PJ becoming an elitist band?

JOEJOEJOE

Elitist - someone who can afford to live a better life then you?

Ledbetterman10

weenie wrote:

by performing shows ONLY in large metropolitan areas (with the exception of the festival shows) and forcing fans to fly to those cities from everywhere? Just curious as to what everyone has to say.

Aside from losing the awesome experience of doing road trips to several concerts as someone pointed out on another thread, this is an odd time with the economy being what it is to ask everyone to fork over money to fly. Philly reps the East, Chicago reps the Midwest and LA reps the West. With the "no plans for shows in 2010 statement", I'm really feeling left out. With the exception of ACL, where they'll probably play for an hour, I'm not able to see any of the concert shows because I haven't had a full-time job in 17 months.

What does everyone think?

Hell 70% of their fanclub is made of of elitist pricks so it only makes sense.

decides2dream

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

weenie wrote:

by performing shows ONLY in large metropolitan areas (with the exception of the festival shows) and forcing fans to fly to those cities from everywhere? Just curious as to what everyone has to say.

Aside from losing the awesome experience of doing road trips to several concerts as someone pointed out on another thread, this is an odd time with the economy being what it is to ask everyone to fork over money to fly. Philly reps the East, Chicago reps the Midwest and LA reps the West. With the "no plans for shows in 2010 statement", I'm really feeling left out. With the exception of ACL, where they'll probably play for an hour, I'm not able to see any of the concert shows because I haven't had a full-time job in 17 months.

What does everyone think?

Hell 70% of their fanclub is made of of elitist pricks so it only makes sense.

ok, i have to admit.......THAT made me laugh!

JOEJOEJOE

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

weenie wrote:

by performing shows ONLY in large metropolitan areas (with the exception of the festival shows) and forcing fans to fly to those cities from everywhere? Just curious as to what everyone has to say.

Aside from losing the awesome experience of doing road trips to several concerts as someone pointed out on another thread, this is an odd time with the economy being what it is to ask everyone to fork over money to fly. Philly reps the East, Chicago reps the Midwest and LA reps the West. With the "no plans for shows in 2010 statement", I'm really feeling left out. With the exception of ACL, where they'll probably play for an hour, I'm not able to see any of the concert shows because I haven't had a full-time job in 17 months.

What does everyone think?

Hell 70% of their fanclub is made of of elitist pricks so it only makes sense.

If 70% are elitist, then it is not a very elite elite!

dimitrispearljam

jimed14 wrote:

hopethatuchoke wrote:

I don't think the band is elitist at all. I do however think a number of people around here and at the shows are. Particularly those with low numbers always in the front rows. And just look at the multiple "Eddie Concert Etiquette" threads.

asking for people to be respectful at the Ed shows and pipe down so everyone can hear what he's saying/singing in an intimate setting isn't elitist, it's courteous.

100% right

dimitrispearljam

metsfan wrote:

I've been on here for 4 years now and I've never ever seen a pearl jam please come to asia thread or pearl jam please come to south america thread.

+1...exept me that i open a threat to come to Greece..but is more funny than bitching..
http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... 5&t=102072

dimitrispearljam

FoxyMHMama wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed, I am female and middle-aged, what's your excuse? Just messing, enjoy Philly.

..u are super...

HeavyHands

drsluggo wrote:

Keep drinking that kool-aid though...

KOOOOOL AIIIIIIID?!?

letsongsprotest

They have families now, they dont want to be on the road for months.

I dont get why people dont understand that. Do I want them to play Detroit every year, of course. (and I get it that Im pretty close to Chicago so save those responses) Deal with the fact that they arent 20/30 yr old single guys anymore and have other priorities that are more important than touring.

It sucks for everyone that cant see them because they arent playing close enough, but come on

Tuolumne Mama

Sorry I don't see the correlation between them having families and chosing to remain active professional musicians. Touring/travel is part of the package just like many other pros jobs. Its what butters their bread and they don't appear to be retiring with release of new music.

fall by the wayside

letsongsprotest wrote:

They have families now, they dont want to be on the road for months.

