In honor of Sarah Palin stepping down...

YourDirtisMyfood

Holy shit. This I've never seen before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caGjG_9n ... re=related

weenie

prfctlefts wrote:

You guys really got some class. I would really love to see any of you try to govern.
a state especially Alaska. I just don't get the hatred you guys have for her.It really shows what kind of people you all are.

Either you "see" the ineptitude and stupidity that comes out of her, or you don't. Hate has nothing to do with it. It's an objective assessment. Some people are smarter than others and some are not. It's a fact of life that we all live with. Those who see her as stupid and ill-equipped to run anything, much less a government, view her with brain power, not emotion.

tybird

weenie wrote:

Some people are smarter than others

Psst.....she's talking about me. :twisted:

WaveCameCrashin

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

You guys really got some class. I would really love to see any of you try to govern.
a state especially Alaska. I just don't get the hatred you guys have for her.It really shows what kind of people you all are.

refresh my memory again, why is alaska so hard to govern now? how does its population compare to states like texas and california again?

she is a complete tool. i hate her because she makes mistakes and breaks the law and then blames the media for reporting it when she gets caught. that is a public office she held before she quit and she is accountable to that public. it is the public's right to know these things.

hey sarah barracuda, a few words of advice...if you do not want to be scrutinized, do not have a public life and do not be so ambitious. and do not use your kids as a campaign tool and example of how abstinence only education works when your own daughter gets knocked up.

if i am a bad person for not supporting or buying into the words of a hypocrate then what kind of a person does it make those that do?

I really feel sorry for peoplle like you, Please tell me what laws she has broken Do you hate everybody that makes mistakes, You must really Hate yourself then,unless you're perfect.

Yeah I agree anyone who runs for office should be scrutinized, but not the treatment that she and her family have gotten.And I strongly disagree with you on her using her kids as campaign tools. So what she should have just left her kids at home :roll: Yeah I can see that now. The media and people like you would have accused her of child neglect or some kind of other B.S. So how many parents out there have been outspoken about something like drugs for example and their own kid is getting high ? Maybe Joe Biden and his daughter.. OOPS forgot about that.

tybird

prfctlefts wrote:

I really feel sorry for peoplle like you, Please tell me what laws she has broken Do you hate everybody that makes mistakes, You must really Hate yourself then,unless you're perfect.

Yeah I agree anyone who runs for office should be scrutinized, but not the treatment that she and her family have gotten.And I strongly disagree with you on her using her kids as campaign tools. So what she should have just left her kids at home :roll: Yeah I can see that now. The media and people like you would have accused her of child neglect or some kind of other B.S. So how many parents out there have been outspoken about something like drugs for example and their own kid is getting high ? Maybe Joe Biden and his daughter.. OOPS forgot about that.

Please...Joe Biden is a fucking party stooge....he almost cost the Obama ticket my vote....till Palin the anti-environmentalist came along.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

prfctlefts wrote:

You guys really got some class. I would really love to see any of you try to govern.
a state especially Alaska. I just don't get the hatred you guys have for her.It really shows what kind of people you all are.

i think i could do a better job. i know what a lame duck is, which already puts me ahead of her.

tybird

MrSmith wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

You guys really got some class. I would really love to see any of you try to govern.
a state especially Alaska. I just don't get the hatred you guys have for her.It really shows what kind of people you all are.

i think i could do a better job. i know what a lame duck is, which already puts me ahead of her.

Lame ducks don't last long in the wild, eh... :twisted:

weenie

tybird wrote:

weenie wrote:

Some people are smarter than others

Psst.....she's talking about me. :twisted:

Based on posts I've seen from you over the years, yeah, I'm talking about you along with others I see regular posts from on the board.

gimmesometruth27

prfctlefts wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

You guys really got some class. I would really love to see any of you try to govern.
a state especially Alaska. I just don't get the hatred you guys have for her.It really shows what kind of people you all are.

refresh my memory again, why is alaska so hard to govern now? how does its population compare to states like texas and california again?

she is a complete tool. i hate her because she makes mistakes and breaks the law and then blames the media for reporting it when she gets caught. that is a public office she held before she quit and she is accountable to that public. it is the public's right to know these things.

hey sarah barracuda, a few words of advice...if you do not want to be scrutinized, do not have a public life and do not be so ambitious. and do not use your kids as a campaign tool and example of how abstinence only education works when your own daughter gets knocked up.

if i am a bad person for not supporting or buying into the words of a hypocrate then what kind of a person does it make those that do?

