I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
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No matter what, nothing is going to work for everyone, hence my above post. Do they out tickets on sale now and everyone gets pissed about that, or announce a date, site may crash, and everyone gets pissed about that. But one thing seems fairly certain, that shows are going to be between 10/25/09 and 10/31/09. That should give everyone a pretty big window to plan around, seeing as it is July.
Yet, because they will not be upfront on when this announcement and possible instant onsale will be, it puts a lot of us out now doesn't it. It's poor business.
From Kats post, looks to be tomorrow
What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.
I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
In my situation, it would help because I can check airfare for various cities and see which shows would be easier for me to go to. I can request time off from work and know before I purchase tickets whether I can take the day off or not. I can make sure I don't already have stuff planned on the dates of the shows. I can..you know...PLAN!
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I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
Why should they cater to the Joe who sits online all day at work or at home? Why should Joe outdoors worker be cut off? Tell me how this makes sense.
I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
Yeah, reward the freaks that have their pictures as avatars. Great Idea!
I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
Why should they cater to the Joe who sits online all day at work or at home? Why should Joe outdoors worker be cut off? Tell me how this makes sense.
Plus many of us have families, meetings, doctor's appointments, etc... and can't be glued to this board 24/7.
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If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
exactly
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What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.
I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.
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What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.
I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.
Yeah, that's fine for people who are going to Philly. But for those of us that already know we can't go to Philly and would like to catch some other shows still need some time to look into things before purchasing fan club tickets. I mean we're just asking for one day!
Daniel
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so i don't think it so *odd* to request just that.
It's not "odd," but do you think this idea never crossed 10-C's mind? They've been doing the instant sale because they think it's best, for whatever reason.
As someone who lurks on this board a lot, I love it.
This is a brand new strategy. No announcement for it, no letting us know what's going on (we are the customers, so basically it's poor business). They are obviously in experimental mode, and not doing this because "they think it's best".
agreed.
i lurk on this board all work-day....well when i can, anyway.
during these times i do try to check in some at night too, but i do actually have other things to do besides sit here 24/7. i also understand the rationale behind the 'instant sale'...but i do believe it's ok for me to express my personal opinion that it sucks. i've been quite lucky with 10c sales so it's not necessarily that i am so concerned that i'll miss out...but yea, i do believe a wee bit of TIME is simply considerate. that is all. ryan, you love it...cool for you. not all of us do. i think we're all entitled to express our feelings here. that is all.
oftentimes in the past, the 'exact' dates didn't matter too much to me due to the work i used to do, more flexible time and sure more flexible funds for travel/shows. that is not my situation right now, so i personally would like to know ALL cities and dates so i can make the most informed decision for my personal situation. i do not think i am asking 10c to cater to my needs at all, b/c it IS quite unorthadox to have "instant ticket sales" right along with an announcement. they're gonna do what they're gonna do.....i am merely expressing my pov.
and hey, even if they give us advance notice and announce ticket sale friday at 1 PM EST...well i'd be SOL since i'd be in a meeting. so announcing doesnt necessarily make it *better* for me, but it at least let's me/us....try to make alternate plans, have some time to make ssome choices...
Yeah, that's fine for people who are going to Philly. But for those of us that already know we can't go to Philly and would like to catch some other shows still need some time to look into things before purchasing fan club tickets. I mean we're just asking for one day!
Daniel
I understand, I was just talking about the Philly shows, I'm not heading out west. Probably not the south either. And if they are like the Chicago or Europe shows, they may be up for a while. I think part of the problem, is the Philly shows will be the most in demand tickets of the tour. Seeing as it is an easy place to get to for the northeast US.
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What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.
I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.
So you are saying we should set aside the last week of October for 3 rumored days that aren't/weren't official yet. Yeah, that makes sense :roll: I just think that there are more important things to do than sit around all day at a computer and 'lurk'.
buy all....and after make the program..i did that for Εurope..or take a divorce if u have a prοblem,
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What time, and what is it? An announcement or announcement plus onsale? Poor business.
I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.
So you are saying we should set aside the last week of October for 3 rumored days that aren't/weren't official yet. Yeah, that makes sense :roll: I just think that there are more important things to do than sit around all day at a computer and 'lurk'.
Wow, I guess you missed my point. Seeing as it is OVER 3 MONTHS AWAY, it gave me plenty of time to plan for that week. And more time if you consider the rumors started months ago. I know a lot of people need to plan things out over a year in advance. I am not lurking, it was just easy not to scheudle things that week until I know more. I did not have to lurk at a computer to do that.
