This is Pearl Jam's ticket system, their club and their (the Band's) wishes. If you don't like the rules then take your ball and go home. For all three previous Toronto shows (05 and 2 in 06) I was in row 24...It won't make a difference if I'm in row 28 this time...I still get to see the band, and I'm at least 1 row closer then the people who bought their tickets from ticketmaster. That's good enough for me.
There are two different discussions going on on this thread - whether the lottery's a good thing or not, and whether the Ten Club did the right thing by arbitrarily changing the ticket distribution method after the on-sale. These shows were billed as seniority only - it even specifically said that newer members shouldn't expect to be up close.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
This just comes down to false advertisement and has anyone from 10C come on here to state their mistake i'm all for what's good for the community but it did state" seniority from front to back " ....nothing surprizes me anymore from 10C as good as they are some things you just have to shake you're head at ....
This just comes down to false advertisement and has anyone from 10C come on here to state their mistake i'm all for what's good for the community but it did state" seniority from front to back " ....nothing surprizes me anymore from 10C as good as they are some things you just have to shake you're head at ....
+1. In regards to what some people above me have said, I don't want a refund. I just don't think it's too much to ask to have the terms for something I purchased remain constant, or to be notified if they change. It would take them about a minute and a half to have Santos or another employee make a sticky, notifying us all that plans have changed, they have decided to use the lottery system for the Toronto and Chicago shows.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
This just comes down to false advertisement and has anyone from 10C come on here to state their mistake i'm all for what's good for the community but it did state" seniority from front to back " ....nothing surprizes me anymore from 10C as good as they are some things you just have to shake you're head at ....
+1. In regards to what some people above me have said, I don't want a refund. I just don't think it's too much to ask to have the terms for something I purchased remain constant, or to be notified if they change. It would take them about a minute and a half to have Santos or another employee make a sticky, notifying us all that plans have changed, they have decided to use the lottery system for the Toronto and Chicago shows.
Exactly i purchased tickets to Toronto under the pretense that tickets were being alloted by seniority ,do i mind lottery no even with lottery i still get great seats .....just not cool on their part to have done this ...
Did anybody think it was supposed to be a surprise. Maybe it kinda slipped their minds and decided later that they thought it would be a nice surprise to not tell anybody.
I thought the original announcement was pretty clear, but apparently not. Why were people emailing ??s about the lotto for the Chicago and TO shows if it was apparent from the announcement?
If the presence of the lottery would have made you not buy tickets, keep bitching, if not, live and let live.
Did anybody think it was supposed to be a surprise. Maybe it kinda slipped their minds and decided later that they thought it would be a nice surprise to not tell anybody.
I thought the original announcement was pretty clear, but apparently not. Why were people emailing ??s about the lotto for the Chicago and TO shows if it was apparent from the announcement?
If the presence of the lottery would have made you not buy tickets, keep bitching, if not, live and let live.
I'm not trying to be a dick here Dewie but let's say your membership number is 222XXX. Let's say Ten Club took 200000 - 300000 and had a lottery with those tix and ticketmaster seats - not telling you ahead of time, no problem?
Again not trying to be a dick and I see that the random rows are here to stay. But when I saw that TO and Chicago did not have them in the announcement I got a little excited that my lower number would be beneficial especially in TO. Still will be there and having fun as who knows, maybe I'll win the lottery, just wishing this was all upfront. (Coming from a person who got screwed at Grand Rapids).
Peace
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Did anybody think it was supposed to be a surprise. Maybe it kinda slipped their minds and decided later that they thought it would be a nice surprise to not tell anybody.
I thought the original announcement was pretty clear, but apparently not. Why were people emailing ??s about the lotto for the Chicago and TO shows if it was apparent from the announcement?
If the presence of the lottery would have made you not buy tickets, keep bitching, if not, live and let live.
I'm not trying to be a dick here Dewie but let's say your membership number is 222XXX. Let's say Ten Club took 200000 - 300000 and had a lottery with those tix and ticketmaster seats - not telling you ahead of time, no problem?