I really feel sorry for peoplle like you, Please tell me what laws she has broken Do you hate everybody that makes mistakes, You must really Hate yourself then,unless you're perfect.

Yeah I agree anyone who runs for office should be scrutinized, but not the treatment that she and her family have gotten.And I strongly disagree with you on her using her kids as campaign tools. So what she should have just left her kids at home :roll: Yeah I can see that now. The media and people like you would have accused her of child neglect or some kind of other B.S. So how many parents out there have been outspoken about something like drugs for example and their own kid is getting high ? Maybe Joe Biden and his daughter.. OOPS forgot about that.

you feel sorry for people like me? why is that? because i can sift through people's BS when they say it? because i think with my brain and do my own research instead of doing what some political party tells me i should do or think? i should not have to tell you the laws she has broken, or been accused of breaking. they are a matter of public record so look it up if you want to know. she cited her legal defense bills as one of the reasons she left office early. if she has done nothing wrong then why are there so many ethics complaints against her? please answer me that one. surely it is not because she is so perfect that they have to try to dig something up on her to sabotage her career.. she has used campaign funds for clothes and travel expenses for one, which is not legal. she is also using money from her PAC for legal defense, which is also illegal. its funny how you call these ethics violations "mistakes". i am sure that any politician is adept enough at keeping themselves from getting caught redhanded then innocently claim a "mistake" or "oversight" when it is clearly an abuse of power. by the way, i am not perfect and i have never claimed to be. i make mistakes every day. another thing i am not is self-righteous, which so many people on your side are. sarah palin is one of the worst of them as well.

her family got alot of abuse, but every single bit or it was deserved and brought on by herself. she COMPLETELY used her kids as campaign tools. baby trig, "the special needs one", track the all american boy who was going to fight in the war, and bristol the willing teenage mom who "chose" to have her baby. give me a fucking break. it was a cold calculation to play to the women that could relate to her as a mother and a profesional, and a cold calculation to play on the "patriotism factor" but all of that was forgotten when she opened her mouth and everyone realized she was full of shit. you know me so well.... :roll: i would not have accused her of child neglect, i might have respected her for keeping her kids out of the spotlight. but when you are an opportunistic little slug trying to advance your political career like she was i can see why she might want to pull out all of the stops and expose her kids to that abuse.

the problem with your analogy about the antidrug speaker and the stoner kid is completely off base here. it is expected that that might be a possibility when that person speaks. what is not acceptable is when someone campaigning to be vice president, who should be held to a higher standard than an anti drug crusader, tells me how to live my life when she can't even convince her own daughter that sex and being a teenage mom is bad. get your own family's shit in line then try to talk to me.

weenie

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

refresh my memory again, why is alaska so hard to govern now? how does its population compare to states like texas and california again?

she is a complete tool. i hate her because she makes mistakes and breaks the law and then blames the media for reporting it when she gets caught. that is a public office she held before she quit and she is accountable to that public. it is the public's right to know these things.

hey sarah barracuda, a few words of advice...if you do not want to be scrutinized, do not have a public life and do not be so ambitious. and do not use your kids as a campaign tool and example of how abstinence only education works when your own daughter gets knocked up.

if i am a bad person for not supporting or buying into the words of a hypocrate then what kind of a person does it make those that do?

I really feel sorry for peoplle like you, Please tell me what laws she has broken Do you hate everybody that makes mistakes, You must really Hate yourself then,unless you're perfect.

