One more 10c bitch

lebowski70

I know as Pearl Jam fans and 10 Club members we are typically a very compassionate, forgiving, and generally understanding group of people. That being said, there is still one word that all of us must maintain throughout our lives, regardless of what we do with them...Responsibility. We are responsible to renew our membership; it's plain and simple. I don't think new rules are necessary just because we are upset at ourselves for forgetting. You see, I also allowed my membership to lapse a very long time ago. When I originally joined, I was mailing in checks to 10 Club. My number was 92xxx. I let it lapse and my number is now 195xxx. Was I bummed? You bet! Do I blame the policy? No way!!! I WAS RESPONSIBLE for failing to renew, and with that I suffered the consequences (I still love my new number though!). That's pretty much it. Yeah, I feel bad for you, but I am not about to agree with a policy change. That's just my humble opinion.

Spags

Got to say that I've found this thread to be very informative, I just joined like yesterday and didn't realise that you get better seats the longer you have been a member - in fact I was so hard for Pearl Jam again after the 02 gig I gave 10c my cash not knowing what I would be getting back. A fool and his money, etc...anybody got a linky to what the benefits are for being in this club so I can stop coming across as such a total nub? I know there is the famous Holiday single...a girl gave me 'Angel/Ramblings' back in the day and I was stupid enough to let her have it back after I taped it.

Rossum20

The 10c has rules...you didnt follow them. It sucks but your expectations for what the 10c should be doing is ridiculous...its the same as concert ticket transfers...they tried to go out of the way to help fans (although mostly irresponsible ones gobbling up tickets only to later have them transferred to another person because they couldn't attend all their shows)

The 10c goes out of their way when they can...obviously its not perfect but there aren't many better out there. I can personally confirm I allowed my 10c membership to expire 4 weeks past my exp. date because I was studying abroad with no tour in site and completely forgot. I had my old email still on account so I didn't get the reminder email. I gave 10c my story and they found it vaild enough to let me renew, but they made it quite clear that I would never be able to take advantage of their kindness again. That was just shy of a month...you let it go for a year. A year? Thats all on you.

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Rossum20 wrote:

The 10c has rules...you didnt follow them. It sucks but your expectations for what the 10c should be doing is ridiculous...its the same as concert ticket transfers...they tried to go out of the way to help fans (although mostly irresponsible ones gobbling up tickets only to later have them transferred to another person because they couldn't attend all their shows)

The 10c goes out of their way when they can...obviously its not perfect but there aren't many better out there. I can personally confirm I allowed my 10c membership to expire 4 weeks past my exp. date because I was studying abroad with no tour in site and completely forgot. I had my old email still on account so I didn't get the reminder email. I gave 10c my story and they found it vaild enough to let me renew, but they made it quite clear that I would never be able to take advantage of their kindness again. That was just shy of a month...you let it go for a year. A year? Thats all on you.

that's all fair, but the fact is, if you only let it go for a month, you wouldn't lose your seniority anyway, so i'm not sure why you had to give the 10c your sob story.

decides2dream

chromiam wrote:

An email reminder that your membership has/ or will lapse and a 90 day grace period to renew and keep your current senority seem pretty fair to me....

Your system would leave a hell of a lot of leg work for the 10C to do in order to rank people not by their membership number (which is the current practice) but by some hybrid of membership and years of service to the band... no thanks, I think the current system, with its flaws, is fine.

well stated.
total agreement.

Vedder_Girl77

Bummer you lost your seniority but shit happens!

Gonzo1977

I joined the club in 1994-1995, re-newed every year...Until 2003

Life got in the way and my membership lapsed.

I went from a really good number to a so-so member number.

I still kick myself for letting it lapse...

Sure the days of guarenteed first 10 rows are over...but fuck it...I had my fun.

Now someone else gets em'...to me that's kind of cool.

And honestley, even with my new number, the seats haven't been that bad....I was 6th row or something at the last Ed solo show, and have had excellent seats the last few Pearl Jam shows.. Now with this lottery thing they've been doing lately...who knows?

Could be rows 1-2 or 9-10 tommorow night in TO.

At least I'm in the building, and still in the 10club.

life's too short to worry about this shit.

See you out there

MG79478

csickels wrote:

but shouldn't every business and organization strive to serve its clients as well as possible? now, we may vary on what that entails - but it's not debateable that 10c should serve us to the best of their ability.