I dont get why people dont understand that. Do I want them to play Detroit every year, of course. (and I get it that Im pretty close to Chicago so save those responses) Deal with the fact that they arent 20/30 yr old single guys anymore and have other priorities that are more important than touring.

It sucks for everyone that cant see them because they arent playing close enough, but come on

Honestly, most guys their age would still be working 40+ hours a week, these guys have got it made it the shade. That being said, I completely understand the decision to spend more time with their families. However, there can certainly be a balance between touring like they did when they were younger and announcing a "North American Tour" that consists of dates in only FOUR cities.

This is a band that has spent the last 18 years cultivating a RABID fan base that likes to tour. We all know this. So why do so many people on this board continue to brow beat anyone who has the gall to voice their dissapointment. Its ok if this is how PJ wants to operate. But if this is the case, I think it should be ok for fans to be able to share how they feel about it without being marginalized.

mattosborne

*shakes head*

So dumb.

weenie

stickfig13 wrote:

weenie wrote:

by performing shows ONLY in large metropolitan areas (with the exception of the festival shows) and forcing fans to fly to those cities from everywhere? Just curious as to what everyone has to say.

Aside from losing the awesome experience of doing road trips to several concerts as someone pointed out on another thread, this is an odd time with the economy being what it is to ask everyone to fork over money to fly. Philly reps the East, Chicago reps the Midwest and LA reps the West. With the "no plans for shows in 2010 statement", I'm really feeling left out. With the exception of ACL, where they'll probably play for an hour, I'm not able to see any of the concert shows because I haven't had a full-time job in 17 months.

What does everyone think?

I hate to be rude but...

Maybe find a job between now and then so you can save up some money to go to the shows that are being played. I really don't see why it's PJ fault or how they are being "elitist" by not playing in your backyard. They are not forcing you to do anything. If you can't afford to go to the shows then you can't go.....simple as that.

:shock:
You're not being rude, you're being ignorant, like several other posters. It just so happens that I haven't had a full time job for 16 months - NOT BY CHOICE. I am not uneducated, unskilled or unintelligent. It simply doesn't make sense for me to work for $16 an hour when I could be spending that time looking for a REAL job. It's a full-time job to FIND a job these days.

For you, and so many other sanctimonious, smug assholes to respond to a question with crass and insensitive answers - including photos - is indicative of the egocentricity that permeates your thinking.

Thanks to the few of you who had the decency to grant my questions some credibility with a logical response.

As to affordability... I'd be overjoyed to drive to Dallas, New Orleans, Oklahoma City even Northern Florida (as an example) as we fans were privileged to do in years past.
And just to set the record straight for those of you who don't understand the word elitist - I was not referring to politics or a conspiracy theory - AGAIN - just the idea that in tough economic times, we fans can fly to regional shows.

Oh, and as to Austin, a 3 day pass to ACL is over $300. I'm hoping to buy a Sunday pass from someone for CHEAP to see them play for an HOUR to maybe an HOUR and A HALF.

weenie

decides2dream wrote:

i think the term 'elitist' is over-utilized on this board. that said, no, i don't think they are elitist, nor do i think it is an elitist move on their part. right now, it's a small tour, just a kick-off. i think smaller markets WILL see shows in the coming year in full support of their new album. that said, i think the band is simply being strategic, balancing their lives, trying to still reward their fans, but you bet...doing what they have always done - doing things on their terms. the band, like many, are at a point in their lives where they have young families. they also are at a point of (more than likely) damn fine financial success. of course one caqnnot know with certainty, but i still feel pretty secure in assuming that if they wanted to never put out another album or tour again, they all could still manage damn comfortable lives. they continue to make music and put on live shows b/c they WANT to. however, they also want to see their families. i think ANY one of us would do the same....try to find the BALANCE that works for us. beyond that.....they play these large metropolitan areas simply b/c they ARE large, meaning - LOTs of fans in a given area. if you're only going to do a couple of shows...doesn't it make sense to go to areas with significant populations of your fans? that's not elitist, that's just common sense. beyond that...i do believe they'll spread the love around, later.

What you say makes sense and I'm really hoping you're right.

weenie

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

I think the fucking fans are the ones becoming elitist!! I f they don't play a hop skip & a jump from peoples houses then they wanna talk shit and moan and cry!

