Why Hitler Failed

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Byrnzie, why do you hate America so much?

    For the same reason that I love eating Venutian pineapples.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Byrnzie, why do you hate America so much?

    envy most likely. everyone likes to hate the best. usually starts with being picked on as a child.
    :roll:

    you are such a troll jlew.

    i've never seen byrnzies posts as 'hating america'. i agree with some of the things he has to say. that doesn't make me a hater.

    personally i think there's lots to love about America, but that doesn't mean i can't be ashamed of their actions sometimes. i don't understand why you feel like you do, that when anyone speaks out about some injustice or wrong that they feel has been committed by the government, they are accused of hating America. Patriotism has never been blind allegiance to people or policy. Patriotism is loyalty to an ideal - to principle. So if i feel that an injustice has been committed, or our ideals or principles have been betrayed, i can't help but to speak out in defense of them. I speak out to preserve what I feel is great. I speak out because of what I love about this country, not out of hate.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jlew24asu wrote:
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Byrnzie, why do you hate America so much?

    envy most likely. everyone likes to hate the best. usually starts with being picked on as a child.
    :roll:

    you are such a troll jlew.

    i've never seen byrnzies posts as 'hating america'. i agree with some of the things he has to say. that doesn't make me a hater.

    personally i think there's lots to love about America, but that doesn't mean i can't be ashamed of their actions sometimes. i don't understand why you feel like you do, that when anyone speaks out about some injustice or wrong that they feel has been committed by the government, they are accused of hating America. Patriotism has never been blind allegiance to people or policy. Patriotism is loyalty to an ideal - to principle. So if i feel that an injustice has been committed, or our ideals or principles have been betrayed, i can't help but to speak out in defense of them. I speak out to preserve what I feel is great. I speak out because of what I love about this country, not out of hate.


    are you new here? first of all Byzine isn't American. second of all, nearly ALL of his posts and threads are negative about America. his blatant Anti-American bias is obvious and he'll even admit it.

    there is a big difference between loving your country and wanted to right its wrongs. which is something you or I might do. what he does is completely different.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    nearly ALL of his posts and threads are negative about America. his blatant Anti-American bias is obvious and he'll even admit it.

    O.k, your persistent baiting of me has worked. I'm biting.

    The M.T is a political section of the board. It's a place to discuss politics. Much of American politics and foreign policy is ugly. Why the fuck should I or anyone else sing it's praises?

    Secondly, I regard the term Anti-American as an absurdity, as I've pointed out before. Only morons use this term, as it's simply a way of deflecting any and all criticism.

    Anyone who wants to know what I think about America can look at ALL of my posts across the message board - not just my posts about America on the M.T as they relate to politics.

    And as far as admitting that I hate America, when are you going to admit that you tortured a kitten and then cooked it in a microwave oven?

    I've never admitted to hating America, and I never will..because the very idea of hating America, or any other country, is ridiculous.

    Anyway, keep trolling away Jlew, I can see that you're making many new friends here in the process.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:

    O.k, your persistent baiting of me has worked. I'm biting.

    The M.T is a political section of the board. It's a place to discuss politics. Much of American politics and foreign policy is ugly. Why the fuck should I or anyone else sing it's praises?

    well you aren't American, so you have limited knowledge of American politics short of whatever wiki links and far left wing websites China allows you to read.

    and as far as American foreign policy, you like to think it starts and ends with our policy towards Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel. anything and everything else related to our foreign policy is non existent.
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Secondly, I regard the term Anti-American as an absurdity, as I've pointed out before. Only morons use this term, as it's simply a way of deflecting any and all criticism.

    its very convenient to just completely disregard a term because you don't like it
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Anyone who wants to know what I think about America can look at ALL of my posts across the message board - not just my posts about America on the M.T as they relate to politics.

    sorry you're right. you do post alot of Israeli/Palestinian porn. but that always gets turned back to somehow being America's fault for supporting Israel
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And as far as admitting that I hate America, when are you going to admit that you tortured a kitten and then cooked it in a microwave oven?

    I own a cat. he's awesome. not sure what this means?
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I've never admitted to hating America, and I never will..because the very idea of hating America, or any other country, is ridiculous.

    Anyway, keep trolling away Jlew, I can see that you're making many new friends here in the process.

    are you still not sure if a plane hit the pentagon on 9/11?