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...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
Wow, I guess you missed my point. Seeing as it is OVER 3 MONTHS AWAY :!: , it gave me plenty of time to plan for that week. And more time if you consider the rumors started months ago. Inkow a lot of people need to plan things out over a year in advance.
if the tickets were refundable, i don't think it would be such an issue... but they aren't and if something doesn't fall into place you lose your money and your seats go empty.
I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
I'd consider myself a board geek and I was on vacation in Miami watching a dolphin show when I saw EV tickets go for sale on my tiny phone, with no notice, and I'm on the board all day every day.
The past few weeks I hadn't heard anything about dates from Ten Club... and still no dates from TC. I'm now assuming the brief article that was in the locked thread was accurate. Now, from that unofficial source I'm trying to see who's available for those dates, and figure out if I can make it...
it would just be nice to base tough-to-make plans on facts, not random websites posting unconfirmed dates which could very easily be 100% inaccurate. Let's say they play Philly on November 8th and 9th, I'd have no problem with that date. If it's earlier in October I'd need to see if I really wanted to go to Jen's wedding... Everyone has different levels of plans that they need to figure out, and it's hard to figure them out without knowing the dates.
How about this... Announce the dates, and simply say "Going on sale at a random date and time next week". This would give them the same surprise element, and would still allow for us to plan.
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Yeah, that's fine for people who are going to Philly. But for those of us that already know we can't go to Philly and would like to catch some other shows still need some time to look into things before purchasing fan club tickets. I mean we're just asking for one day!
Daniel
I understand, I was just talking about the Philly shows, I'm not heading out west. Probably not the south either. And if they are like the Chicago or Europe shows, they may be up for a while. I think part of the problem, is the Philly shows will be the most in demand tickets of the tour. Seeing as it is an easy place to get to for the northeast US.
and even for some of us considering philly....we may also be thinking of other shows instead of philly, etc.....so yea.....it's nice to know ALL options with a wee bit of notice to make an informed choice. philly absolutely will be gone in an instant, so all the more reason i'd like to know what else may be available, i might prefer something else, the dates might work better for me, etc. and even if just focused on philly, it still is better for me to know exactly what dates up front. given this is a no refund/no exchange purchase....i think a little notice is a wise idea, for everyone. it would be especially sad to see 10c tix go to waste at such high demand shows.
and dimitri.....easy for you to 'joke'....probably b/c you're unmarried?
seriously, many of us have spouses, children, other responsibilities....and yes....can't always buy first, make plans later....b/c oftentimes, that's $$$ wasted.
i personally hope these instant sales are not the way of the future.
I'd have to talk with people and see if they're ok with it. I'd also need to think how much money I'd lose having my store closed for a couple of weekdays versus half a Saturday, etc... plus trying to get a friend to go with me is hard if I don't know what date we're talking about. Lots of stuff... There's wiggle room, but only if I have time to wiggle.
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
I'd consider myself a board geek and I was on vacation in Miami watching a dolphin show when I saw EV tickets go for sale on my tiny phone, with no notice, and I'm on the board all day every day.
The past few weeks I hadn't heard anything about dates from Ten Club... and still no dates from TC. I'm now assuming the brief article that was in the locked thread was accurate. Now, from that unofficial source I'm trying to see who's available for those dates, and figure out if I can make it...
it would just be nice to base tough-to-make plans on facts, not random websites posting unconfirmed dates which could very easily be 100% inaccurate. Let's say they play Philly on November 8th and 9th, I'd have no problem with that date. If it's earlier in October I'd need to see if I really wanted to go to Jen's wedding... Everyone has different levels of plans that they need to figure out, and it's hard to figure them out without knowing the dates.
How about this... Announce the dates, and simply say "Going on sale at a random date and time next week". This would give them the same surprise element, and would still allow for us to plan.
i cannot see for one reason the need for a surprise element
Wow, I guess you missed my point. Seeing as it is OVER 3 MONTHS AWAY :!: , it gave me plenty of time to plan for that week. And more time if you consider the rumors started months ago. Inkow a lot of people need to plan things out over a year in advance.
if the tickets were refundable, i don't think it would be such an issue... but they aren't and if something doesn't fall into place you lose your money and your seats go empty.
no,not refundble..
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i cannot see for one reason the need for a surprise element
The only thing I can think of is to eliminate the sudden load on their bandwidth, which usually crashes their website during sales. Right now we have a surprise element... so, we're already in it.
