KAT - will we have time to decide, or will it be immediate?

Ryan_WFC

CJMST3K wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

You're interested in the Philly shows, right?

Pretty clear they're either 10/27-29 or 10/28, 10/30, and 10/31.

Either way you'd have three months to make your travel plans, etc.

The difference between those two rumored sets of dates makes a big difference on my end of things. I have to manage a Halloween event to manage on 10/30 and 10/31. Would need to cut out of it early on 10/31, and I'd need to see if I can even do that. If the dates are 27-29, I have a little more flexibility, but not much. If I could resell my TC ticket, I wouldn't worry about it - but if I buy it too quickly and find I can't make it after, I've got to eat $170... so, just a little bit of time would be nice.

I totally understand that. But what difference does it make if PJ announces it a week early or puts it right on sale? Sounds like you can't do 10/30-31 either way.

pjsteelerfan

No matter what, nothing is going to work for everyone, hence my above post. Do they put tickets on sale now and everyone gets pissed about that, or announce a date, site may crash, and everyone gets pissed about that. But one thing seems fairly certain, that shows are going to be between 10/25/09 and 10/31/09. That should give everyone a pretty big window to plan around, seeing as it is July.

Ryan_WFC

Jeanwah wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

so i don't think it so *odd* to request just that.

It's not "odd," but do you think this idea never crossed 10-C's mind? They've been doing the instant sale because they think it's best, for whatever reason.

As someone who lurks on this board a lot, I love it.

This is a brand new strategy. No announcement for it, no letting us know what's going on (we are the customers, so basically it's poor business). They are obviously in experimental mode, and not doing this because "they think it's best".

If they do it this way again, that will be three consecutive tours/shows. Not an "experiment."

I completely understand what you're saying, and in a perfect world of 50,000 ten club tickets and mammoth bandwith, I'd be all for a heads up of a week or even a month.

But pjsteelersfan hit the nail on the head -- if they do that, the site will crash and the message board freaks (myself included) will have less chance of getting tickets.

Jeanwah

pjsteelerfan wrote:

No matter what, nothing is going to work for everyone, hence my above post. Do they out tickets on sale now and everyone gets pissed about that, or announce a date, site may crash, and everyone gets pissed about that. But one thing seems fairly certain, that shows are going to be between 10/25/09 and 10/31/09. That should give everyone a pretty big window to plan around, seeing as it is July.

Yet, because they will not be upfront on when this announcement and possible instant onsale will be, it puts a lot of us out now doesn't it. It's poor business.

pjsteelerfan

Jeanwah wrote:

pjsteelerfan wrote:

No matter what, nothing is going to work for everyone, hence my above post. Do they out tickets on sale now and everyone gets pissed about that, or announce a date, site may crash, and everyone gets pissed about that. But one thing seems fairly certain, that shows are going to be between 10/25/09 and 10/31/09. That should give everyone a pretty big window to plan around, seeing as it is July.

Yet, because they will not be upfront on when this announcement and possible instant onsale will be, it puts a lot of us out now doesn't it. It's poor business.

From Kats post, looks to be tomorrow

cowboypjfan

Jeanwah wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

so i don't think it so *odd* to request just that.

It's not "odd," but do you think this idea never crossed 10-C's mind? They've been doing the instant sale because they think it's best, for whatever reason.

As someone who lurks on this board a lot, I love it.

They are obviously in experimental mode, and not doing this because "they think it's best".

They have been in experimental mode for some time now. I wish I could keep my business in experimental mode, be inconsistent on important decisions, provide poor or no customer service and stay in business:)

CJMST3K

Ryan_WFC wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

You're interested in the Philly shows, right?

Pretty clear they're either 10/27-29 or 10/28, 10/30, and 10/31.

Either way you'd have three months to make your travel plans, etc.