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Anyone who wants to know what I think about America can look at ALL of my posts across the message board - not just my posts about America on the M.T as they relate to politics.

    sorry you're right. you do post alot of Israeli/Palestinian porn. but that always gets turned back to somehow being America's fault for supporting Israel
    jlew, what's with the 'porn' comment?

    i know the palestinian people are being completely fucked, but it's hardly porn.

    If you consider Byrnzie posting about ordinary Palestinian people, who have first suffered the indignity of having their land stolen from them, then endured 60 years of appalling conditions within Palestine or exile outside it, and sixty years of physical and psychological violence and oppression as being porn, then maybe you need to re think what gets you off.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Anyone who wants to know what I think about America can look at ALL of my posts across the message board - not just my posts about America on the M.T as they relate to politics.

    sorry you're right. you do post alot of Israeli/Palestinian porn. but that always gets turned back to somehow being America's fault for supporting Israel
    jlew, what's with the 'porn' comment?

    i know the palestinian people are being completely fucked, but it's hardly porn.

    If you consider Byrnzie posting about ordinary Palestinian people, who have first suffered the indignity of having their land stolen from them, then endured 60 years of appalling conditions within Palestine or exile outside it, and sixty years of physical and psychological violence and oppression as being porn, then maybe you need to re think what gets you off.
    i don't know, but maybe being a complete jerk to everyone that disagrees with you might qualify as porn. some people seem to get off on that around here.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and as far as American foreign policy, you like to think it starts and ends with our policy towards Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel. anything and everything else related to our foreign policy is non existent.
    jlew, you are so terrible at debating. obviously i know you're mostly not trying to debate but just start some shit and you think it's hilarious that we keep "falling for" your bait, but seriously you really just completely blow at arguing. you always make stupid assumptions like "no americans believe [something]" or like in the above quote "you like to think [something]" when in reality you don't know what anyone's thinking. not to mention the fact that if any of us dared to say something like that to you you go crazy because we're putting words in your mouth.

    anyway your above quote makes perfect sense because the fact that america supports disgusting regimes like those of egypt and saudi arabia does not fall into the category of bad foreign policy. the fact that america tries to isolate anyone who does not do exactly what they want like cuba, venezuela, the palestinian groups, etc, is not bad foreign policy. the fact that america finds it convenient to support oppressed people like those in taiwan when they think it's politically convenient and chooses to ignore those oppressed in places in darfur or palestine when they don't is not bad foreign policy.

    do you think before you type or is it more like takin a shit for you?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    _outlaw wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and as far as American foreign policy, you like to think it starts and ends with our policy towards Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel. anything and everything else related to our foreign policy is non existent.
    jlew, you are so terrible at debating. obviously i know you're mostly not trying to debate but just start some shit and you think it's hilarious that we keep "falling for" your bait, but seriously you really just completely blow at arguing. you always make stupid assumptions like "no americans believe [something]" or like in the above quote "you like to think [something]" when in reality you don't know what anyone's thinking. not to mention the fact that if any of us dared to say something like that to you you go crazy because we're putting words in your mouth.

    anyway your above quote makes perfect sense because the fact that america supports disgusting regimes like those of egypt and saudi arabia does not fall into the category of bad foreign policy. the fact that america tries to isolate anyone who does not do exactly what they want like cuba, venezuela, the palestinian groups, etc, is not bad foreign policy. the fact that america finds it convenient to support oppressed people like those in taiwan when they think it's politically convenient and chooses to ignore those oppressed in places in darfur or palestine when they don't is not bad foreign policy.

    do you think before you type or is it more like takin a shit for you?

    you feel like quite the badass what you get to freely talk shit don't you? message boards are you little outlet to act like a tough guy. cuz in real life you are 5'7 140 pds right? tough so.

    moving on...

    America's foreign policy is highly flawed and never will be perfect. but what is never mentioned, is all the good we do in helping so many nations of the world. its just sad how most on the board like you and bzyine, never have anything good to say..becuase in your eyes, America can do not right....only until we fully support Hamas will you finally change your tune.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Anyone who wants to know what I think about America can look at ALL of my posts across the message board - not just my posts about America on the M.T as they relate to politics.

    sorry you're right. you do post alot of Israeli/Palestinian porn. but that always gets turned back to somehow being America's fault for supporting Israel
    jlew, what's with the 'porn' comment?

    i know the palestinian people are being completely fucked, but it's hardly porn.