Yeah I agree anyone who runs for office should be scrutinized, but not the treatment that she and her family have gotten.And I strongly disagree with you on her using her kids as campaign tools. So what she should have just left her kids at home :roll: Yeah I can see that now. The media and people like you would have accused her of child neglect or some kind of other B.S. So how many parents out there have been outspoken about something like drugs for example and their own kid is getting high ? Maybe Joe Biden and his daughter.. OOPS forgot about that.

you feel sorry for people like me? why is that? because i can sift through people's BS when they say it? because i think with my brain and do my own research instead of doing what some political party tells me i should do or think? i should not have to tell you the laws she has broken, or been accused of breaking. they are a matter of public record so look it up if you want to know. she cited her legal defense bills as one of the reasons she left office early. if she has done nothing wrong then why are there so many ethics complaints against her? please answer me that one. surely it is not because she is so perfect that they have to try to dig something up on her to sabotage her career.. she has used campaign funds for clothes and travel expenses for one, which is not legal. she is also using money from her PAC for legal defense, which is also illegal. its funny how you call these ethics violations "mistakes". i am sure that any politician is adept enough at keeping themselves from getting caught redhanded then innocently claim a "mistake" or "oversight" when it is clearly an abuse of power. by the way, i am not perfect and i have never claimed to be. i make mistakes every day. another thing i am not is self-righteous, which so many people on your side are. sarah palin is one of the worst of them as well.

her family got alot of abuse, but every single bit or it was deserved and brought on by herself. she COMPLETELY used her kids as campaign tools. baby trig, "the special needs one", track the all american boy who was going to fight in the war, and bristol the willing teenage mom who "chose" to have her baby. give me a fucking break. it was a cold calculation to play to the women that could relate to her as a mother and a profesional, and a cold calculation to play on the "patriotism factor" but all of that was forgotten when she opened her mouth and everyone realized she was full of shit. you know me so well.... :roll: i would not have accused her of child neglect, i might have respected her for keeping her kids out of the spotlight. but when you are an opportunistic little slug trying to advance your political career like she was i can see why she might want to pull out all of the stops and expose her kids to that abuse.

the problem with your analogy about the antidrug speaker and the stoner kid is completely off base here. it is expected that that might be a possibility when that person speaks. what is not acceptable is when someone campaigning to be vice president, who should be held to a higher standard than an anti drug crusader, tells me how to live my life when she can't even convince her own daughter that sex and being a teenage mom is bad. get your own family's shit in line then try to talk to me.

Awesome post gimmesometruth27. Well put and spot on.

g under p

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

refresh my memory again, why is alaska so hard to govern now? how does its population compare to states like texas and california again?

she is a complete tool. i hate her because she makes mistakes and breaks the law and then blames the media for reporting it when she gets caught. that is a public office she held before she quit and she is accountable to that public. it is the public's right to know these things.

hey sarah barracuda, a few words of advice...if you do not want to be scrutinized, do not have a public life and do not be so ambitious. and do not use your kids as a campaign tool and example of how abstinence only education works when your own daughter gets knocked up.

if i am a bad person for not supporting or buying into the words of a hypocrate then what kind of a person does it make those that do?

I really feel sorry for peoplle like you, Please tell me what laws she has broken Do you hate everybody that makes mistakes, You must really Hate yourself then,unless you're perfect.

Yeah I agree anyone who runs for office should be scrutinized, but not the treatment that she and her family have gotten.And I strongly disagree with you on her using her kids as campaign tools. So what she should have just left her kids at home :roll: Yeah I can see that now. The media and people like you would have accused her of child neglect or some kind of other B.S. So how many parents out there have been outspoken about something like drugs for example and their own kid is getting high ? Maybe Joe Biden and his daughter.. OOPS forgot about that.

