the Glenn Beck show and then give me your views. Awesome show tonight...totaly nailed MSNBC in doctoring a video at an Obama convention.....still laughing my ass off....sorry, but I really have no respect for MSNBC..." The Fringe Media"
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    as far as i'm concerned Glenn Beck is the only person worth watching. But none of you watch him so nobody even has the right to comment on this....watch the Glenn Beck show and then give me your views. Awesome show tonight...totaly nailed MSNBC in doctoring a video at an Obama convention.....still laughing my ass off....sorry, but I really have no respect for MSNBC..." The Fringe Media"
    ....
    A Single source for all your information needs... to make informed choices on election day... and Glen Beck, you say...
    ...
    o... kay...
    ...
    Good luck with that.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • mb262200 wrote:
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.


    if it's not made up what is Fox waiting for? if they have video and audio of Obama saying something like that and the official transcripts are edited to omit that part it seems like that would be powerful ammo for them to discredit Obama or at least him talking 'jive'
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.
    ...
    Then, can you at LEAST direct me to the FOX video... so, I can try to find out the source of the video?
    ...
    And what is the difference if you get your news solely from FOX... as someone gets their News solely from MSNBC? You would both argue that your station was the truth... or at least, more truth than the other's. Who would be true to an outsider, like myself? Why should I believe you, instead of the other guy?
    Your opinion about FOX News is subjective... they say things you agree with... therefore, it must be true, right? The same hold true for the MSNBC guy.... he hears stuff he agrees with, so MSNBC is his truth.
    Is yours the truth or is the other guy's the truth?
    Answer: Neither. Both are slanted. The only way you get the truth is by gong to the original source and seeing for yourself instead of relying on someone else to tell you through their personal interpretations.


    as far as i'm concerned Glenn Beck is the only person worth watching. But none of you watch him so nobody even has the right to comment on this....watch the Glenn Beck show and then give me your views. Awesome show tonight...totaly nailed MSNBC in doctoring a video at an Obama convention.....still laughing my ass off....sorry, but I really have no respect for MSNBC..." The Fringe Media"


    i used to watch Glenn Beck when he was on CNN, now i have no idea when he's on on Fox. do you believe, like Beck, that "we need to drill for oil anywhere it is, even if it means drilling right through a polar bear's head"?

    have you the documentary 'The Corporation'? there's a good part about Fox News in it

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw
    "Journalists Jane Akre and Steve Wilson were fired by the Fox News television station they work for after refusing to change their investigative report on Posilac, a Bovine Growth Hormone (BGH) made by Monsanto. Their research documents potential health and safety problems of drinking milk treated with the synthetic hormone, but threatened with legal action from Monsanto, Fox wants the negative effects played down."
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • Posted for the audio, not so much for the imagery, Howard Beale's speech with Metallica's Damage Inc. in the background:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Knd6y79KU

    I wish we could all agree on one thing, and that's to be angry enough to want to change things. I wish the "right" would join in on the anger at the anti-war protests, I wish the "left" would come out to the tea parties-- I would love it if everyone could put their partisanship aside and LOUDLY demand more of our elected officials. At this point, I don't think our letters are being read, or our phone calls are being answered-- so, what is next? Getting louder, and more in their faces. Can everyone be loud and eloquent at the same time? Probably not, but everyone should at least TRY. If anyone has a problem with screaming a little to make a political statement, they may want to stop listening to rock music all together.


    didn't watch the clip, don't do youtube at work....but the quote is a great one!
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.


    if it's not made up what is Fox waiting for? if they have video and audio of Obama saying something like that and the official transcripts are edited to omit that part it seems like that would be powerful ammo for them to discredit Obama or at least him talking 'jive'


    what do you mean what are they waiting for....what the hell are they suposed to do, what the hell can they do besides show it. It shouldn't be all that shocking, Obama has put down and belittled anybody with a republican opinion many many times, if you watched the campaign you know that. What happened to the President showing respect to both sides of the aisle. Love the lady at the town hall meeting..."when I speak with objection, I demand respect" that's what it's all about.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,915
    mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    sent by rush :lol::lol::lol::lol: dude you are so far left you don't even make sense.
    ...
    Here's some more 'Leftist' stuff that won't make any sense to you...
    I wonder... how many people are complaining about Heatlh Care reform... already have Health Care?
    And where do they get their Health Care from?
    An Employer? What happens if you get laid off?
    A parent's Employer? What happens when you turn 18?
    Did they buy a policy? What did that cost and does it increase over the years?
    And...
    Why is it that people are against 'entitlement' programs... yet, graciously accept Medicare/Medicaid for themselves or an elderly parent? Isn't Medicare a Socialist Entitlement Program?
    And the people who complain about the poor people... you know, lazy and don't want to get a job and just want a free government handout. Then, they tell me about how charitable they are towards the needy and less fortunate... aren't they the same poor, lazy people who are looking for a free handout? Why are they giving them money... and oppose to their tax dollars going to the poor? How does THAT work?