Again not trying to be a dick and I see that the random rows are here to stay. But when I saw that TO and Chicago did not have them in the announcement I got a little excited that my lower number would be beneficial especially in TO. Still will be there and having fun as who knows, maybe I'll win the lottery, just wishing this was all upfront. (Coming from a person who got screwed at Grand Rapids).
Peace
Well the first part of your statement is so far outta this world, it's not even a legit comparison. Why would tm tix be a part of a fanclub lottery?
Am I missing something? Aren't they basically putting all the 10c numbers for the show in a hat and drawing out numbers to fill rows 1,2,9, 10 , with the rest goin by seniority?
If I had a decent number, I would have seen them 15-20x from up close and would have no problem movin back a few rows. I've been to 35 shows(6 by PJ) and the last thing to take away from my enjoyment of a show is how close to the stage I am. I admit, I've paid extra for good seats at the Fox in St Lou in 04, but all tix were pricy so I decided to splurge, just a bit, and get to see them from closer than I'll ever get to see them again, but now maybe not.
Yeah I admit it's a far out scenario. I'm just saying if you purchase anything and get something less you're disappointed, that's all. Again I may win the lottery, who knows. I've had great seats and I've had shit seats that's neither here nor there. I do NOT have a problem with the lottery per se. Just let us know before tickets are sold, that's it...Not wanting anything more than that.
This thread should be deleted now
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Either way, based on how fast tix for this recent round of dates are selling out, its clear that Chicago is going to have a HUGE fan club attendance (tix were available days after the onsale). These are going to be special shows. As far as the lottery, the chances of winning are that much slimmer with this many fan clubbers in attendance.
Either way, based on how fast tix for this recent round of dates are selling out, its clear that Chicago is going to have a HUGE fan club attendance (tix were available days after the onsale). These are going to be special shows. As far as the lottery, the chances of winning are that much slimmer with this many fan clubbers in attendance.
+1. Here's hoping for a KICK-ASS crowd full of energy!
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
just the opposite
Maybe some like me thought a minute or two about NOT buying Chicago cause of their high #'s and the great fan club turn out expected (like toronto 05)
but then like every good faithful fan I thought what the hell- I'll be in the house and thats all that really matters-
I wonder if thats how the people with the low #'s feel- its just good to be in the house or do they have to inter act with the band to really enjoy
just the opposite
Maybe some like me thought a minute or two about NOT buying Chicago cause of their high #'s and the great fan club turn out expected (like toronto 05)
but then like every good faithful fan I thought what the hell- I'll be in the house and thats all that really matters-
I wonder if thats how the people with the low #'s feel- its just good to be in the house or do they have to inter act with the band to really enjoy
I've seen it both ways. I've seen low number fans who look bored and I've seen higher number fans who want to talk during the show....Just as the argument "having a low number doesn't make you a bigger fan" well it certainly doesn't make you "less" of a fan either
Toronto as always will be rockin! Same as Chicago!
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ah, what? the toronto & chicago show's are 10c lottery style events now? when did this happen? :?
All behind your back, D
A few of us sent emails to 10C, one of us even called.. in any case, we have numerous confirmations that this will be on at the Toronto/Chicago shows, as well as that the lottery will be the norm from here on in.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
ah, what? the toronto & chicago show's are 10c lottery style events now? when did this happen? :?
All behind your back, D
A few of us sent emails to 10C, one of us even called.. in any case, we have numerous confirmations that this will be on at the Toronto/Chicago shows, as well as that the lottery will be the norm from here on in.
We've got another Pearl Jam surprise for you ... Toronto and Chicago!! The band will wrap up their European run with two more shows on the North American continent:
Date - City - Venue
Aug 21 - Toronto, ONT - Molson Amphitheater
Aug 23 - Chicago, IL - United Center
Ten Club has tickets for both shows and a pre-sale will begin on May 4th. You must be an active member as of May 3, 2009 to qualify for the ticket pre-sale. Starting May 6th, any remaining tickets will become available to ALL active members regardless of membership sign up date. The ticket pre-sale will end on May 6th at 3pm Pacific Time.
