Tomorrow I make the biggest decision of my life

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Every suggestion you have come up with involves this guy living off others.

Collect Welfare
Mooch off his friends
Mooch off his family

Why not tell this guy to act like a responsible adult?

You make it sound like helping your friends and/or family is a bad thing. Is that what they teach you in America? That it's everyone for themselves and fuck everybody else? Personally, if one of my friends hated his job, decided he needed to quit it, and needed to crash at my place for a month, or a few months until he sorted out a place of his own then I wouldn't think twice about it. But then maybe my definition of the word 'friend' isn't the same as yours?

Seriously, are Americans all really so fearful and conservative? I thought America was founded on ideals of freedom and adventure? Sounds to me like that's all dead and buried.

'In God We Trust'?.......I wonder if Mary would have found a place to stay in America on the night of 25th December - a friendly innkeeper - or if Jesus would have had to be born on the street instead - perhaps in a trash can, or in a cardboard box?

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

Byrnzie

Leave responsibility and fear with the Republicans, and leave the fun for the rest of us. :P

Byrnzie

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

Because I can't see this type of drawn out discussion occurring between the Europeans on this board. But that's just my humble opinion.

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

Because I can't see this type of drawn out discussion occurring between the Europeans on this board. But that's just my humble opinion.

yes cause youre either american or european. :roll:

beak

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Every suggestion you have come up with involves this guy living off others.

Collect Welfare
Mooch off his friends
Mooch off his family

Why not tell this guy to act like a responsible adult?

You make it sound like helping your friends and/or family is a bad thing. Is that what they teach you in America? That it's everyone for themselves and fuck everybody else? Personally, if one of my friends hated his job, decided he needed to quit it, and needed to crash at my place for a month, or a few months until he sorted out a place of his own then I wouldn't think twice about it. But then maybe my definition of the word 'friend' isn't the same as yours?

Seriously, are Americans all really so fearful and conservative? I thought America was founded on ideals of freedom and adventure? Sounds to me like that's all dead and buried.

'In God We Trust'?.......I wonder if Mary would have found a place to stay in America on the night of 25th December - a friendly innkeeper - or if Jesus would have had to be born on the street instead - perhaps in a trash can, or in a cardboard box?

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

I'm with Speedy on this one. There's nothing wrong with helping friends and family and people SHOULD help their friends and family. However, if the person in the bad situation isn't taking any strides to better the situation and is taking advantage of systems and other people, they don't deserve to have anything thrown in their lap. They need to get popped in the jaw by life and learn to act like a responsible adult.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

Because I can't see this type of drawn out discussion occurring between the Europeans on this board. But that's just my humble opinion.

I dont care if the 25 year old adult is...

American
European
African
Hispanic
Or a trained Ape.....

Quitting your job to go to see Pearl Jam is just plain ignorant...

That is my humble opinion.....

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

Because I can't see this type of drawn out discussion occurring between the Europeans on this board. But that's just my humble opinion.

I dont care if the 25 year old adult is...

American
European
African
Hispanic
Or a trained Ape.....

Quitting your job to go to see Pearl Jam is just plain ignorant...

That is my humble opinion.....

why is it ignorant???

SPEEDY MCCREADY

catefrances wrote:

why is it ignorant???

Ok...

I'll play...

You, on the other hand, think it is a wise decision?

JaneNY

musicismylife78 wrote:

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I also think the romantic notion of either after these shows, just getting on the greyhound and packing up and moving to a random place is exacting a pull on me as well. To just pack up and say "hey I need to move to a new place" and just move to a new city.

This was never just about the concert. Is the concert important? Hell yes. But is it the ONLY factor rolling around in my head? No!

Don't just pick a random place. Do some research. Think about what type of place you would like to live. I can tell you I live in a small town and don't like it much. They are over-romanticized - the idea of 'everyone looks out for everyone' is bullshit, and there's less choice in terms of culture, restaurants, medical care. I've done my best to 'bloom where I was planted' for 25 years, but you are young. If you feel that pull to go somewhere else, and have a little savings and reasonable work ability, its all going to be easier now than when you're older.

Everyone's giving you practical advice, and they are right - you need money for food and rent, and medical care. I've been practical and responsible most of my life (and have arranged my work life so I CAN travel to shows pretty much when I want) but I would find it suffocating to never be able to go anywhere. I don't really know what to tell you except good luck.

Byrnzie

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

How the fuck did this conversation become an "American" thing??

Because I can't see this type of drawn out discussion occurring between the Europeans on this board. But that's just my humble opinion.

I dont care if the 25 year old adult is...

American
European
African
Hispanic
Or a trained Ape.....

Quitting your job to go to see Pearl Jam is just plain ignorant...

That is my humble opinion.....

Then we agree to disagree my friend.

In the words of the Doctor Hunter S Thompson:

"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
Hunter S Thompsonv—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003

"We are witnessing the death of fun"
Hunter S Thompson

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

catefrances wrote:

why is it ignorant???

Ok...

I'll play...

You, on the other hand, think it is a wise decision?

if, as you say, youre playing then answer my question.

it is not my place to say whether his decision is a wise one or not. tis hardly the worst decision a person can make now is it?? wisdom somehow implies logic and some of us have decided in a world increasingly devoid of heart to choose the road less travelled. or at least the road less admired and given worth.