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
and dimitri.....easy for you to 'joke'....probably b/c you're unmarried?
seriously, many of us have spouses, children, other responsibilities....and yes....can't always buy first, make plans later....b/c oftentimes, that's $$$ wasted.
i personally hope these instant sales are not the way of the future.[/quote]
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come on was a joke.. ofcourse there are more thing first than a concert of pearl jam,,u can meet eddie in stead,, ..
i understand u ..money is an issue,and stuff..just make a joke like usa people do to us in europe when we was 50 hours in the pc.. just refreshing the page,hope u get the dates u want,,
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i cannot see for one reason the need for a surprise element
The only thing I can think of is to eliminate the sudden load on their bandwidth, which usually crashes their website during sales. Right now we have a surprise element... so, we're already in it.
I'd rather go back to the index card method of 03 if theier web site cant handle it LOL. Or why dont' they invest in a server that can handle the traffic. I mean sometimes the board crashes even during a poster sale for crying out loud!
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I really hate the absurdly short time between tour announcement and ticket sale.
What about people who don't use the internet everyday? In past that has screwed me over, specifically the 08 summer tour, I didn't club tickets because I had no idea they were going on sale. My seats ended up being not so bad through ticketmaster, but it was a close shave.
Recently I use the internet a lot more, but I know there must be people who don't, because I was one of them.
Furthermore, a little planning time would be nice, because even if you don't have family obligations or unflexable work schedules, you still need to decide if you can actually afford to buy a pair of tickets, and with no planning time, you can't always depend on being able to get a friend to take the other ticket off your hands.
And damn, this isn't a tenclub specific problem, but I have long felt it was totally bizarre to buy a ticket for an event happening three months or more in the future. I for one don't usually plan that far in advance for anything, except a concert obviously, because you have to, and sometimes that planning doesn't work out.
I noticed the other day that the early-bird tickets for this year's ACL sold out within a month of LAST YEAR'S festival. What the hell? Doesn't bother me personally, I just find it strange.
the sudden onsale thing stinks
it may be a decent way of alleviating stress on the servers, but its not really fair to those who are not on a computer all day
at the end of the day, THIS is really the issue imo. i do NOT think those of us who sit in front of a computer most of the day should have an advantage ovrer someone in another line of work who doesn't. me being a cube-dweller with easy access doesn't make me anymore a *fan* than someone in a factory, working outdoors or working in a classroom. back when i was teaching, i had to call out sick for ticket sales b/c yea...i had to teach, and thus, couldn't sit in front of a computer all day. (besides which, our computers were dinosaurs) i don't think message pit members should be 'rewarded' anymore than any other 10clubber. ALL 10clubbers should have equal opportunity to at least try for tix, and these instant sales really, truly, put unfair advantage to office workers, and a large disadvantage to those in other crafts. not a cool way to reawrd your fans imo. and i AM an office-worker, so this isn't sour grapes...just my pov.
dimitiri.,...i knew it was a joke. i was simply making a point. believe me, i have sat thru enough 10c tix sales, for here at home and abroad....but these instant sales just suck.
i cannot see for one reason the need for a surprise element
The only thing I can think of is to eliminate the sudden load on their bandwidth, which usually crashes their website during sales. Right now we have a surprise element... so, we're already in it.
I'd rather go back to the index card method of 03 if theier web site cant handle it LOL. Or why dont' they invest in a server that can handle the traffic. I mean sometimes the board crashes even during a poster sale for crying out loud!
There have been two methods I liked that I thought were totally fair. The old one-show request by mail (2000 was my first show, and that's how they did it for that tour)
The second was the lottery method used on the recent Eddie solo tour.
i cannot see for one reason the need for a surprise element
The only thing I can think of is to eliminate the sudden load on their bandwidth, which usually crashes their website during sales. Right now we have a surprise element... so, we're already in it.
I'd rather go back to the index card method of 03 if theier web site cant handle it LOL. Or why dont' they invest in a server that can handle the traffic. I mean sometimes the board crashes even during a poster sale for crying out loud!
I'd rather go back to the postcard method of 1998! That was great and fair! It also eliminated seniority. ...now, I love seniority, but the postcard method of 98 was my favorite.
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Decide what dates to go to, figure out work stuff, etc. If they put it on sale immediately, there's not much planning that can be done. Any show I attend is going to cost me much more than the cost of the ticket and travel... It would be cool to know we'll have time to make a decision about which date/dates to attend.
I agree with you 100%
Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 - 9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA
I'd rather go back to the postcard method of 1998! That was great and fair! It also eliminated seniority. ...now, I love seniority, but the postcard method of 98 was my favorite.[/quote]
that was pretty fuckin' cool wasn't it? remember the 03' tour when we had to send in all those damn money orders?! ha! we've been through so many incarnations of this thing that this is what we're left with.