I agree with this point 100%

The ten club is a business and they should strive to serve its clients as well as possible. And they are doing exactly that, problem is your point of view is selfish. They are serving the 99.99999% of the 10C that followed the rules and are now one seniority spot closer. And we all all very happy. You've received everything you have ever paid for, a one year membership in the 10C, with associated news letters and Christmas singles. Seniority is based on continued membership, which no longer applies to you. Sorry.

DewieCox

Wanna know what worse than 10c not allowing people to keep seniority?? When they give people their seniority back, even if they miss the 90 day grace period. I've seen several examples of that and it pisses me off every time.

If its important you won't forget to pay on time.

Ledbetterman10

Fuck this. The Tenclub rules. My membership expired for a month (not a year and a month like the original poster) in 2001 and I was able to keep my number when I renewed. I always get presale tickets without problem. I was banned from the message board but let back on. I stand in support for the Tenclub.

decides2dream

DewieCox wrote:

Wanna know what worse than 10c not allowing people to keep seniority?? When they give people their seniority back, even if they miss the 90 day grace period. I've seen several examples of that and it pisses me off every time.

If its important you won't forget to pay on time.

they did that for yeeeeaaaarrrrrs. i have heard plenty of 10clubbers say their memberships lapsed, many months, some even a couple of years.....and got their membership # back. they just needed to issue to 10c some proof of their original #. the 90 day policy is a fairly new development, and i agree.....it's the most 'fair' way of dealing with the issue.

Wilds

UncleSpaggles wrote:

Got to say that I've found this thread to be very informative, I just joined like yesterday and didn't realise that you get better seats the longer you have been a member - in fact I was so hard for Pearl Jam again after the 02 gig I gave 10c my cash not knowing what I would be getting back. A fool and his money, etc...anybody got a linky to what the benefits are for being in this club so I can stop coming across as such a total nub? I know there is the famous Holiday single...a girl gave me 'Angel/Ramblings' back in the day and I was stupid enough to let her have it back after I taped it.

Give me back my Avatar. :shock: :x

Just kidding..... It kicks ass, so more than one of us can rock the original Boston/Mansfield Octopus.


Mine:



Yours:

asgoodased

I believe this post was made by a secret tenclub worker to remind us all to go check our membership status, which I am going to go do now.

I applaud the effort. Please do this every 3 months.

EDIT: Whew, I'm ok until February.

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asgoodased wrote:

I believe this post was made by a secret tenclub worker to remind us all to go check our membership status, which I am going to go do now.

I applaud the effort. Please do this every 3 months.

EDIT: Whew, I'm ok until February.

I wish I could say that was true. I did mean to say earlier in the thread that I hope this does prevent at least one person from making the same dumbass mistake I did.

asgoodased

csickels wrote:

asgoodased wrote:

I believe this post was made by a secret tenclub worker to remind us all to go check our membership status, which I am going to go do now.

I applaud the effort. Please do this every 3 months.

EDIT: Whew, I'm ok until February.

I wish I could say that was true. I did mean to say earlier in the thread that I hope this does prevent at least one person from making the same dumbass mistake I did.

You should get a raise for staying undercover even after being outed. Unfortunately I have little pull.

Brain Of Jeremy

csickels wrote:

It doesn't make sense that a person who just discovered PJ in 2006 will now get seats better than mine permanently due to an oversight.

This statement just kills me. Another elitist member who think they are above others because they have been around here or into the band longer.

You mean YOUR oversight.

Just take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming everyone else for your own mistakes. Nobody dose this anymore. It is always someone elses fault.

Don't mean to blast you too hard and sorry if I am coming off harsh but you created this thread.

SolarWorld

Your memberships are your responsibility, take care of them accordingly. You have three months after the expiration date to renew to retain seniority. Which is plenty of time.

Backspacer_Backer

i'm pretty shocked by the high percentage of self righteous fucks who call themselves pearl jam fans.

i've stated no less than 10 times in this thread that it is my stupid mistake that caused this, i'm not laying responsibility for MY situation on the 10c. i'm simply stating that, imo, there is room for improvement in the policy.

Wobbie

A satellite forever orbiting wrote:

they send you an email when your membership is about to expire

They didn't always do this, I don't think. My membership lapsed (2003?) and I lost my "place in line." It was a bummer, but I didn't start a thread about it.

cincybearcat

Ok, trying to focus on an improvement...

Maybe they could keep all membership Numbers open...meaning if you don't renew for a year, you can still get your # back if you pay all back annual fees due and a small admin. fee? I don't know, it seems more feasible that going by service years, because when getting down to it for tickets, you'd need to go by service days...and then hours to put them in line.