First of all...you know dam well that these are not going to be the only US tour dates to support a new album...they will take some time off after this little stint and then they will be back on the road and touring the south as they all said they were going to and then the North East will get some shows...how do i know this..easy...past experience..i know this band!!

sometimes we are quick to scream foul play when we are upset and we let our emotions get in the way of our rational thinking...i have been guilty of this myself...live and learn!.

I'm from Boston one of their biggest markets...i have no doubt in my mind that they will be here sometime in the next year or so...but for now...thank God i am fortunate enough to go to Philly!!!

hang in there OP..they will be around your way sooner or later!!

Thanks U R A Crazy Breed-
CLASS answer.

tcaporale

To the people who are seriously considering the notion that Pearl Jam are "avoiding" red states...

Are you really that stupid?

JOEJOEJOE

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:shock:
You're not being rude, you're being ignorant, like several other posters. It just so happens that I haven't had a full time job for 16 months - NOT BY CHOICE. I am not uneducated, unskilled or unintelligent. It simply doesn't make sense for me to work for $16 an hour when I could be spending that time looking for a REAL job. It's a full-time job to FIND a job these days.

For you, and so many other sanctimonious, smug assholes to respond to a question with crass and insensitive answers - including photos - is indicative of the egocentricity that permeates your thinking.

Thanks to the few of you who had the decency to grant my questions some credibility with a logical response.

As to affordability... I'd be overjoyed to drive to Dallas, New Orleans, Oklahoma City even Northern Florida (as an example) as we fans were privileged to do in years past.
And just to set the record straight for those of you who don't understand the word elitist - I was not referring to politics or a conspiracy theory - AGAIN - just the idea that in tough economic times, we fans can fly to regional shows.

Oh, and as to Austin, a 3 day pass to ACL is over $300. I'm hoping to buy a Sunday pass from someone for CHEAP to see them play for an HOUR to maybe an HOUR and A HALF.[/quote]


The fact that you think that a $16/hour job, in this poor economy,"doesn't make sense", may be considered an "elitist" comment by many people here........seems a bit dodgy that you are looking for pity.

Kilgore_Trout

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

The fact that you think that a $16/hour job, in this poor economy,"doesn't make sense", may be considered an "elitist" comment by many people here........seems a bit dodgy that you are looking for pity.

amen brother... id kill for an $8/hour job right now - let alone $16... not stupid or lazy either... i applied to atleast 25 different places when i got home from school (shit like home depot, hobby lobby, subway, applebees, etc etc) and didnt hear back from ANYWHERE! there just arent any jobs to be had... im just glad i have one waiting for me when i get back to school

"elitist" has to be the most ambiguous namecalling ive ever heard... if its about making lots of money then PJ has always been elitist... if its about attitude - well i dont think any of us know them well enough to say for sure... but they atleast seem like the same guys theyve always been

weenie

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

The fact that you think that a $16/hour job, in this poor economy,"doesn't make sense", may be considered an "elitist" comment by many people here........seems a bit dodgy that you are looking for pity.[/quote]


Do you know anyone who pays a mortage and lives on $16 an hour? Secondly, I'm not looking for any "pity", I'm just stating the facts. You people don't read what is written, you read what you want to read so you can have a reaction to it and post. Oh, and I'm a lonnnnnngggggg time past my college days.

EMPTY CUP

You know what I thinks funny
I Know Aussies who are going " Great we have shows in philly and Seatle, Im gunna go to this show and that show. that means flying halfway around the world to see Pearl Jam.
Meanwhile we have some americans going oohhh boohoo they are not playing around the corner from my House, Im giving up on these losers if they dont play in my area.
It just shows how selfish you are and your lack of passion for the band
iM SURE nICKLEBACK WILL PLAY YOUR AREA gO SEE THEM.


WHEN AND IF THEY TOUR oz I WILL GO WHERE THEY PLAY.
sure last tour they played Newcastle Ent centre which is 5 min from my house. I was Honoured and stoked.
But Idont expect it again, Sure I hope. And I will put my name to a petition agagin if required.
But I wont crack the shits. I will just get a ticket to the nearest show and dance like nobodies watchin