You are obviously a "Liberal" because you don't know what a "Leftist" is. You ended your post with the word "Peace." You can easily "Google" "Liberal" and "Leftist" and draw your own assumptions. My personal opinion is very slanted.
Like I've posted above I can engage others with their points of views and I've my points on what a liberal is and what a leftist is. I'm just simply asking you what yours is whether it's slanted or not it matters none to me.
Oh the reason why I end ALL my whatever number posts, is due to way back when I was in the military long story.
Peace
I would answer you - MY definition of Liberal versus Leftest on this thread - except it would only bring even more negative responses. You already know - being former military (We - my husband and I are former military, too). I knew there was a reason I didn't want to argue with you. I would love to hear your (long) story -so please feel free to P.M. me. You served this country - therefore - I can never say anything negative about you. You've earned the right, dude. Regardless of your current opinion. I was a complete Lib once upon a time. I'm not anymore. My opinion doesn't matter (on this websight) anyway. Thanks for serving - as corny as they may sound - I truly mean it.
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
You are obviously a "Liberal" because you don't know what a "Leftist" is. You ended your post with the word "Peace." You can easily "Google" "Liberal" and "Leftist" and draw your own assumptions. My personal opinion is very slanted.
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BTW - you seem very "astute" to me, as you bothered to ask what the difference is....(Liberal versus Leftist) THAT in and of itself -speaks VOLUMES about your intellect.
Did you really quote yourself to give yourself props about how insightful you are?
[quote="gimmesometruth27At least now you understand - we are on the same page. I just have a bit of a problem with your last statment about ignorance and "arrogance." Takes one to know one, dude. You are obviously too profound a person for me to respond. Enjoy the next 3 and half years. The clock is ticking dude.
BTW - you (and all of the other Leftists) just love that Sarah walked away from being Gov. of Alaska. It gives you all more fodder. It's common knowledge that you Leftist just love to feed on THAT. BTW - what magazines or books do YOU read - quickly now - don't hesitate. Answer right now. Most are Liberal Rags - anyway...just like most of the Liberal-slanted media. People are growing tired of the Liberal LIES now.
if ya can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. and she got out of the kitchen. its just so typical of her. if she can't get her way she will quit. the lame duck thing was complete bs. me being a liberal i felt like it would be fun to have a laugh at her expense, but the american citizen in me feels obligated to let her have it. she quit on her state. she was a leader of one of the 50 states, a governor, the highest position in each state and she walked away from that and she walked out on the citizens of alaska. it is my duty as an american citizen to criticize her for that. it is your duty as a vet to criticize her for walking out on one of the states that you fought to defend. and her quitting does not bother you? i can see resigning in disgrace or not seeking re-election but she just QUIT. it is disgraceful.
i read as much as i can, some conservative papers and some liberal. what does it matter to you? i read local papers as well as the new york times, the washington post, the guardian when i look at the site, the wall street journal, and usa today to name a few. i work in a doctors office so we subscribe to all of them and i read what i can. you call the media liberal slanted because it tells you thihngs that you do not wnt to hear and tries to hold accountable those that you probably voted for. it is the duty of the press to do that, not just be a shill for an administration like rush, hannnity and fox news. people may be growing tired of the "liberal lies" but we are also tired of the republicans pissing and moaing and doing absolutely NOTHING to try to compromise on anything and they are bringing no new ideas to the table about anything other than the same tax cut bs.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
really? have you not READ ANY OF THIS THREAD AT ALL??? those are the only reasons liberals don't like her? i think you left out that most people don't like her because she is an uneducated, opportunistic, political hack, self serving hypocrate and pathological liar, and a complete buffoon who resigned when things got difficult and inconvenient. if electied to higher office she would be a disgrace to my country, the same as the bush administration.[/quote
wow you should really see a doctor about all that anger
i will make a deal with you. i will see a doctor if you will read a book
Regardless of opposing Political Viewpoints - - whom on here cannot just LOVE the "BUNNY with a PANCAKE on it's head....!!!? I personally must put all political differences aside to acknowledge this picture. Cease fire for just a moment please. Too cute. Okay - now you can resume.
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
Regardless of opposing Political Viewpoints - - whom on here cannot just LOVE the "BUNNY with a PANCAKE on it's head....!!!? I personally must put all political differences aside to acknowledge this picture. Cease fire for just a moment please. Too cute. Okay - now you can resume.
Regardless of opposing Political Viewpoints - - whom on here cannot just LOVE the "BUNNY with a PANCAKE on it's head....!!!? I personally must put all political differences aside to acknowledge this picture. Cease fire for just a moment please. Too cute. Okay - now you can resume.
I have it bookmarked under your name.
I love it.