Byrnzie

catefrances wrote:

yes cause youre either american or european. :roll:

I don't speak for Antipodeans because I don't know enough of them, and I don't know enough about the place. :geek:

SPEEDY MCCREADY

catefrances wrote:

if, as you say, youre playing then answer my question.

it is not my place to say whether his decision is a wise one or not. tis hardly the worst decision a person can make now is it?? wisdom somehow implies logic and some of us have decided in a world increasingly devoid of heart to choose the road less travelled. or at least the road less admired and given worth.

Quitting your job, to go see 2 pearl jam shows, then waking up the next morning realizing you are broke, unemployed, and not knowing how long it will take you to find another job is ignorant. Putting yourself into a position of financial ruin, to go see pearl jam is ignorant. Not knowing how you will pay your rent, because you spent what little savings you have on going to see pearl jam is ignorant.

There I answered the question....

Byrnzie

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

realizing you are broke, unemployed

Putting yourself into a position of financial ruin

Not knowing how you will pay your rent

Shit man, you're making me afraid to ever go to another Pearl Jam show again. :shock:

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

catefrances wrote:

yes cause youre either american or european. :roll:

I don't speak for Antipodeans because I don't know enough of them, and I don't know enough about the place. :geek:

total nerdling... using the 'a' word. :P

back in the 80s we had a prime minister who on national television told the entire population that any boss who sacks an employee who doesnt come in on the day 'we' won the americas cup is a bum. he may well have had a couple of beers under his belt when he said it too. so the thought of quitting a job to go see a band isnt a foreign concept to us. though we are more likely to chuck a sickie.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

realizing you are broke, unemployed

Putting yourself into a position of financial ruin

Not knowing how you will pay your rent

Shit man, you're making me afraid to ever go to another Pearl Jam show again. :shock:

hehehehehe..............

Cmon Byrnzie!!!!

You cant tell me YOU would spend the last of your savings......
With the chance of putting your life into a complete free-fall.....

all for a rock concert......

YOU WOULDNT DO IT!!!!!!!!!

Byrnzie

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

realizing you are broke, unemployed

Putting yourself into a position of financial ruin

Not knowing how you will pay your rent

Shit man, you're making me afraid to ever go to another Pearl Jam show again. :shock:

hehehehehe..............

Cmon Byrnzie!!!!

You cant tell me YOU would spend the last of your savings......
With the chance of putting your life into a complete free-fall.....

all for a rock concert......

YOU WOULDNT DO IT!!!!!!!!!

Well, of course I wouldn't put ALL of my savings into it. I'd make sure that I had some money left for beer. :P

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

catefrances wrote:

if, as you say, youre playing then answer my question.

it is not my place to say whether his decision is a wise one or not. tis hardly the worst decision a person can make now is it?? wisdom somehow implies logic and some of us have decided in a world increasingly devoid of heart to choose the road less travelled. or at least the road less admired and given worth.

Quitting your job, to go see 2 pearl jam shows, then waking up the next morning realizing you are broke, unemployed, and not knowing how long it will take you to find another job is ignorant. Putting yourself into a position of financial ruin, to go see pearl jam is ignorant. Not knowing how you will pay your rent, because you spent what little savings you have on going to see pearl jam is ignorant.

There I answered the question....

if he knows hell be broke, jobless and out on his proverbial ear then his decision isnt ignorant is it? cause he already knows what seeing pj will do to his immediate life. just cause its not the way you live your life doesnt make it ignorant. and quite frankly who gives a fuck how this guy lives his life so long as hes not hurting anybody.

say go see pj have a great time and when you come down from the euphoria, then worry about the rest. hmm but then again maybe im just being ignorant. though i prefer to see it as living a life and not giving a fuck.

Byrnzie

O.k, o.k, so I'm on a HST roll now:

"So we shall let the reader answer this question for himself: who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed?"
— Hunter S. Thompson

"Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously."
— Hunter S. Thompson

"Every now and then when your life gets complicated and the weasels start closing in, the only cure is to load up on heinous chemicals and then drive like a bastard from Hollywood to Las Vegas ... with the music at top volume and at least a pint of ether."
— Hunter S. Thompson (Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas)

"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used."
— Hunter S. Thompson

musicismylife78

JaneNY wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

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I also think the romantic notion of either after these shows, just getting on the greyhound and packing up and moving to a random place is exacting a pull on me as well. To just pack up and say "hey I need to move to a new place" and just move to a new city.

This was never just about the concert. Is the concert important? Hell yes. But is it the ONLY factor rolling around in my head? No!

Don't just pick a random place. Do some research. Think about what type of place you would like to live. I can tell you I live in a small town and don't like it much. They are over-romanticized - the idea of 'everyone looks out for everyone' is bullshit, and there's less choice in terms of culture, restaurants, medical care. I've done my best to 'bloom where I was planted' for 25 years, but you are young. If you feel that pull to go somewhere else, and have a little savings and reasonable work ability, its all going to be easier now than when you're older.

Everyone's giving you practical advice, and they are right - you need money for food and rent, and medical care. I've been practical and responsible most of my life (and have arranged my work life so I CAN travel to shows pretty much when I want) but I would find it suffocating to never be able to go anywhere. I don't really know what to tell you except good luck.

What practical advice? Its alternated between hinting that I am a spoiled, idiot, and that people dont care what the hell I do.

People make decisions. You make decisions every day. Some decisions you make I wouldnt agree with, but I dont think I am going to say you are spoiled for making them.

Ultimately, I have noticed the feeling of being restless in your twenties, of not being satisfied, of feeling lost and helpless, is something millions of people go through. I am not unique and I know this.

But reading the responses from you all, sure make it sound like I am some odd freak. And I think thats rude and dishonest frankly.