you feel sorry for people like me? why is that? because i can sift through people's BS when they say it? because i think with my brain and do my own research instead of doing what some political party tells me i should do or think? i should not have to tell you the laws she has broken, or been accused of breaking. they are a matter of public record so look it up if you want to know. she cited her legal defense bills as one of the reasons she left office early. if she has done nothing wrong then why are there so many ethics complaints against her? please answer me that one. surely it is not because she is so perfect that they have to try to dig something up on her to sabotage her career.. she has used campaign funds for clothes and travel expenses for one, which is not legal. she is also using money from her PAC for legal defense, which is also illegal. its funny how you call these ethics violations "mistakes". i am sure that any politician is adept enough at keeping themselves from getting caught redhanded then innocently claim a "mistake" or "oversight" when it is clearly an abuse of power. by the way, i am not perfect and i have never claimed to be. i make mistakes every day. another thing i am not is self-righteous, which so many people on your side are. sarah palin is one of the worst of them as well.

her family got alot of abuse, but every single bit or it was deserved and brought on by herself. she COMPLETELY used her kids as campaign tools. baby trig, "the special needs one", track the all american boy who was going to fight in the war, and bristol the willing teenage mom who "chose" to have her baby. give me a fucking break. it was a cold calculation to play to the women that could relate to her as a mother and a profesional, and a cold calculation to play on the "patriotism factor" but all of that was forgotten when she opened her mouth and everyone realized she was full of shit. you know me so well.... :roll: i would not have accused her of child neglect, i might have respected her for keeping her kids out of the spotlight. but when you are an opportunistic little slug trying to advance your political career like she was i can see why she might want to pull out all of the stops and expose her kids to that abuse.

the problem with your analogy about the antidrug speaker and the stoner kid is completely off base here. it is expected that that might be a possibility when that person speaks. what is not acceptable is when someone campaigning to be vice president, who should be held to a higher standard than an anti drug crusader, tells me how to live my life when she can't even convince her own daughter that sex and being a teenage mom is bad. get your own family's shit in line then try to talk to me.

DAMN, just about nailed it right there and I like Sarah Palin but just NOT governing my state or country.

Peace

keeponrockin

I nominate gimmesometruth for post of the year..

tybird

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

you feel sorry for people like me? why is that? because i can sift through people's BS when they say it? because i think with my brain and do my own research instead of doing what some political party tells me i should do or think? i should not have to tell you the laws she has broken, or been accused of breaking. they are a matter of public record so look it up if you want to know. she cited her legal defense bills as one of the reasons she left office early. if she has done nothing wrong then why are there so many ethics complaints against her? please answer me that one. surely it is not because she is so perfect that they have to try to dig something up on her to sabotage her career.. she has used campaign funds for clothes and travel expenses for one, which is not legal. she is also using money from her PAC for legal defense, which is also illegal. its funny how you call these ethics violations "mistakes". i am sure that any politician is adept enough at keeping themselves from getting caught redhanded then innocently claim a "mistake" or "oversight" when it is clearly an abuse of power. by the way, i am not perfect and i have never claimed to be. i make mistakes every day. another thing i am not is self-righteous, which so many people on your side are. sarah palin is one of the worst of them as well.

her family got alot of abuse, but every single bit or it was deserved and brought on by herself. she COMPLETELY used her kids as campaign tools. baby trig, "the special needs one", track the all american boy who was going to fight in the war, and bristol the willing teenage mom who "chose" to have her baby. give me a fucking break. it was a cold calculation to play to the women that could relate to her as a mother and a profesional, and a cold calculation to play on the "patriotism factor" but all of that was forgotten when she opened her mouth and everyone realized she was full of shit. you know me so well.... :roll: i would not have accused her of child neglect, i might have respected her for keeping her kids out of the spotlight. but when you are an opportunistic little slug trying to advance your political career like she was i can see why she might want to pull out all of the stops and expose her kids to that abuse.

the problem with your analogy about the antidrug speaker and the stoner kid is completely off base here. it is expected that that might be a possibility when that person speaks. what is not acceptable is when someone campaigning to be vice president, who should be held to a higher standard than an anti drug crusader, tells me how to live my life when she can't even convince her own daughter that sex and being a teenage mom is bad. get your own family's shit in line then try to talk to me.