Common ground! How Great is THAT? It's a starting point anyway. Thank you for "bookmarking this cute picture in my name. Can I take that as a compliment? Just know that if I disagree with you politically - it truly isn't personal. I hope you feel the same.
The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
You are obviously a "Liberal" because you don't know what a "Leftist" is. You ended your post with the word "Peace." You can easily "Google" "Liberal" and "Leftist" and draw your own assumptions. My personal opinion is very slanted.
Like I've posted above I can engage others with their points of views and I've my points on what a liberal is and what a leftist is. I'm just simply asking you what yours is whether it's slanted or not it matters none to me.
Oh the reason why I end ALL my whatever number posts, is due to way back when I was in the military long story.
Peace
I would answer you - MY definition of Liberal versus Leftest on this thread - except it would only bring even more negative responses. You already know - being former military (We - my husband and I are former military, too). I knew there was a reason I didn't want to argue with you. I would love to hear your (long) story -so please feel free to P.M. me. You served this country - therefore - I can never say anything negative about you. You've earned the right, dude. Regardless of your current opinion. I was a complete Lib once upon a time. I'm not anymore. My opinion doesn't matter (on this websight) anyway. Thanks for serving - as corny as they may sound - I truly mean it.
I was also a complete Lib , but around 40 (about the same time I became a grandmother) I noticed my
outlook on things had changed..From politics to child raising...I came across this quote that really hit home....
Churchill said "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
I feel a need to say that I have friends whom are "Liberals" and bless their hearts, their "hearts" are actually in the right place. I can deal with Liberals. I have a hard time with "Leftists" - as common sense - by all standards - does not exist. I have no tolerance. The U.S. Constitution still resonates with me.
At least now you understand - we are on the same page. I just have a bit of a problem with your last statment about ignorance and "arrogance." Takes one to know one, dude. You are obviously too profound a person for me to respond. Enjoy the next 3 and half years. The clock is ticking dude.
BTW - you (and all of the other Leftists) just love that Sarah walked away from being Gov. of Alaska. It gives you all more fodder. It's common knowledge that you Leftist just love to feed on THAT. BTW - what magazines or books do YOU read - quickly now - don't hesitate. Answer right now. Most are Liberal Rags - anyway...just like most of the Liberal-slanted media. People are growing tired of the Liberal LIES now.
Wow......just wow. :?
If I had known then what I know now...
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Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'
By MARK THIESSEN Associated Press Writer The Associated Press
Friday, August 7, 2009 8:23 PM EDT
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called President Barack Obama's health plan "downright evil" Friday in her first online comments since leaving office, saying in a Facebook posting that he would create a "death panel" that would deny care to the neediest Americans.
"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care," the former Republican vice presidential candidate wrote.
"Such a system is downright evil," Palin wrote on her page, which has nearly 700,000 supporters. She encouraged her supporters to be engaged in the debate.
The claim that the Democratic health care bills would encourage euthanasia has been circulating on the Internet for weeks and has been echoed by some Republican leaders. Democrats from Obama on down have dismissed it as a distortion. The nonpartisan group FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania says the claim is false.
The allegation appears to be based on a provision of the House bill that would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, on a voluntary basis, for beneficiaries who want the service. Medicare already covers hospice care. And legislation passed by Congress in 1990 requires that patients be asked if they have a living will.
Obama addressed the controversy during a July 28 AARP-sponsored town hall.
"Nobody is going to be forcing you to make a set of decisions on end-of-life care based on some bureaucratic law in Washington," he said.
An e-mail sent to Palin's spokeswoman to confirm authorship of the Facebook posting was not immediately returned Friday. There was no immediate reply to phone messages left late Friday with the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office seeking comment on Palin's remarks.
Republican criticism has also included claims that the reform plans will lead to rationing, or the government determining which medical procedures a patient can have.
However, millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover. Denying coverage for certain procedures might increase under proposals to have a government-appointed agency identify medicines and procedures best suited for various conditions.
Palin resigned as Alaska governor on July 26 with nearly 18 months left in her term. She cited not only the numerous ethics complaints that had been filed against her also her wish not to be a lame duck after the first-term governor decided not to seek re-election next year.
Palin, popular with conservatives in the Republican party, has said she wants to build a right-of-center coalition, and there is speculation she will seek the presidency in 2012. In the two weeks since she resigned, Palin has made only one public appearance, giving a Second Amendment rights speech last Saturday before a gun owners group in Anchorage.
Palin or her aides post notes on her Facebook account about once or twice a week, usually to set out policy statements, issue news releases or refute rumors circulating on the Internet.
Palin also has been largely silent before Friday's Facebook post. She was a voracious user of the social networking site Twitter, and promised to keep her supporters updated with a new private account after she left office. But that hasn't happened, leaving some of her fans begging for updates in the past two weeks.