    If you consider Byrnzie posting about ordinary Palestinian people, who have first suffered the indignity of having their land stolen from them, then endured 60 years of appalling conditions within Palestine or exile outside it, and sixty years of physical and psychological violence and oppression as being porn, then maybe you need to re think what gets you off.

    have you seen the threads? the level of excitement is orgasmic to some around here.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you feel like quite the badass what you get to freely talk shit don't you? message boards are you little outlet to act like a tough guy. cuz in real life you are 5'7 140 pds right? tough so.
    lol yeah ok, i see you live in chicago as well, if you think you're so bad ass pm me
    becuase in your eyes, America can do not right....only until we fully support Hamas will you finally change your tune.
    i don't even fully support hamas but it's nice to see you make a fool of yourself again

    anyway im done wasting time with you on this thread
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    _outlaw wrote:
    lol yeah ok, i see you live in chicago as well, if you think you're so bad ass pm me

    I do live in Chicago. what are you saying, you want to meet in person? wow look at the message board tough guy at work. is this some sort of threat?
    _outlaw wrote:
    i don't even fully support hamas but it's nice to see you make a fool of yourself again


    I stand corrected. thats the first time you've ever said you don't support Hamas. I'm proud of you.
    _outlaw wrote:
    anyway im done wasting time with you on this thread

    you headed to the gym? is today your heavy day?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    jlew24asu wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and as far as American foreign policy, you like to think it starts and ends with our policy towards Iraq, Afghanistan, and Israel. anything and everything else related to our foreign policy is non existent.
    jlew, you are so terrible at debating. obviously i know you're mostly not trying to debate but just start some shit and you think it's hilarious that we keep "falling for" your bait, but seriously you really just completely blow at arguing. you always make stupid assumptions like "no americans believe [something]" or like in the above quote "you like to think [something]" when in reality you don't know what anyone's thinking. not to mention the fact that if any of us dared to say something like that to you you go crazy because we're putting words in your mouth.

    anyway your above quote makes perfect sense because the fact that america supports disgusting regimes like those of egypt and saudi arabia does not fall into the category of bad foreign policy. the fact that america tries to isolate anyone who does not do exactly what they want like cuba, venezuela, the palestinian groups, etc, is not bad foreign policy. the fact that america finds it convenient to support oppressed people like those in taiwan when they think it's politically convenient and chooses to ignore those oppressed in places in darfur or palestine when they don't is not bad foreign policy.

    do you think before you type or is it more like takin a shit for you?

    you feel like quite the badass what you get to freely talk shit don't you? message boards are you little outlet to act like a tough guy. cuz in real life you are 5'7 140 pds right? tough so.

    moving on...

    America's foreign policy is highly flawed and never will be perfect. but what is never mentioned, is all the good we do in helping so many nations of the world. its just sad how most on the board like you and bzyine, never have anything good to say..becuase in your eyes, America can do not right....only until we fully support Hamas will you finally change your tune.
    i thought you were the badass, you are the one on here always berating others and minimizing their opinion because it is different than yours. if the mods will not say anything to you then i will....i have a news flash for you.....breaking news.....your views are no better or more important than anyone else's....as soon as you realize that, i think people will play nice with you. but until then you can continue to make yourself look like a jerk to the rest of the board with your massive ego and superiority/god complex. you accuse me of chest beating in another thread while i was out of town and away from the board for a few days and you are the one talking about a physical confrontation? how laughable...take it easy, calm down fedor, its just a message board...

    i say lets go back to the main purpose of the thread...why hitler failed...but hey, what do i know, i am just a dumbass who likes to lift weights....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    i thought you were the badass, you are the one on here always berating others and minimizing their opinion because it is different than yours. if the mods will not say anything to you then i will....i have a news flash for you.....breaking news.....your views are no better or more important than anyone else's....as soon as you realize that, i think people will play nice with you. but until then you can continue to make yourself look like a jerk to the rest of the board with your massive ego and superiority/god complex. you accuse me of chest beating in another thread while i was out of town and away from the board for a few days and you are the one talking about a physical confrontation? how laughable...take it easy, calm down fedor, its just a message board...

    i say lets go back to the main purpose of the thread...why hitler failed...but hey, what do i know, i am just a dumbass who likes to lift weights....

    you have a little badass, hide behind a message board, complex as well. you sit there and act like some innocent angle. you talk just as much shit as anyone else in this forum. and yes, you do your fair share of chest pounding. how many times are you going to get tough with me, demanding I do research for you? like I owe you something, like its my job to provide you with evidence of this or that. newsflash for you, I don't. its funny how you can dish it, but and push back you cry about it.


    yea great idea. lets talk about why hilter failed. what a stellar thread and discussion. :roll: once we figure out why Hilter failed, we can then apply it to the 4th Reich American empire right?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    if the mods will not say anything to you then i will...