I'd rather go back to the postcard method of 1998! That was great and fair! It also eliminated seniority. ...now, I love seniority, but the postcard method of 98 was my favorite.
that was pretty fuckin' cool wasn't it? remember the 03' tour when we had to send in all those damn money orders?! ha! we've been through so many incarnations of this thing that this is what we're left with.
Sometimes the older methods work best. You don't even need a computer to do it, and there's no chance the "mail" will crash.
...all the rusted signs, eh?
ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Comments
But why can't you do all that tonight? And for the past few weeks?
How would 10-C telling you today that the sale is Friday, or whatever, help you with that particular situation?
I get that their approach is unorthodox, but the bottom line is they have a limited supply of tickets. If you're going to reward someone, why not the fan club message board freak?
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
In my situation, it would help because I can check airfare for various cities and see which shows would be easier for me to go to. I can request time off from work and know before I purchase tickets whether I can take the day off or not. I can make sure I don't already have stuff planned on the dates of the shows. I can..you know...PLAN!
Yeah, they're probably gonna have to eat those tickets....
And interest in the fan club will plummet any day now...
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
Yeah, reward the freaks that have their pictures as avatars. Great Idea!
Plus many of us have families, meetings, doctor's appointments, etc... and can't be glued to this board 24/7.
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
2024: Baltimore
Upcoming: 2025 Hollywood, FL Night 2
I see your point, Really, whatever they do is fine with me. I am ready if they do sale and announcement, or just announcment. My point is that it is pretty well known that the last week of October is the PJ shows in Phily. So I have already planned for that last week for Philly, since it is a few months away. And I know some jobs won't let people take off now, or had to put in vacation ahead of time. or some people have family obligations, but 3 months out to plan for shows is still a decent chunk of time.
Yeah, that's fine for people who are going to Philly. But for those of us that already know we can't go to Philly and would like to catch some other shows still need some time to look into things before purchasing fan club tickets. I mean we're just asking for one day!
Daniel
agreed.
i lurk on this board all work-day....well when i can, anyway.
during these times i do try to check in some at night too, but i do actually have other things to do besides sit here 24/7. i also understand the rationale behind the 'instant sale'...but i do believe it's ok for me to express my personal opinion that it sucks. i've been quite lucky with 10c sales so it's not necessarily that i am so concerned that i'll miss out...but yea, i do believe a wee bit of TIME is simply considerate. that is all. ryan, you love it...cool for you. not all of us do. i think we're all entitled to express our feelings here. that is all.
oftentimes in the past, the 'exact' dates didn't matter too much to me due to the work i used to do, more flexible time and sure more flexible funds for travel/shows. that is not my situation right now, so i personally would like to know ALL cities and dates so i can make the most informed decision for my personal situation. i do not think i am asking 10c to cater to my needs at all, b/c it IS quite unorthadox to have "instant ticket sales" right along with an announcement. they're gonna do what they're gonna do.....i am merely expressing my pov.
and hey, even if they give us advance notice and announce ticket sale friday at 1 PM EST...well i'd be SOL since i'd be in a meeting. so announcing doesnt necessarily make it *better* for me, but it at least let's me/us....try to make alternate plans, have some time to make ssome choices...
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I understand, I was just talking about the Philly shows, I'm not heading out west. Probably not the south either. And if they are like the Chicago or Europe shows, they may be up for a while. I think part of the problem, is the Philly shows will be the most in demand tickets of the tour. Seeing as it is an easy place to get to for the northeast US.
So you are saying we should set aside the last week of October for 3 rumored days that aren't/weren't official yet. Yeah, that makes sense :roll: I just think that there are more important things to do than sit around all day at a computer and 'lurk'.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Wow, I guess you missed my point. Seeing as it is OVER 3 MONTHS AWAY, it gave me plenty of time to plan for that week. And more time if you consider the rumors started months ago. I know a lot of people need to plan things out over a year in advance.
if the tickets were refundable, i don't think it would be such an issue... but they aren't and if something doesn't fall into place you lose your money and your seats go empty.
I'd consider myself a board geek and I was on vacation in Miami watching a dolphin show when I saw EV tickets go for sale on my tiny phone, with no notice, and I'm on the board all day every day.