"opportunistic little slug" brought a tear to my eye, man...beautiful

tybird

weenie wrote:

tybird wrote:

weenie wrote:

Some people are smarter than others

Psst.....she's talking about me. :twisted:

Based on posts I've seen from you over the years, yeah, I'm talking about you along with others I see regular posts from on the board.

Thank you... :shock: :oops: :P :twisted:

Cosmo

The problem with Sarah Palin was... she was on a major party ticket for the second highest office in this land. A person seeking such a powerful seat NEEDS to be scrutinized as a person... specifically, their character and judgement skill and flaws because a lot of people will be affected by that person's decisions.
Now... regarding Palin's Family...
Sarah Palin brought them into this when she tried to portray the Palin household as a model All-american Family. Whether this was Palin's strategy or the Republican Party's strategy... we do not know. BUT... that was how the Palin's were introduced to us. Gov. Palin dragged her daughter, Bristol into the fray with her opinions on 'abstinence only' sex education in the public school systems. If an upper class, all-American, God Fearing Christian family raises a teenaged daughter in an abstinence only sex education environment... and ended up with a pregnant, un-wed teenaged daughter... what chances do middle or lower class single parent families living in large metropolitan cities have?
And just read the speech.... in full context. Palin talks about how she gave back Government money to Alaskans as part of a rebate for energy taxes.. then, says she denied accepting Government stimulus money to help the citizens of Alaska. She goes on about the natural beauty of Alaska... the awesome beauty of God's work (which she is absolutely correct in her assessment)... yet, she wants to drill in that wilderness. How do people... Palin supporters reconcile those blatantly hypocritical lines of thinking?
And she goes on and on about being a fighter (a so-called 'barracuda' or 'pit-bull' during her campaign)... but what is she DOING? She is QUITTING!!! What do you call someone who QUITS something? A FIGHTER??? NO!!! A QUITTER!!!
THAT is what people have against Sarah Palin. If she were just some hockey mom insurance adjuster for Allstate... no problem. but, when her aspirations are to become a leader of a State or our Nation... We, the people who will be subjected to this person's decisions, have to decide whether or not we want this person to lead us.
...
That being said... to Palin supporters... what are the reasons why you support Sarah Palin as a political leader?

WaveCameCrashin

This is for gimmesometruth http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/08/palin-fends-off-all-ethics-charges-brought-since-0/

and also the clothes she and her family used on the campaign trail were bought by the RNC not her campaign contributions,and she gave them all back when the elections were over. And when you claim whatever it is the hell you said about my party being self righteous. Look man Im not a registered Republican and I suer as fuck aint no Demorat.
Im a registered INDEPENDENT. ok. and I wouldn't have voted for her anyway because I don't think she was fit to be VP or HIllary for that matter. Im simply pointing out all the unnecessary bashing here and her family took on, But It's obvious that you and everyone else here seem to think it's o.k I for one don't.

WaveCameCrashin

Cosmo wrote:

The problem with Sarah Palin was... she was on a major party ticket for the second highest office in this land. A person seeking such a powerful seat NEEDS to be scrutinized as a person... specifically, their character and judgement skill and flaws because a lot of people will be affected by that person's decisions.
Now... regarding Palin's Family...
Sarah Palin brought them into this when she tried to portray the Palin household as a model All-american Family. Whether this was Palin's strategy or the Republican Party's strategy... we do not know. BUT... that was how the Palin's were introduced to us. Gov. Palin dragged her daughter, Bristol into the fray with her opinions on 'abstinence only' sex education in the public school systems. If an upper class, all-American, God Fearing Christian family raises a teenaged daughter in an abstinence only sex education environment... and ended up with a pregnant, un-wed teenaged daughter... what chances do middle or lower class single parent families living in large metropolitan cities have?
And just read the speech.... in full context. Palin talks about how she gave back Government money to Alaskans as part of a rebate for energy taxes.. then, says she denied accepting Government stimulus money to help the citizens of Alaska. She goes on about the natural beauty of Alaska... the awesome beauty of God's work (which she is absolutely correct in her assessment)... yet, she wants to drill in that wilderness. How do people... Palin supporters reconcile those blatantly hypocritical lines of thinking?
And she goes on and on about being a fighter (a so-called 'barracuda' or 'pit-bull' during her campaign)... but what is she DOING? She is QUITTING!!! What do you call someone who QUITS something? A FIGHTER??? NO!!! A QUITTER!!!
THAT is what people have against Sarah Palin. If she were just some hockey mom insurance adjuster for Allstate... no problem. but, when her aspirations are to become a leader of a State or our Nation... We, the people who will be subjected to this person's decisions, have to decide whether or not we want this person to lead us.
...
That being said... to Palin supporters... what are the reasons why you support Sarah Palin as a political leader?