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Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar in Washington contributed to this report.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
You guys really got some class. I would really love to see any of you try to govern.
a state especially Alaska. I just don't get the hatred you guys have for her.It really shows what kind of people you all are.
She proves anyone is capable of being governor.......anyone. Its not hatred.....its the utter loss of understanding that anyone would seriously consider her to lead anything.
-- Sarah Palin urged the teenage couple to let Todd and her adopt the baby they were expecting; Johnston theorizes that this was because she didn't want people to know her daughter got pregnant. "She was nagging -- she wouldn't give up."
-- The governor is not the outdoorswoman she seemed: "I've never seen her touch a fishing pole. She had a gun in her bedroom and one day she asked me to show her how to shoot it. I asked her what kind of gun it was, and she said she didn't know."
-- But no bookworm either: "Once in a blue moon, I'd see her reading a book, and I've never even seen her read a newspaper in my life. The Frontiersman and the Anchorage Daily News were always there in the morning, but the only one who looked through them was Todd."
-- The Palins slept apart (Todd "in the living room, on his little black recliner, with the TV going in the background -- usually with the news or an Ultimate Fighting Championship match on -- wearing clothes he wore that same day") and dropped the "d" word when fighting ("Todd would say, 'All right, do you want a divorce? Is that what you want? Let's do it! Sign the papers!' They'd either stop and be fine or Sarah would go to her room. That's just how it was with them.")
-- Sarah Palin seemed to dote more on her new grandson, Tripp, than on her own infant, Trig. "Sarah has a weird sense of humor. . . . Sarah would call Trig -- who was born with Down syndrome -- 'my little Down's baby.' . . . and sometimes say, playing around, 'No, I don't want the retarded baby -- I want the other one,' and pick up Tripp. That was just her -- even her kids were used to it."
Peace
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Why do media outlets keep giving that kid money to talk?
It takes a special kind of prick to publicly trash your kid's grandparents (whether it's true or not).
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Why do media outlets keep giving that kid money to talk?
It takes a special kind of prick to publicly trash your kid's grandparents (whether it's true or not).
Seems he had a bone to pick and I gather if money wasn't offered he wouldn't be heard from at all. It does give a bit of insight to the world of the Palins. All that has happened to the Palins in the last year has to affect their marriage in one way or another.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
With the exception of the quote regarding the "retarded one", I don't think there's anything written here that people didn't already suspect. It's been overtly apparent to me that she is a liar and not the person she attempted to portray.
The comment about the downs syndrome baby, however, is heartbreaking and beyond what I have imagined her to be. :evil:
~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
Henry David Thoreau
With the exception of the quote regarding the "retarded one", I don't think there's anything written here that people didn't already suspect. It's been overtly apparent to me that she is a liar and not the person she attempted to portray.
The comment about the downs syndrome baby, however, is heartbreaking and beyond what I have imagined her to be. :evil:
As a mom to a daughter with Down Syndrome, I agree, reading this part is purely heartbreaking to read...whether it's true or not. It's no secret that Palin's done nothing for those with special needs in Alaska, however. She's cut funding for special ed. twice in the last few years.
- because us whom lean a bit to the right...
Whom on here cannot love the Bunny?
Grammar Police! Do you mean, "We who lean?" You have added the word whom to most of your posts in this thread. You should see the Spelling and Grammar thread in AET.
When someone knocks at the door, do you ask, "Whom is it?"
Do you correct the title of the show Doctor Who by calling it Doctor Whom?
Do you refer to a band called The Whom?
Should PJ be singing Whom We Are?
Is whom the sixth W after who, what, where, when, and why?
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
it just goes to show that any moron with a public life can write a book and get it published. i can't wait to hear some of the pearls of wisdom this book contains.....is it written at a 5th grade reading level? you betcha ....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I would answer you - MY definition of Liberal versus Leftest on this thread - except it would only bring even more negative responses. You already know - being former military (We - my husband and I are former military, too). I knew there was a reason I didn't want to argue with you. I would love to hear your (long) story -so please feel free to P.M. me. You served this country - therefore - I can never say anything negative about you. You've earned the right, dude. Regardless of your current opinion. I was a complete Lib once upon a time. I'm not anymore. My opinion doesn't matter (on this websight) anyway. Thanks for serving - as corny as they may sound - I truly mean it.