Pre-sale tickets will be sold online only at https://www.pearljam.com/max with a Visa or Mastercard. No phone orders. Eligible Ten Club members are allowed to purchase two (2) tickets per show. Ten Club tickets are available while supplies last. For wheelchair accessible seating, please purchase your tickets online then contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->.
Ten Club tickets are for reserved seating and will be allocated by seniority. Seat locations will be reserved from the 1st row on the floor, extending back, and the side sections closest to the stage. The longer you have been in the fan club, the closer your seats will be to the stage. Newer members should not expect prime seat locations. Proximity to the stage is contingent on the amount of members in attendance. Seat location is NOT revealed prior to the performance.
Please read the following details before making a ticket purchase:
- Tickets are not mailed in advance. Tickets are distributed at the venue on the day of the show.
- The fan club member must collect the tickets with a valid photo identification. No exceptions.
- Purchasing Ten Club tickets means you agree to all Ten Club ticket policies and distributing procedures.
- Reselling of Ten Club tickets will result in cancellation of ticket purchase and revocation of all future ticket benefits.
- All ticket sales are final. No refunds. No transfers. No exchanges.
- All dates are subject to change.
Toronto Tickets will go on sale to the general public on Fri, May 8th at 2pm local time. Visit this link for details: http://www.ticketmaster.ca.
Chicago Tickets will go on sale to the general public on Sat, May 9th at 11am local time. Visit this link for details: http://www.ticketmaster.com.
Questions about Ten Club tickets can be directed to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> or by calling 800-724-8038 (international rates may apply). Your patience is appreciated.
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I bought based on this being by senority as the email stated. Changing the rules after getting people's cash is low and not something I would expect from Ten Club. I've been a member since 1992. This is how people are treated?
So does this 1-2 and 9-10 thing mean if I'm normally row 2 I will be in 9 or 10 or does it mean I'll be in 1 or 2?
I can see where you might be frustrated but it is a fair way to let fans that have joined in the last 10 years or so have a chance for some kick ass seats....hell man maybe you'll get lucky and get pulled for row 1
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ah, what? the toronto & chicago show's are 10c lottery style events now? when did this happen? :?
All behind your back, D
A few of us sent emails to 10C, one of us even called.. in any case, we have numerous confirmations that this will be on at the Toronto/Chicago shows, as well as that the lottery will be the norm from here on in.
THAT is FANTASTIC news!
i think it's win-win for everyone!
seeing who won, chatting with people who've never been that close before, just the general excitement each time it happens...whether to you, to someone you know, to someone you just run into....it is absolutely BRILLIANT. every single story i have heard or read about here....just so GREAT, and made me really HAPPY to know. i think pj/10c really hit a great balance with this whole lottery idea still mixed with straight-up seniority.
That is not the point. The email clearly stated by senority and now after they sell out the tickets they change the rules. That isn't a cool thing to do to someone who is a 17 year member.
That is not the point. The email clearly stated by senority and now after they sell out the tickets they change the rules. That isn't a cool thing to do to someone who is a 17 year member.
+1. This benefits me, as I have tickets with my 357xxx, but find what they did by not informing members to be unfair, and this is a clear case of false advertising in my opinion. I'm all for the lottery - but I'm also all for the truth being given up front, without having to request it.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
That is not the point. The email clearly stated by senority and now after they sell out the tickets they change the rules. That isn't a cool thing to do to someone who is a 17 year member.
i've dialed the whaambulance. it will arrive shortly
Yep, this is a pretty good guess. I gotta say I've also been a member forever and seeing this change after the announcement is a little disappointing as the lottery definitely affects my seats. I will say however that I do understand the point behind the lottery and it's obviously a great opportunity for those lucky enough to win it. When you were counting on what you are used to and it changes after the fact though it is disappointing but oh well... I chalk it up to what's a couple rows really... I'll still feel blessed for my seats. I'm there for the music and it will rock so... Please release the fixer today. I'm going nuts. Thank you.
