I remember getting my hopes up when the venue in Dallas told their season ticket holders that PJ was playing. That didn't happen. I need to see it here before I get my hopes up.
I hear ya. It is complete conjecture at this point.
SHEP! Dammit. JEALOUS! :evil:
I can't find it here. I'm not surprised, it was the same with Faithfull Ale. None could I find here at all. That's ok. I'm drinking Coronas today in honor of Ed since it looks like we are going to get our Southern shows. My heart is literally leaping out of my chest thinking of them playing Dallas again. I know it's rumor, and could disintegrate at any second...I'll ride anyway. :corn:
faithful ale never made it into texas - the TABC never approved the label.
Don't get your heart broken over a rumour.... that's all i gotta say...
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
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hey roger! haven't seen you in here in a while....
The lack if shows in the south makes this thread frustrating at times...a regular non-festival show in Texas would be a start. I have a feeling all the south will see is Dallas and the Voodoo on November 1
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The lack if shows in the south makes this thread frustrating at times...a regular non-festival show in Texas would be a start. I have a feeling all the south will see is Dallas and the Voodoo on November 1
I have a feeling you're probably right... if they play dallas at all.
I have no idea why the band would play dallas of all places... if they drive by Houston without a show after all the postcards I've sent, I'm going to be a very unhappy individual...
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
The lack if shows in the south makes this thread frustrating at times...a regular non-festival show in Texas would be a start. I have a feeling all the south will see is Dallas and the Voodoo on November 1
I have a feeling you're probably right... if they play dallas at all.
I have no idea why the band would play dallas of all places... if they drive by Houston without a show after all the postcards I've sent, I'm going to be a very unhappy individual...
Their logic defies mine a lot. I'd think if Dallas and Voodoo are shows.. it's probable Houston would be there too. But I shouldn't have to remind myself of ACL 09...
And would the lottery system work the same way..as in you would just get one show per tour?
The lack if shows in the south makes this thread frustrating at times...a regular non-festival show in Texas would be a start. I have a feeling all the south will see is Dallas and the Voodoo on November 1
I have a feeling you're probably right... if they play dallas at all.
I have no idea why the band would play dallas of all places... if they drive by Houston without a show after all the postcards I've sent, I'm going to be a very unhappy individual...
I just don't understand how they keep ignoring the south. What other band ignores the entire south on tours? It's jyst very frustrating.
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1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
Their logic defies mine a lot. I'd think if Dallas and Voodoo are shows.. it's probable Houston would be there too. But I shouldn't have to remind myself of ACL 09...
And would the lottery system work the same way..as in you would just get one show per tour?
Well the Dallas and Voodoo rumours kind of conflict if you think about it...
If the date for Dallas is September and Voodoo is taking place Nov 1-3 this year, WTF are they doing for the month in between? It only takes a day to drive from Dallas to NOLA... and you have to drive directly by Houston, another major market you could play... but yea, this band defies logic...
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
Their logic defies mine a lot. I'd think if Dallas and Voodoo are shows.. it's probable Houston would be there too. But I shouldn't have to remind myself of ACL 09...
And would the lottery system work the same way..as in you would just get one show per tour?
Well the Dallas and Voodoo rumours kind of conflict if you think about it...
If the date for Dallas is September and Voodoo is taking place Nov 1-3 this year, WTF are they doing for the month in between? It only takes a day to drive from Dallas to NOLA... and you have to drive directly by Houston, another major market you could play... but yea, this band defies logic...
That's what I'm kind of wondering.. even if it's late September, there's still a month in between. Dallas to.. yeah there's a huge market for both there and Houston. I'm doubtful of a San Antonio show, but hopefully it comes soon.. but after the 5th.
I'm not going to get my hopes up yet for Dallas being rumored, but it does seem strange that the rumors are that Dallas kicks it off and N.O. ends it with 1-2 months in between sometime in September and Voodoo on Nov 1-2. Logistically that doesn't make a lot of sense at all, but then again, when does their touring schedule make sense?
The 2009 swing from LA to Austin back to LA.
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
When I first heard this, I thought the same thing. How the F would they play TX then NOLA a full month later?
Unless they did several shows throughout the South for that month, it doesn't make sense. I'm willing to bet that if they play Dallas, they'll play Houston too. :corn:
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
The 2003 tour was a fun one.
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1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
The 2003 tour was a fun one.
Ahhh yes...when they actually toured.