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
Did you really quote yourself to give yourself props about how insightful you are?
if ya can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. and she got out of the kitchen. its just so typical of her. if she can't get her way she will quit. the lame duck thing was complete bs. me being a liberal i felt like it would be fun to have a laugh at her expense, but the american citizen in me feels obligated to let her have it. she quit on her state. she was a leader of one of the 50 states, a governor, the highest position in each state and she walked away from that and she walked out on the citizens of alaska. it is my duty as an american citizen to criticize her for that. it is your duty as a vet to criticize her for walking out on one of the states that you fought to defend. and her quitting does not bother you? i can see resigning in disgrace or not seeking re-election but she just QUIT. it is disgraceful.
i read as much as i can, some conservative papers and some liberal. what does it matter to you? i read local papers as well as the new york times, the washington post, the guardian when i look at the site, the wall street journal, and usa today to name a few. i work in a doctors office so we subscribe to all of them and i read what i can. you call the media liberal slanted because it tells you thihngs that you do not wnt to hear and tries to hold accountable those that you probably voted for. it is the duty of the press to do that, not just be a shill for an administration like rush, hannnity and fox news. people may be growing tired of the "liberal lies" but we are also tired of the republicans pissing and moaing and doing absolutely NOTHING to try to compromise on anything and they are bringing no new ideas to the table about anything other than the same tax cut bs.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
I love it.
Common ground! How Great is THAT? It's a starting point anyway. Thank you for "bookmarking this cute picture in my name. Can I take that as a compliment? Just know that if I disagree with you politically - it truly isn't personal. I hope you feel the same.
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
I was also a complete Lib , but around 40 (about the same time I became a grandmother) I noticed my
outlook on things had changed..From politics to child raising...I came across this quote that really hit home....
Churchill said "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."
Wow......just wow. :?
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Palin says Obama's health care plan is 'evil'
By MARK THIESSEN Associated Press Writer The Associated Press
Friday, August 7, 2009 8:23 PM EDT
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called President Barack Obama's health plan "downright evil" Friday in her first online comments since leaving office, saying in a Facebook posting that he would create a "death panel" that would deny care to the neediest Americans.
"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care," the former Republican vice presidential candidate wrote.
"Such a system is downright evil," Palin wrote on her page, which has nearly 700,000 supporters. She encouraged her supporters to be engaged in the debate.
The claim that the Democratic health care bills would encourage euthanasia has been circulating on the Internet for weeks and has been echoed by some Republican leaders. Democrats from Obama on down have dismissed it as a distortion. The nonpartisan group FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania says the claim is false.
The allegation appears to be based on a provision of the House bill that would require Medicare to pay for end-of-life counseling sessions, on a voluntary basis, for beneficiaries who want the service. Medicare already covers hospice care. And legislation passed by Congress in 1990 requires that patients be asked if they have a living will.
Obama addressed the controversy during a July 28 AARP-sponsored town hall.
"Nobody is going to be forcing you to make a set of decisions on end-of-life care based on some bureaucratic law in Washington," he said.
An e-mail sent to Palin's spokeswoman to confirm authorship of the Facebook posting was not immediately returned Friday. There was no immediate reply to phone messages left late Friday with the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office seeking comment on Palin's remarks.
Republican criticism has also included claims that the reform plans will lead to rationing, or the government determining which medical procedures a patient can have.
However, millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover. Denying coverage for certain procedures might increase under proposals to have a government-appointed agency identify medicines and procedures best suited for various conditions.
Palin resigned as Alaska governor on July 26 with nearly 18 months left in her term. She cited not only the numerous ethics complaints that had been filed against her also her wish not to be a lame duck after the first-term governor decided not to seek re-election next year.
Palin, popular with conservatives in the Republican party, has said she wants to build a right-of-center coalition, and there is speculation she will seek the presidency in 2012. In the two weeks since she resigned, Palin has made only one public appearance, giving a Second Amendment rights speech last Saturday before a gun owners group in Anchorage.
Palin or her aides post notes on her Facebook account about once or twice a week, usually to set out policy statements, issue news releases or refute rumors circulating on the Internet.
Palin also has been largely silent before Friday's Facebook post. She was a voracious user of the social networking site Twitter, and promised to keep her supporters updated with a new private account after she left office. But that hasn't happened, leaving some of her fans begging for updates in the past two weeks.
———
Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar in Washington contributed to this report.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It takes a special kind of prick to publicly trash your kid's grandparents (whether it's true or not).
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Seems he had a bone to pick and I gather if money wasn't offered he wouldn't be heard from at all. It does give a bit of insight to the world of the Palins. All that has happened to the Palins in the last year has to affect their marriage in one way or another.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The comment about the downs syndrome baby, however, is heartbreaking and beyond what I have imagined her to be. :evil:
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
Henry David Thoreau
Grammar Police! Do you mean, "We who lean?" You have added the word whom to most of your posts in this thread. You should see the Spelling and Grammar thread in AET.
When someone knocks at the door, do you ask, "Whom is it?"
Do you correct the title of the show Doctor Who by calling it Doctor Whom?
Do you refer to a band called The Whom?
Should PJ be singing Whom We Are?
Is whom the sixth W after who, what, where, when, and why?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."