That is not the point. The email clearly stated by senority and now after they sell out the tickets they change the rules. That isn't a cool thing to do to someone who is a 17 year member.
i do admit, i did find it surprising since it was NOT stated pre-sale for these cities. however, try not to think about them *doing* something to you, a 17 year fan club member. instead try to see it as them doing more for ALL the fanbase. i mean, if you're in the 10c since 92, i would guess you'll definitely be in row 3 instead of 1 (unless of course you win the lottery and get in row 1 or 2....and NO, it's been clearly stated that no one who should be ahead of rows 9-10 would ever get win those rows, and get pushed back further than they should be)
however, i do understand your frustration, you bought with the understanding of one scenario but it turned out to be another. i wonder if there's anything in the fine print of any of the confirmations or ticket sales info that says that 10c has the option to change the policy at will? i don't recall.
anyhoo.....i am happy it's the norm for the future, good to know....but sure, i do agree it should've been announced before purchase.
I would love to see one of the low 10c number people (normally row 1 or 2) get randomly selected for the lottery and get stuck in 9 or 10...that would be funny...
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Exactly...... I'm sure 10c would oblige.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Exactly i purchased tickets to Toronto under the pretense that tickets were being alloted by seniority ,do i mind lottery no even with lottery i still get great seats .....just not cool on their part to have done this ...
I thought the original announcement was pretty clear, but apparently not. Why were people emailing ??s about the lotto for the Chicago and TO shows if it was apparent from the announcement?
If the presence of the lottery would have made you not buy tickets, keep bitching, if not, live and let live.
I'm not trying to be a dick here Dewie but let's say your membership number is 222XXX. Let's say Ten Club took 200000 - 300000 and had a lottery with those tix and ticketmaster seats - not telling you ahead of time, no problem?
Again not trying to be a dick and I see that the random rows are here to stay. But when I saw that TO and Chicago did not have them in the announcement I got a little excited that my lower number would be beneficial especially in TO. Still will be there and having fun as who knows, maybe I'll win the lottery, just wishing this was all upfront. (Coming from a person who got screwed at Grand Rapids).
Peace
Roberto Clemente.
Well the first part of your statement is so far outta this world, it's not even a legit comparison. Why would tm tix be a part of a fanclub lottery?
Am I missing something? Aren't they basically putting all the 10c numbers for the show in a hat and drawing out numbers to fill rows 1,2,9, 10 , with the rest goin by seniority?
If I had a decent number, I would have seen them 15-20x from up close and would have no problem movin back a few rows. I've been to 35 shows(6 by PJ) and the last thing to take away from my enjoyment of a show is how close to the stage I am. I admit, I've paid extra for good seats at the Fox in St Lou in 04, but all tix were pricy so I decided to splurge, just a bit, and get to see them from closer than I'll ever get to see them again, but now maybe not.
This thread should be deleted now
Roberto Clemente.
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Maybe some like me thought a minute or two about NOT buying Chicago cause of their high #'s and the great fan club turn out expected (like toronto 05)
but then like every good faithful fan I thought what the hell- I'll be in the house and thats all that really matters-
I wonder if thats how the people with the low #'s feel- its just good to be in the house or do they have to inter act with the band to really enjoy
I've seen it both ways. I've seen low number fans who look bored and I've seen higher number fans who want to talk during the show....Just as the argument "having a low number doesn't make you a bigger fan" well it certainly doesn't make you "less" of a fan either
Toronto as always will be rockin! Same as Chicago!
Roberto Clemente.
A few of us sent emails to 10C, one of us even called.. in any case, we have numerous confirmations that this will be on at the Toronto/Chicago shows, as well as that the lottery will be the norm from here on in.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
D'oh! :oops:
Yeah... I'm confused :?: Is it lottery or is it seniority??
This is still posted: http://pearljam.com/news/two-more-pearl ... ates-added
Two More Pearl Jam Tour Dates Added
05.04.09
We've got another Pearl Jam surprise for you ... Toronto and Chicago!! The band will wrap up their European run with two more shows on the North American continent:
Date - City - Venue
Aug 21 - Toronto, ONT - Molson Amphitheater
Aug 23 - Chicago, IL - United Center
Ten Club has tickets for both shows and a pre-sale will begin on May 4th. You must be an active member as of May 3, 2009 to qualify for the ticket pre-sale. Starting May 6th, any remaining tickets will become available to ALL active members regardless of membership sign up date. The ticket pre-sale will end on May 6th at 3pm Pacific Time.