The past few weeks I hadn't heard anything about dates from Ten Club... and still no dates from TC. I'm now assuming the brief article that was in the locked thread was accurate. Now, from that unofficial source I'm trying to see who's available for those dates, and figure out if I can make it...
it would just be nice to base tough-to-make plans on facts, not random websites posting unconfirmed dates which could very easily be 100% inaccurate. Let's say they play Philly on November 8th and 9th, I'd have no problem with that date. If it's earlier in October I'd need to see if I really wanted to go to Jen's wedding... Everyone has different levels of plans that they need to figure out, and it's hard to figure them out without knowing the dates.
How about this... Announce the dates, and simply say "Going on sale at a random date and time next week". This would give them the same surprise element, and would still allow for us to plan.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
and even for some of us considering philly....we may also be thinking of other shows instead of philly, etc.....so yea.....it's nice to know ALL options with a wee bit of notice to make an informed choice. philly absolutely will be gone in an instant, so all the more reason i'd like to know what else may be available, i might prefer something else, the dates might work better for me, etc. and even if just focused on philly, it still is better for me to know exactly what dates up front. given this is a no refund/no exchange purchase....i think a little notice is a wise idea, for everyone. it would be especially sad to see 10c tix go to waste at such high demand shows.
and dimitri.....easy for you to 'joke'....probably b/c you're unmarried?
seriously, many of us have spouses, children, other responsibilities....and yes....can't always buy first, make plans later....b/c oftentimes, that's $$$ wasted.
i personally hope these instant sales are not the way of the future.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
i cannot see for one reason the need for a surprise element
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The only thing I can think of is to eliminate the sudden load on their bandwidth, which usually crashes their website during sales. Right now we have a surprise element... so, we're already in it.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
seriously, many of us have spouses, children, other responsibilities....and yes....can't always buy first, make plans later....b/c oftentimes, that's $$$ wasted.
i personally hope these instant sales are not the way of the future.[/quote]
my moto in life is...:
married hung out with married people
and ALIVE ONES WITH THE ALIVES!!!!!!
come on was a joke..
i understand u ..money is an issue,and stuff..just make a joke like usa people do to us in europe when we was 50 hours in the pc.. just refreshing the page,hope u get the dates u want,,
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I'd rather go back to the index card method of 03 if theier web site cant handle it LOL. Or why dont' they invest in a server that can handle the traffic. I mean sometimes the board crashes even during a poster sale for crying out loud!
What about people who don't use the internet everyday? In past that has screwed me over, specifically the 08 summer tour, I didn't club tickets because I had no idea they were going on sale. My seats ended up being not so bad through ticketmaster, but it was a close shave.
Recently I use the internet a lot more, but I know there must be people who don't, because I was one of them.
Furthermore, a little planning time would be nice, because even if you don't have family obligations or unflexable work schedules, you still need to decide if you can actually afford to buy a pair of tickets, and with no planning time, you can't always depend on being able to get a friend to take the other ticket off your hands.
And damn, this isn't a tenclub specific problem, but I have long felt it was totally bizarre to buy a ticket for an event happening three months or more in the future. I for one don't usually plan that far in advance for anything, except a concert obviously, because you have to, and sometimes that planning doesn't work out.
I noticed the other day that the early-bird tickets for this year's ACL sold out within a month of LAST YEAR'S festival. What the hell? Doesn't bother me personally, I just find it strange.
at the end of the day, THIS is really the issue imo. i do NOT think those of us who sit in front of a computer most of the day should have an advantage ovrer someone in another line of work who doesn't. me being a cube-dweller with easy access doesn't make me anymore a *fan* than someone in a factory, working outdoors or working in a classroom. back when i was teaching, i had to call out sick for ticket sales b/c yea...i had to teach, and thus, couldn't sit in front of a computer all day. (besides which, our computers were dinosaurs) i don't think message pit members should be 'rewarded' anymore than any other 10clubber. ALL 10clubbers should have equal opportunity to at least try for tix, and these instant sales really, truly, put unfair advantage to office workers, and a large disadvantage to those in other crafts. not a cool way to reawrd your fans imo. and i AM an office-worker, so this isn't sour grapes...just my pov.
dimitiri.,...i knew it was a joke.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
There have been two methods I liked that I thought were totally fair. The old one-show request by mail (2000 was my first show, and that's how they did it for that tour)
The second was the lottery method used on the recent Eddie solo tour.
I'd rather go back to the postcard method of 1998! That was great and fair! It also eliminated seniority. ...now, I love seniority, but the postcard method of 98 was my favorite.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA
that was pretty fuckin' cool wasn't it? remember the 03' tour when we had to send in all those damn money orders?! ha! we've been through so many incarnations of this thing that this is what we're left with.
Sometimes the older methods work best. You don't even need a computer to do it, and there's no chance the "mail" will crash.
...all the rusted signs, eh?
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10