Not sure what to think about the rumors. I always get hopeful then disappointed. This will make it even worse or all worth it.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
The 2003 tour was a fun one.
Unlike the last Dallas show, I can legally drink there now!
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
The 2003 tour was a fun one.
Ahhh yes...when they actually toured.
Not sure what to think about the rumors. I always get hopeful then disappointed. This will make it even worse or all worth it.
Yeah that was a decade ago, it was a huge stretch for me to even try to use that as a valid comparison, but my main point was you can't try to predict a tour based on rumors of just Dallas and NO because they don't seem to follow any certain pattern or consistent itinerary.
I don't allow myself to get too hopeful. I'd rather just not expect much and then hopefully have a nice surprise if it actually comes true.
The lack if shows in the south makes this thread frustrating at times...a regular non-festival show in Texas would be a start. I have a feeling all the south will see is Dallas and the Voodoo on November 1
I have a feeling you're probably right... if they play dallas at all.
I have no idea why the band would play dallas of all places... if they drive by Houston without a show after all the postcards I've sent, I'm going to be a very unhappy individual...
Maybe that's why they are skipping Houston :P
Houston's huge. I have to believe that if they are playing Dallas they would also play there, but then I also wouldn't have believed they'd go over 10 years without playing there. :thumbdown: Really hoping Houston gets a show! I'll be there if they do..it would be great to finally meet you.
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I'm not going to get my hopes up yet for Dallas being rumored, but it does seem strange that the rumors are that Dallas kicks it off and N.O. ends it with 1-2 months in between sometime in September and Voodoo on Nov 1-2. Logistically that doesn't make a lot of sense at all, but then again, when does their touring schedule make sense?
The 2009 swing from LA to Austin back to LA.
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
Whatever, I'll take what I can get at this point.
That 2009 example shows what they would do to play a festival..so if they are playing voodoo in November then the previous and following shows may not even be anywhere near Louisiana.
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I'm not going to get my hopes up yet for Dallas being rumored, but it does seem strange that the rumors are that Dallas kicks it off and N.O. ends it with 1-2 months in between sometime in September and Voodoo on Nov 1-2. Logistically that doesn't make a lot of sense at all, but then again, when does their touring schedule make sense?
The 2009 swing from LA to Austin back to LA.
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
Whatever, I'll take what I can get at this point.
That 2009 example shows what they would do to play a festival..so if they are playing voodoo in November then the previous and following shows may not even be anywhere near Louisiana.
Such optimism.. I hate that I'm a realistic idealist. Ed did seem apologetic at some of the shows here..
The lack if shows in the south makes this thread frustrating at times...a regular non-festival show in Texas would be a start. I have a feeling all the south will see is Dallas and the Voodoo on November 1
I have a feeling you're probably right... if they play dallas at all.
I have no idea why the band would play dallas of all places... if they drive by Houston without a show after all the postcards I've sent, I'm going to be a very unhappy individual...
Maybe that's why they are skipping Houston :P
Houston's huge. I have to believe that if they are playing Dallas they would also play there, but then I also wouldn't have believed they'd go over 10 years without playing there. :thumbdown: Really hoping Houston gets a show! I'll be there if they do..it would be great to finally meet you.
Let's be quite honest - speaking strictly Dallas and Houston, you are talking about 14 million people - officially. Add in the illegals, and you're probably talking closer to 17 million people. The cities are less than a 4 hour drive apart and constitute a market as big as new york city.
it's almost mind numbing to think that any band could ignore that much of a market segment.
add in San Antonio, which now also approaching 7 million people - officially - and you're talking about 21 million people all within a 300 mile radius that you've completely ignored for a decade...
Let's be quite honest - speaking strictly Dallas and Houston, you are talking about 14 million people - officially. Add in the illegals, and you're probably talking closer to 17 million people. The cities are less than a 4 hour drive apart and constitute a market as big as new york city.
it's almost mind numbing to think that any band could ignore that much of a market segment.
add in San Antonio, which now also approaching 7 million people - officially - and you're talking about 21 million people all within a 300 mile radius that you've completely ignored for a decade...
it almost just seems ignorant.
THIS. A thousand times, this. I agree, and I hope that this tour changes that pattern. It looks like all the postcards, emails, letters and posts related to playing the South have helped our cause. Coupled with Ed's solo dates - we have ourselves real probability this time. Not to mention that there are many fans here who have disposable income enough to see 3+ shows in the South. Makes a big difference in booking cities.
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
The 2003 tour was a fun one.