As far as her wanting to drill in alaska I don't see what the big deal is .. I mean hell we already have a major pipeline running through there. I have never understood people that bitch and fucking moan about gas prices but the second we start to consider Anwar people start freaking out like the whole damn state is going to be over run with oil rigs. :roll:

WaveCameCrashin

Cosmo wrote:

alin talks about how she gave back Government money to Alaskans as part of a rebate for energy taxes.. then, says she denied accepting Government stimulus money to help the citizens of Alaska. She goes on about t

The money she gave back to the people of Alaska came from the Oil companies. That has nothing to do with Government Stimulus.

Cosmo wrote:

The problem with Sarah Palin was... she was on a major party ticket for the second highest office in this land. A person seeking such a powerful seat NEEDS to be scrutinized as a person... specifically, their character and judgement skill and flaws because a lot of people will be affected by that person's decisions.

I agree but her family should have been off limits. Think about it... We didn't hear one damn thing about Obama's kids. God forbid

Cosmo

prfctlefts wrote:

As far as her wanting to drill in alaska I don't see what the big deal is .. I mean hell we already have a major pipeline running through there. I have never understood people that bitch and fucking moan about gas prices but the second we start to consider Anwar people start freaking out like the whole damn state is going to be over run with oil rigs. :roll:

...
Nothing to do with gas prices (ROLLS FUCKING EYES). Everything to do with gushing over the natural beauty of the Wilds of Alaska from one side of your mouth... and wanting to exploit those same landscapes from the other.
Also... the oil reserves are Strategic Oil Reserves that are to be tapped in case we go to a big war.. with a China... there will be a power grab for the Middle East because of it's resources. It would be much easier to tap resources withing our grasp, than one that is on the other side of the planet.
Jets and tanks run on oil. The Strategic Oil Reserves are to save the nation, if case of a large scale conventional war... not just to save you a couple of bucks so you can continue to sit in a McDonalds drive thru line because you are too fucking lazy to park the fucking car.

Cosmo

prfctlefts wrote:

I agree but her family should have been off limits. Think about it... We didn't hear one damn thing about Obama's kids. God forbid

...
It was the Palin's that dragged their kids into the fray. They show themselves off as this model of Middle America... wholesome, religious, moral, patriotic, etc... and her views on public educaton and especially, the 'Abstinence Only' sex education. Apparently, it didn't work within her own family... why should anyone else in this country follow and obviously flawed way of thinking? Then, to try to spin it into this abortion thing and how strong Bristol was for deciding to keep her child and marry her boyfriend... which was obvious to even the casual observer that this was a shotgun wedding at best. Yes.. it was probably Bristol's decision.. i don't know. But, I have strong suspecions that there was heavy handed coersion involved by the Palin parents and the Republican National Party.
...
And the Obama girls WOULD have been in the media crap... IF the Obama's dragged them into the spotlight as little angels... only to discover that one of them is a chronic fire-bug that tormented small animals. The Obama girls were presented as nothing more than little girls.
The Palin's would have been better served had they presented themselves as every other American family... imperfect, dysfunctional and flawed. THAT is closer to the reality of Middle America.