    But this is the problem we have here. The mods keep allowing him to post his crap on here, provoking and insulting everyone, but when anyone stands up to him and/or points out the obvious, then the mods will likely ban you.

    I'm losing a lot of faith in this place.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    if the mods will not say anything to you then i will...

    But this is the problem we have here. The mods keep allowing him to post his crap on here, provoking and insulting everyone, but when anyone stands up to him and/or points out the obvious, then the mods will likely ban you.

    I'm losing a lot of faith in this place.

    I've insulted no one. if you don't like my posts, don't respond to them simple as that. its not my fault you get embarrassed when I call you out on certain things like your cute list of 115 conspiracy "facts". talk about baiting. your response to almost every post was "how about you address the 115 points". well guess what, I did, and make you look rather foolish no? are you really still unsure whether a fucking plane hit the pentagon? I mean, is that a SERIOUS statement?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    And it goes on, and on...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:

    I'm losing a lot of faith in this place.

    I wholeheartedly agree. look at the thread we are in. a fucking Hitler thread. what a great topic. lets discuss again how America made zero difference in Hitler's defeat...and further shit on the 10s of thousands of Americans who lost their lives in the war. by all means, continue.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited September 2009
    jlew24asu wrote:
    of course its flawed you fucking genius

    jlew24asu wrote:
    envy most likely. everyone likes to hate the best. usually starts with being picked on as a child.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    whatever you say buddy. your hate and bias is rather sickening.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    too bad you've fully exposed your disgusting self.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    you feel like quite the badass what you get to freely talk shit don't you? message boards are you little outlet to act like a tough guy. cuz in real life you are 5'7 140 pds right? tough so.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    you headed to the gym? is today your heavy day?

    jlew24asu wrote:
    you talk just as much shit as anyone else in this forum.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    what sucks is the bias and human scum that troll this board.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm sad for people like you.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    not shocking you have nothing to say. do you enjoy being embarrassed like this?


    e.t.c, e.t.c, e.t.c.....all fucking day long.
    Post edited by Byrnzie on
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:

    e.t.c, e.t.c, e.t.c.....all fucking day long.

    did you have fun with that? can I get you a tissue now? none of that is insulting, its just the truth. its not my problem you can't handle it.

    or maybe you'd like to continue calling me a moron?
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Secondly, I regard the term Anti-American as an absurdity, as I've pointed out before. Only morons use this term, as it's simply a way of deflecting any and all criticism.

    but go ahead and play the victim like you do so well until you tell me to fuck off again.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    but go ahead and play the victim like you do so well until you tell me to fuck off again.

    I didn't tell you to fuck off. I merely suggested that you fuck off. You were complaining about a particular thread that wasn't to your liking. You kept posting on the thread asking why it was still going and trying to derail it. I then suggested that you could simply fuck off. I thought I was doing you a favour.

    Anyway, I'm not responding to any more of your bullshit. We're done.

    Bye bye!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    but go ahead and play the victim like you do so well until you tell me to fuck off again.

    I didn't tell you to fuck off. I merely suggested that you fuck off. You were complaining about a particular thread that wasn't to your liking. You kept posting on the thread asking why it was still going and trying to derail it. I then suggested that you could simply fuck off. I thought I was doing you a favour.

    Anyway, I'm not responding to any more of your bullshit. We're done.

