The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2009
    slightofjeff wrote:
    You make fun of "normals" like me and jlew, saying we'll "believe what anyone tells us." A random 48-year-old businessman from Houston is about as "anyone" as it gets.

    When have I ever said that I regard Jlew as normal?
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    slightofjeff wrote:
    What it boils down to is, you'll believe anyone who says something that fits your proconceived notion of what is true.

    I don't possess a pre-conceived notion of what is 'true'. But I do know what the U.S government/power elites are capable of. History is a wonderful teacher.
    And the case of 9/11 there are so many lies and omissions surrounding the official story that I think anyone who doesn't suspect something is up with it is being dishonest to themselves.

    slightofjeff wrote:
    Which brings us to No. 3 -- The Taliban went on television mere hours after the towers fell. I watched it, live. If they really HAD tried to offer up bin Laden, why no mention of it then? Seems like that would have been a good point to make to a worldwide audience. Maybe they just forgot. It was a pretty hectic day, after all.

    Maybe nobody asked them to. Or maybe nobody had presented any evidence that Bin Laden was responsible? - Something that never happened, even to this day.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Maybe nobody asked them to. Or maybe nobody had presented any evidence that Bin Laden was responsible? - Something that never happened, even to this day.

    Maybe nobody asked them to? I swear to God, if I were looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, and the world was saying, "Give up bin Laden, or die" ... nobody would have to ASK me to volunteer the fact that I'd already tried to hand him over. It would sort of be the first fucking words out my mouth.

    Nobody asked them to? Are you serious?

    You're right about nobody presenting evidence that Bin Laden was responsible ... except for bin Laden himself. The guy fucking confessed. What more do you want? Maybe he can come to your house and show you his diary. Would that help?

    This is the part I can't get over. The guy tried to take down the towers once and failed, vowed repeatedly to do it again, did it again and succeeded, and people don't believe him.

    It's like your neighbor tries to shoot you, ends up winging you with a flesh wound, then spends the next eight years telling everybody, "I'm going to kill that motherfucker." Then you turn up dead. Your neighbor says, "Yup, I killed the motherfucker."

    I think most rational people would take his word for it. Instead of saying, you know ... I think the U.S. government did it.


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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Maybe nobody asked them to. Or maybe nobody had presented any evidence that Bin Laden was responsible? - Something that never happened, even to this day.

    Maybe nobody asked them to? I swear to God, if I were looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, and the world was saying, "Give up bin Laden, or die" ... nobody would have to ASK me to volunteer the fact that I'd already tried to hand him over. It would sort of be the first fucking words out my mouth.



    Your previous post stated that : 'The Taliban went on television mere hours after the towers fell. I watched it, live.'

    At what point 'mere hours after the towers fell' did anyone ask the Taliban to hand over Bin Laden? And what 'loaded gun' was pointing at them 'mere hours after the towers fell'? The loaded gun that is Fox News? Or the loaded gun that is NBC news, or Sky news?
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Nobody asked them to? Are you serious?

    Fine. If I'm not serious then you'll have no trouble pointing out to me who did ask them to hand over Bin Laden on t.v 'mere hours after the towers fell'.

    I'll wait patiently for you to enlighten me.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    edited September 2009
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    In addition, the Bush adminstration failed at just about everything they did. From keeping torture quiet to convincing the US about WMD in Iraq. You really think they could pull off the largest mass murder in American history and no one would hear anything 8 years later? You people are fucking morons. Was the 9/11 commission very flawed? Yes, but an inside job? You are out of your fucking minds.


    And not only that National Geographic had a 2 hr show called 911 conspiracy and science where they debunked all of Dr.Ray Griffin's and the 911 truthers claims on how they think the Towers were brought down. It made them look like a bunch of fools. I couldn't stop laughing. Every time they debunked one of their claims all they would say is Oh that's irrelevant or that's ridiculous. It was a damn joke.

    http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/9-11-science-and-conspiracy-4067/Overview
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    prfctlefts wrote:
    And not only that National Geographic had a 2 hr show called 911 conspiracy and science where they debunked all of Dr.Ray Griffith's and the 911 truthers claims on how they think the Towers were brought down. It made them look like a bunch of fools. I couldn't stop laughing. Every time they debunked one of their claims all they would say is Oh that's irrelevant or that's ridiculous. It was a damn joke.