    Cosmo would you stop fucking ranting that republicans don't want health care reform. They simply do not want Public Option because they don't want the government to control it. Why don't you feel that way...you want a government run health care?? Your freakin democrats want to prosecute republicans while your freakin Obama hires a Treasury of State that doesn't even pay his taxes....but he works for Obama so thats o.k.......alright, now i'm ranting

    Bill O'Reilly is apparantly in favor of the Public Option

    http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002154/
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    mb262200 wrote:
    Obama has put down and belittled anybody with a republican opinion many many times, if you watched the campaign you know that. What happened to the President showing respect to both sides of the aisle.

    Who? Quote?

    I’ve heard Obama say his door is open. Anybody with an idea he’ll listen to.

    Has Congress explored the idea of expanding free clinics?
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • mb262200 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    I checked out your link. I don't believe the white house would release such a stupid statement. I know you don't like FOXNEWS, theres alot on there that I don't like...but I proomise you, you'll find out stuff about our government that NO OTHER news channel will ever tell you. I don't make shit up, if I said it I heard it or saw it.....but it doesn't mean it's all true, we all know that.


    if it's not made up what is Fox waiting for? if they have video and audio of Obama saying something like that and the official transcripts are edited to omit that part it seems like that would be powerful ammo for them to discredit Obama or at least him talking 'jive'


    what do you mean what are they waiting for....what the hell are they suposed to do, what the hell can they do besides show it. It shouldn't be all that shocking, Obama has put down and belittled anybody with a republican opinion many many times, if you watched the campaign you know that. What happened to the President showing respect to both sides of the aisle. Love the lady at the town hall meeting..."when I speak with objection, I demand respect" that's what it's all about.


    they could make it news that Obama made a statement and then erased it from public record.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!
    We will all be paying for it.. And?

    People in Canada (mostly) don't mind the fact we'll all be paying for it, it means our neighbour gets healthcare even if he has no job.

    Good thing in my books.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!


    so you agree with Glenn Beck that we must drill for oil wherever we can even if it causes the polar bears to be extinct? i loved his quote about we should even drill through a polar bears head if we have to and they are cute and all but this is our way of life
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!


    so you agree with Glenn Beck that we must drill for oil wherever we can even if it causes the polar bears to be extinct? i loved his quote about we should even drill through a polar bears head if we have to and they are cute and all but this is our way of life

    Do you really think someone wants to drill thru the head of a polar bear...and how will they become extinct if we drill for oil? Do you want to be Dependent on foreign countries that hate us and hate our cultures?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerial wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!


    so you agree with Glenn Beck that we must drill for oil wherever we can even if it causes the polar bears to be extinct? i loved his quote about we should even drill through a polar bears head if we have to and they are cute and all but this is our way of life





    Do you really think someone wants to drill thru the head of a polar bear...and how will they become extinct if we drill for oil? Do you want to be Dependent on foreign countries that hate us and hate our cultures?


    a simple yes or no will do....

    oil is far too wasteful and polluting, maybe instead of subsidizing the oil and nuclear industries we should subsidie actual alternatives
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • aerial wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!


    so you agree with Glenn Beck that we must drill for oil wherever we can even if it causes the polar bears to be extinct? i loved his quote about we should even drill through a polar bears head if we have to and they are cute and all but this is our way of life

    Do you really think someone wants to drill thru the head of a polar bear...and how will they become extinct if we drill for oil? Do you want to be Dependent on foreign countries that hate us and hate our cultures?

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/e ... 987891.ece
    Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor

    The polar bear should be removed from the endangered species list because its protected status will hamper drilling for oil and gas in Alaska, the state's Republican Governor has demanded.

    Sarah Palin is suing the Bush Administration over its decision last week to place the animal under the protection of the Endangered Species Act, claiming that climate models predicting the continued loss of sea ice - the main habitat of polar bears - are unreliable.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23297400/
    In Alaska, it's polar bears vs. oil wells

    Glenn Beck's take

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articl ... 198/10002/

    our kids are like, "Poor little polar bears," and nobody's even talking about the facts. Nobody talks about the facts at all. "Poor little polar bears." Let's use the polar bear to our advantage. Guys, listen to me. You want that big screen TV? You want the plasma TV? Yes or no? Your wife... (mumbling). "Honey. Honey, I was listening to the show. I heard a commercial.......