    Bye bye!

    ohhh you were doing me a favor by telling me to fuck off? I had you all wrong buddy, you were really just looking out for me? how nice of you. :roll:
  • can we get a fucking ignore button back? I've never used one, but I'd like to try....just once.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    jlew24asu wrote:
    i thought you were the badass, you are the one on here always berating others and minimizing their opinion because it is different than yours. if the mods will not say anything to you then i will....i have a news flash for you.....breaking news.....your views are no better or more important than anyone else's....as soon as you realize that, i think people will play nice with you. but until then you can continue to make yourself look like a jerk to the rest of the board with your massive ego and superiority/god complex. you accuse me of chest beating in another thread while i was out of town and away from the board for a few days and you are the one talking about a physical confrontation? how laughable...take it easy, calm down fedor, its just a message board...

    i say lets go back to the main purpose of the thread...why hitler failed...but hey, what do i know, i am just a dumbass who likes to lift weights....

    you have a little badass, hide behind a message board, complex as well. you sit there and act like some innocent angle. you talk just as much shit as anyone else in this forum. and yes, you do your fair share of chest pounding. how many times are you going to get tough with me, demanding I do research for you? like I owe you something, like its my job to provide you with evidence of this or that. newsflash for you, I don't. its funny how you can dish it, but and push back you cry about it.


    yea great idea. lets talk about why hilter failed. what a stellar thread and discussion. :roll: once we figure out why Hilter failed, we can then apply it to the 4th Reich American empire right?

    no, i am not crying about anything. everything i say on here i would say to your face. i am not afraid of you and i have no problems telling you how i feel and telling you the truth. if the mods are not going to warn or speak to you i am going to tell you what is up. these personal attacks on all of the other posters have to stop. say what you want to me i really don't care. i try to be really diplomatic when i post on here but i have no patience or tolerance when you hijack threads and start making rules and demands. for instance you always say "no cut and paste party", "no wiki links", etc as if you are the ruler of the board and everyone has to post according to your criteria. well nobody died and made you king. you belittle thread topics, like you did a few posts ago in this very thread. here is an idea if you don't like the thread how about not posting in it? is that so difficult? you made 15 shots at one poster in this very thread. you made a comment about someone's stature implying they were a little man. what was the point of that? that is chest pounding and intimidation if i ever heard it. if you are implying that i am a little guy here is some news for you. i am 5'11" and 240 lbs with 8% body fat. i routinely compete in wrestling tournaments and have fought a few mma matches so i am not someone that you would be able to control in the real world. just so you know that i am not 5'7 and 140. but none of that really matters. but the worst thing that i observe is you try to dominate or control others. you intimidate people from posting in this forum and you try to intimidate them from standing up to you. you are a bully in a lot of ways and it is really uncool.

    i do talk some shit, but most of it is sarcastic. i mean nothing personal by it. even when i go after you or call you out i try not to make is very personal. i also many times make suggestions or try to contribute in a positive way, but sometimes i screw up and attack people. at least i can admit when i make a mistake or when i am an ass to someone. you are in complete denial that you insulted anyone at all. you even said those statements were the truth in this very thread. in the other thread i was not demanding you do research. i was imploring you to post what you have so that not only me, but other people might learn somethng. you bragged about all of this research you had done but refused to share it. i thought maybe you had something that could have proven those that disagree with you wrong and embarrassed us. but since you did not do that it tells me you had nothing. seriously, when i ask for info it is for intellectual reasons. witholding information is very childish. we could all stand to learn something here. that is why i come here all the time.

    lastly, i am trying to get this thread back on topic because the personal attacks are getting old, but for some reason you don't want to discuss it. if you don't then kindly remove yourself from it so the topic can be discussed. i think this is a relevent topic because we all have something we can learn from WWII. thinking we know everythng is very arrogant. i think hitler failed for a number of reasons. his first mistake was not defeating the british in the battle of brittain, secondly i think breaking the treaty with russia and attacking them was horrible horrible planning. what do you think?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    can we get a fucking ignore button back? I've never used one, but I'd like to try....just once.

    +1
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Hitler failed because he was a right-wing bigoted patriot... which is the same reason as to why someone else on this thread has failed.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    dunkman wrote:
    Hitler failed because he was a right-wing bigoted patriot... which is the same reason as to why someone else on this thread has failed.

    :P
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I see someone is trying to derail this thread because the subject being discussed doesn't show America as being a sole beacon of light and freedom in the world and the one country responsible for defeating Nazi Germany, as many Americans ignorantly choose to believe.

    no Americans believe we were the one country responsible for defeating the Nazis. none.


    type into Google "we saved your ass in world war 2" and then after reading the 1,000,090 pages that are returned come back and amend your post
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Byrnzie.. did you ever get to watch that docudrama about Stalin during the war?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1329986/
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    dunkman wrote:
    Byrnzie.. did you ever get to watch that docudrama about Stalin during the war?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1329986/

    I've not seen this one amigo. I'll check it out.
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