Unlike the last Dallas show, I can legally drink there now!
The 2003 tour in Houston, they stopped serving alcohol after ten pm. FYI :(
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I hear ya. It is complete conjecture at this point.
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faithful ale never made it into texas - the TABC never approved the label.
Don't get your heart broken over a rumour.... that's all i gotta say...
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
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hey roger! haven't seen you in here in a while....
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
That would be a great show.
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There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
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Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
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I have a feeling you're probably right... if they play dallas at all.
I have no idea why the band would play dallas of all places... if they drive by Houston without a show after all the postcards I've sent, I'm going to be a very unhappy individual...
Their logic defies mine a lot. I'd think if Dallas and Voodoo are shows.. it's probable Houston would be there too. But I shouldn't have to remind myself of ACL 09...
And would the lottery system work the same way..as in you would just get one show per tour?
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
Well the Dallas and Voodoo rumours kind of conflict if you think about it...
If the date for Dallas is September and Voodoo is taking place Nov 1-3 this year, WTF are they doing for the month in between? It only takes a day to drive from Dallas to NOLA... and you have to drive directly by Houston, another major market you could play... but yea, this band defies logic...
That's what I'm kind of wondering.. even if it's late September, there's still a month in between. Dallas to.. yeah there's a huge market for both there and Houston. I'm doubtful of a San Antonio show, but hopefully it comes soon.. but after the 5th.
The 2009 swing from LA to Austin back to LA.
The 2003, they played essentially 2 tour legs w/ N.O., OKC, Houston, SA, Florida, Atlanta, SC, & NC in early April, and then Dallas, Little Rock, Phx, and KC in early June.
Whatever, I'll take what I can get at this point.
Unless they did several shows throughout the South for that month, it doesn't make sense. I'm willing to bet that if they play Dallas, they'll play Houston too. :corn:
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1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
Ahhh yes...when they actually toured.
Not sure what to think about the rumors. I always get hopeful then disappointed. This will make it even worse or all worth it.
Unlike the last Dallas show, I can legally drink there now!
Yeah that was a decade ago, it was a huge stretch for me to even try to use that as a valid comparison, but my main point was you can't try to predict a tour based on rumors of just Dallas and NO because they don't seem to follow any certain pattern or consistent itinerary.
I don't allow myself to get too hopeful. I'd rather just not expect much and then hopefully have a nice surprise if it actually comes true.
^^This^^ is exactly what my husband told me. I'm an optimist, so I get disappointed a lot.
2013 Wrigley
2013 Dallas
2013 Oklahoma City
2013 Seattle
How I choose to feel is how I am.
There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
"Take care of one another..." -EV
Maybe that's why they are skipping Houston :P
Houston's huge. I have to believe that if they are playing Dallas they would also play there, but then I also wouldn't have believed they'd go over 10 years without playing there. :thumbdown: Really hoping Houston gets a show! I'll be there if they do..it would be great to finally meet you.
If we all sent them, they couldn't forget that people actually live down here!!
That 2009 example shows what they would do to play a festival..so if they are playing voodoo in November then the previous and following shows may not even be anywhere near Louisiana.
Such optimism.. I hate that I'm a realistic idealist. Ed did seem apologetic at some of the shows here..
Let's be quite honest - speaking strictly Dallas and Houston, you are talking about 14 million people - officially. Add in the illegals, and you're probably talking closer to 17 million people. The cities are less than a 4 hour drive apart and constitute a market as big as new york city.
it's almost mind numbing to think that any band could ignore that much of a market segment.
add in San Antonio, which now also approaching 7 million people - officially - and you're talking about 21 million people all within a 300 mile radius that you've completely ignored for a decade...
it almost just seems ignorant.
I saw a whole pile of Tampa ones in the recent deep mag - I assume that was you?
THIS. A thousand times, this. I agree, and I hope that this tour changes that pattern. It looks like all the postcards, emails, letters and posts related to playing the South have helped our cause. Coupled with Ed's solo dates - we have ourselves real probability this time. Not to mention that there are many fans here who have disposable income enough to see 3+ shows in the South. Makes a big difference in booking cities.
2013 Wrigley
2013 Dallas
2013 Oklahoma City
2013 Seattle
How I choose to feel is how I am.
There's just one word I still believe...and it's LOVE.
"Take care of one another..." -EV
The 2003 tour in Houston, they stopped serving alcohol after ten pm. FYI :(
The last Dallas show.. I was 18. Made it interesting.