    -- honey, it's not just the polar bears. It's our children. I really don't want a 60-inch plasma. I mean, we could -- you know, we could do the 40-inch but shouldn't we really, for our kids, for the polar bears. Shouldn't we go for the 60?


    from Glenn Beck's online store:
    https://members.premiereinteractive.com ... 1UU0hJUlRT

    Polar Bear T-shirt

    Let everyone know what a sick, twisted freak you are without ever opening your mouth. Place your order for the "Drill Through Their @$$...For Cheaper Gas." shirt, and get ready to start alienating strangers. Polar bears are cute and everything, but "cute" don't fill your gas tank.

    bear-big.jpg

    Drill Alaska Shirt

    Why should the "pretty" states get a free-pass when it comes to drilling for oil? Just because you have snow capped mountains and exotic wildlife doesn't mean you can't play host to a few drilling fields. Luckily, Evil Conservative Industries has developed a new t-shirt that lets you express your opinion loud and clear: "Screw the Caribou – Drill Alaska".

    This is the second in our "Environmentally Unfriendly" line of shirts, following our bestselling "No Clean Air and Water" shirt. Together, these shirts help any nature-hating, money-grubbing, capitalist-pig Evil Conservative advertise their stance on the environment. Get yours today! (No portion of the proceeds are contributed to any noble cause and Evil Conservative Industries absolutely guarantees that you will not be helping anyone or anything with this purchase, except Glenn).

    drillbig.jpg

    and lastly from his program:
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... gb.01.html

    BECK: Anybody notice the price of oil? Kind of weird. We seem to have forgotten all about the whole energy thing. Alternative energy ideas, maybe we should be still looking into that and drilling. We should be drilling through anything and everything to get the oil that`s left, and that includes polar bears` heads. I`m just saying.

    We should also be leading the world -- that`s what America does
    .....


    Then the market has to decide what eventually wins and what loses, not the politicians. Otherwise we end up with a little something that efficiently powers lobbyists and not cars, like corn ethanol. Call me crazy.

    Second rule is to stop pretending that the first rule is going to be quick or easy. It`s not. We should know from experience that government almost always screws things up, and even if they don`t, we still have to deal with the spotted owl lovers who are like oh, and they can no longer sit in those beautiful trees.

    Oh, shut the pie hole.

    so....do you agree with him?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    anybody who gets there "news" from Beck needs their voting rights taken away along with their testicles. They shouldn't breed.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!
    ...
    You are one lay-off away from losing your health care... you know that, right?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!
    ...
    You are one lay-off away from losing your health care... you know that, right?
    i dunno, but after reading this thread, is seems to me that pychosinlove may be back :D
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Glen Beck has not be proven wrong yet...if not for him Van Jones one of Obamas advisers, the self proclaimed communist radical that believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods would not have been made to resign....if not for Glen calling out Acorn they would still be spending millions of our tax dollars on seedy projects. I hope everyone will watch him...he has begged anyone to prove him wrong....he has stated several times he hopes he is wrong.....Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites (god haven’t we gotten over the racist crap yet?) And promotes communistic views...this guy just wants power! Mothers with children have health care its called welfare...I was on it one time. I now have a job I hate, but I love the benefits. So get a job with benefits if you want health care. Don’t think for a minute Obama health care will be free...we will all be paying for it!
    ...
    You are new here... I thought you should know... we aren't very trusting here. That's to say, we don't take things we read on face value... like too many people do. I mean, just because something is said on T.V. doesn't mean it's true. I'm probably the worst of the bunch... I admit it, i have trust issues.
    So, can you send me to some verification to the following points you are trying to make:
    1. "[Van Jones] believes white people are putting toxins in black neighborhoods." Source, please.
    2. "Obama was put in to office by some other machine a machine that hates whites" What machine?
    3. "[President Obama] promotes communistic views" Example of Communistic views.
    I searched, couldn't find it. I knew about the '9-11 Truthers' and his association with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM) and calling Republicans 'assholes'... but, the other three... I need you to direct me to them (and don't bother sending me to the New Republic Forum Board).
    Regarding racism... Racism will stop when people stop being racist. NOTE: You can save the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton speech because I am refering to them, too.
    And don't bother calling me a 'Kool-aid drinking nigger lover'... I'm not a full on supporter of President Obama. I am looking for Truth.
    ...
    Finally... you admit to be on a Publicly Funded Entitlement Program yourself... and this comment, "Mothers with children have health care its called welfare" means that you had Public Health Care, right? How was the quality of that Health Care? Would you recommend it or say it is adequate? Or does it need to be fixed?
    You no longer need it... so, now it is bad? Was it bad when you were taking it in? Are you paying back all of the free handout money you and your family accepted when you were on the Government dole? And don't say, "I pay taxes, now". You were getting the taxes that I was paying. I was never on Welfare... I was paying for you. If you're so critical of 'Socialism'... shouldn't you be paying back what you took out?
    ...
    Thank you for your cooperation.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
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