Pre-sale tickets will be sold online only at https://www.pearljam.com/max with a Visa or Mastercard. No phone orders. Eligible Ten Club members are allowed to purchase two (2) tickets per show. Ten Club tickets are available while supplies last. For wheelchair accessible seating, please purchase your tickets online then contact <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->.
Ten Club tickets are for reserved seating and will be allocated by seniority. Seat locations will be reserved from the 1st row on the floor, extending back, and the side sections closest to the stage. The longer you have been in the fan club, the closer your seats will be to the stage. Newer members should not expect prime seat locations. Proximity to the stage is contingent on the amount of members in attendance. Seat location is NOT revealed prior to the performance.
Please read the following details before making a ticket purchase:
- Tickets are not mailed in advance. Tickets are distributed at the venue on the day of the show.
- The fan club member must collect the tickets with a valid photo identification. No exceptions.
- Purchasing Ten Club tickets means you agree to all Ten Club ticket policies and distributing procedures.
- Reselling of Ten Club tickets will result in cancellation of ticket purchase and revocation of all future ticket benefits.
- All ticket sales are final. No refunds. No transfers. No exchanges.
- All dates are subject to change.
Toronto Tickets will go on sale to the general public on Fri, May 8th at 2pm local time. Visit this link for details: http://www.ticketmaster.ca.
Chicago Tickets will go on sale to the general public on Sat, May 9th at 11am local time. Visit this link for details: http://www.ticketmaster.com.
Questions about Ten Club tickets can be directed to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e --> or by calling 800-724-8038 (international rates may apply). Your patience is appreciated.
For wheelchair accessible seating, please call 1-800-724-8038 (international phone charges might apply).
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So does this 1-2 and 9-10 thing mean if I'm normally row 2 I will be in 9 or 10 or does it mean I'll be in 1 or 2?
thats still pretty damn good
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THAT is FANTASTIC news!
i think it's win-win for everyone!
seeing who won, chatting with people who've never been that close before, just the general excitement each time it happens...whether to you, to someone you know, to someone you just run into....it is absolutely BRILLIANT. every single story i have heard or read about here....just so GREAT, and made me really HAPPY to know. i think pj/10c really hit a great balance with this whole lottery idea still mixed with straight-up seniority.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
i've dialed the whaambulance. it will arrive shortly
Yep, this is a pretty good guess. I gotta say I've also been a member forever and seeing this change after the announcement is a little disappointing as the lottery definitely affects my seats. I will say however that I do understand the point behind the lottery and it's obviously a great opportunity for those lucky enough to win it. When you were counting on what you are used to and it changes after the fact though it is disappointing but oh well... I chalk it up to what's a couple rows really... I'll still feel blessed for my seats. I'm there for the music and it will rock so... Please release the fixer today. I'm going nuts. Thank you.
i do admit, i did find it surprising since it was NOT stated pre-sale for these cities. however, try not to think about them *doing* something to you, a 17 year fan club member. instead try to see it as them doing more for ALL the fanbase. i mean, if you're in the 10c since 92, i would guess you'll definitely be in row 3 instead of 1 (unless of course you win the lottery and get in row 1 or 2....and NO, it's been clearly stated that no one who should be ahead of rows 9-10 would ever get win those rows, and get pushed back further than they should be)
however, i do understand your frustration, you bought with the understanding of one scenario but it turned out to be another. i wonder if there's anything in the fine print of any of the confirmations or ticket sales info that says that 10c has the option to change the policy at will? i don't recall.
anyhoo.....i am happy it's the norm for the future, good to know....but sure, i do agree it should've been announced before purchase.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
missing the point entirely...the terms were made clear at time of purchase. the terms changed after the tickets had been purchased. end of story.