The difference between those two rumored sets of dates makes a big difference on my end of things. I have to manage a Halloween event to manage on 10/30 and 10/31. Would need to cut out of it early on 10/31, and I'd need to see if I can even do that. If the dates are 27-29, I have a little more flexibility, but not much. If I could resell my TC ticket, I wouldn't worry about it - but if I buy it too quickly and find I can't make it after, I've got to eat $170... so, just a little bit of time would be nice.

I totally understand that. But what difference does it make if PJ announces it a week early or puts it right on sale? Sounds like you can't do 10/30-31 either way.

I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it for the 31st. The event ends at 3pm, and my store is open until 6pm. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, the drive-time on a Saturday at 3pm, when it's a 4.5 hour drive, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.

Get_Right

the sudden onsale thing stinks
it may be a decent way of alleviating stress on the servers, but its not really fair to those who are not on a computer all day

given2fly23

Jeanwah wrote:

Yet, because they will not be upfront on when this announcement and possible instant onsale will be, it puts a lot of us out now doesn't it. It's poor business.

and it makes things more difficult than they really need to be.

Better Dan

pjsteelerfan wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

pjsteelerfan wrote:

No matter what, nothing is going to work for everyone, hence my above post. Do they out tickets on sale now and everyone gets pissed about that, or announce a date, site may crash, and everyone gets pissed about that. But one thing seems fairly certain, that shows are going to be between 10/25/09 and 10/31/09. That should give everyone a pretty big window to plan around, seeing as it is July.

Yet, because they will not be upfront on when this announcement and possible instant onsale will be, it puts a lot of us out now doesn't it. It's poor business.

From Kats post, looks to be tomorrow

Announcement? Or announcement AND ticket sales?

Can we please get some confirmation on this from 10C as it makes all the difference to so many of us with families and jobs! We could really use a head's up to try to see if travel plans are feasible for certain cities/dates!


Thanks!

Ryan_WFC

CJMST3K wrote:

I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.

But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?

How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?

I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?

Jeanwah

pjsteelerfan wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

pjsteelerfan wrote:

No matter what, nothing is going to work for everyone, hence my above post. Do they out tickets on sale now and everyone gets pissed about that, or announce a date, site may crash, and everyone gets pissed about that. But one thing seems fairly certain, that shows are going to be between 10/25/09 and 10/31/09. That should give everyone a pretty big window to plan around, seeing as it is July.

Yet, because they will not be upfront on when this announcement and possible instant onsale will be, it puts a lot of us out now doesn't it. It's poor business.

From Kats post, looks to be tomorrow

What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.

Better Dan

Ryan_WFC wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.

But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?

How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?

I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?

In my situation, it would help because I can check airfare for various cities and see which shows would be easier for me to go to. I can request time off from work and know before I purchase tickets whether I can take the day off or not. I can make sure I don't already have stuff planned on the dates of the shows. I can..you know...PLAN!

Ryan_WFC

Jeanwah wrote:

What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.

Yeah, they're probably gonna have to eat those tickets....

And interest in the fan club will plummet any day now...

Jeanwah

Ryan_WFC wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.

But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?

How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?

I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?

Why should they cater to the Joe who sits online all day at work or at home? Why should Joe outdoors worker be cut off? Tell me how this makes sense.

cowboypjfan

Ryan_WFC wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.

But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?

How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?

I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?

Yeah, reward the freaks that have their pictures as avatars. Great Idea!

Better Dan

Jeanwah wrote:

Ryan_WFC wrote:

CJMST3K wrote:

I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.

But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?

How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?

I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?

Why should they cater to the Joe who sits online all day at work or at home? Why should Joe outdoors worker be cut off? Tell me how this makes sense.

Plus many of us have families, meetings, doctor's appointments, etc... and can't be glued to this board 24/7.

LukinFan

Ryan_WFC wrote:

If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?

exactly

pjsteelerfan

Jeanwah wrote:

What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.

I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.

Better Dan

pjsteelerfan wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.

I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.

Yeah, that's fine for people who are going to Philly. But for those of us that already know we can't go to Philly and would like to catch some other shows still need some time to look into things before purchasing fan club tickets. I mean we're just asking for one day!


Daniel