    National Geographic - or was it discovery? - also aired a show in which they claimed to debunk the 'conspiracy theories' surrounding the murder of JFK, and it was all just a whitewash. They debunked nothing but just made themselves lose credibility and look ridiculous.
    It makes you wonder who pays their wages.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Im not saying that I don't think there are some questions that still need to be answered but to for some of these people to think that we were attacked deliberately by our own gov. is ludachrist. It's been 8 years since we were attacked if this crap were true somebody would have came forward. There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people
    There's no way it could be kept quiet, It all comes down to CIA and the Feds not cooperating with each other and sharing info period.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,246
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im not saying that I don't think there are some questions that still need to be answered but to for some of these people to think that we were attacked deliberately by our own gov. is ludachrist. It's been 8 years since we were attacked if this crap were true somebody would have came forward. There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people
    There's no way it could be kept quiet, It all comes down to CIA and the Feds not cooperating with each other and sharing info period.

    Not saying none of what you stated is not true but we're humans and if more than enough money is paid mouths could be easily shut.

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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    prfctlefts wrote:
    There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people.
    it didn't seem to bother bush and co. they were quite ok with murdering innocent civilians form Iraq and Afghanistan.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im not saying that I don't think there are some questions that still need to be answered but to for some of these people to think that we were attacked deliberately by our own gov. is ludachrist. It's been 8 years since we were attacked if this crap were true somebody would have came forward. There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people
    There's no way it could be kept quiet, It all comes down to CIA and the Feds not cooperating with each other and sharing info period.

    I don't think that you were attacked by your own government, though I do believe that they allowed the attacks to happen.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    edited September 2009
    Byrnzie wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im not saying that I don't think there are some questions that still need to be answered but to for some of these people to think that we were attacked deliberately by our own gov. is ludachrist. It's been 8 years since we were attacked if this crap were true somebody would have came forward. There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people
    There's no way it could be kept quiet, It all comes down to CIA and the Feds not cooperating with each other and sharing info period.

    I don't think that you were attacked by your own government, though I do believe that they allowed the attacks to happen.

    which has been proven to be false time and time again.

    not to mention this coming from someone who believes bombs were planted in WTC and a missile hit the pentagon. your kind have people a laughing stock since being discredited so many times over
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    i believe they failed to act on information that could have averted the attacks and have lied to try and cover that up.

    i do not believe that the government carried out the attacks.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    i believe they failed to act on information that could have averted the attacks and have lied to try and cover that up.

    thats true. but they failed to act because of ignorance and incompetence. then the facts were spun to make themselves look less stupid.
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    jlew24asu wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    i believe they failed to act on information that could have averted the attacks and have lied to try and cover that up.

    thats true. but they failed to act because of ignorance and incompetence. then the facts were spun to make themselves look less stupid.
    less stupid, and, they completely underestimated the intellect of their people, by thinking that we wouldn't see this. how insulting.

    you know the saying 'fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me'?

    i question everything and don't just accept what i'm told from one source, i educate myself and then i make my own informed decision. i know plenty of others do the same.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    So now I'm accused of being "...someone who believes that bombs were planted in WTC and a missile hit the pentagon.'"

    Hilarious!

    What would be even funnier is if this baiting troll could provide any evidence to support this accusation.
  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people.
    it didn't seem to bother bush and co. they were quite ok with murdering innocent civilians form Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Really.... that's funny because it must not seem to bother Obama much either. and not to mention the dems that voted for the wars when bush was in office
  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    prfctlefts wrote:
    TriumphantAngel wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people.
    it didn't seem to bother bush and co. they were quite ok with murdering innocent civilians form Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Really.... that's funny because it doesn't seem to bother Obama either and not to mention the dems that voted for the wars when bush was in office
    i'm not arguing that..i said bush and co..duh...

    you said There's no way any man or woman with any kind of conscious could live with themselves knowing that they helped murder 3000 innocent people., i proved you wrong. i don't care if it's batman who made the call.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    So now I'm accused of being "...someone who believes that bombs were planted in WTC and a missile hit the pentagon.'"

    Hilarious!

    What would be even funnier is if this baiting troll could provide any evidence to support this accusation.

    its not an accusation. you've stated many times before. if I'm wrong, say so.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    You see, no evidence. Just more baiting gibberish.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You see, no evidence. Just more baiting gibberish.

    is this a court room?

    do you sir believe bombs were planted in WTC?

    do you sir believe a plane hit the Pentagon?

    I have no further questions your honor.

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