Avocado is 37 minutes long and 11 songs if you cut Come Back and Inside Job.
Yield is 38 minutes and 11 songs if you cut Push Me Pull Me and All Those Yesterdays.
My guess is this album would be 25 minutes if you cut out the two longest songs as well, so that game really doesn't cover the fact that if this is actually true its a very, very short album.
I will admit that I was also hoping for a bit longer of an album, but as another poster already noted - quality over quantity is key. Also keep in mind that there's always the possibility of a bside or two to drop after the album's release (I seem to recall them having way more than 12 songs done). However, we didn't get any bsides from Avocado...
They may also add another song to the tracklisting once everything is said and done - probably still too early to tell yet.
Regardless, this is fantastic news and I'm excited as hell!
I don't know. The mods always delete fake postings that people try to pass off as truth. The fact that this one seems to be staying leads me to think this is legit. Can someone please post the entire article. Even if it is in german. Also is there a pic? Who's on the magazine cover?
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I don't know. The mods always delete fake postings that people try to pass off as truth. The fact that this one seems to be staying leads me to think this is legit. Can someone please post the entire article. Even if it is in german. Also is there a pic? Who's on the magazine cover?
well, it is a saturday morning. don't know many mods are patrolling right now.
I would like to see a copy of the full article myself
Weird that PJ would break album news in a German magazine though....
Avocado is 37 minutes long and 11 songs if you cut Come Back and Inside Job.
Yield is 38 minutes and 11 songs if you cut Push Me Pull Me and All Those Yesterdays.
But if you cut those two songs you don't have Yield. Plus you have to include the length of Hummus for Yield (not the length of the space between ATY and hummus, but you have to include hummus!)
I don't know. The mods always delete fake postings that people try to pass off as truth. The fact that this one seems to be staying leads me to think this is legit. Can someone please post the entire article. Even if it is in german. Also is there a pic? Who's on the magazine cover?[/qu
Weird that PJ would break album news in a German magazine though....
Not really. That NME reporter got to hear the record a few weeks ago for a future article. He also interviewed the band about the record. I doubt the band set up that session just for him. I'm sure it was a full media day for the album. Probably did interviews all day for a tone of different magazines. So this is just the first one to get the article published.
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I think absolutely nothing can be determined at this point. We will see how the album SOUNDS... A lot of tracks on Into the Wild are very short and they are all dynamite. we are also likely 3 months out. This may not be a final list.
By contemporary rock standards, yes. By pearl jam standards, no.
S/T suffers from over compression on the production side, and generic sound on the writing/performance sound.
Though I think a lot of the latter could be fixed by the former.
What exactly are Pearl Jam standards? They have standards now that are expected to be met?
too many snobs here.. sorry.
I'm not trying to be a snob, but why can't I not like something the band did? I'm a huge pearl jam fan, my all time favorite band, but I'm still allowed to listen to them critically. What I meant by Pearl Jam standards was the album is only lacking when you hold it next to the other ones in the catelog. And I feel like most of what's wrong with s/t is on the production end. Take your copy of S/T and extract the WAV files and open them up in Audacity or Adobe Audition and look at the wave. It looks like a solid block, the wave constantly hits the 100% threshold and thus "flatlines" at it's decibal peaks. Waves naturally never flatline, and when they do as a result of compression you have a "louder" album but an album that sounds less realistic and the intruments have less clarity. All the sounds end up being jumbled together and you feel like you're listening to a barage of noise in your face instead of hearing the intricacies of individual instruments.
To each it's own though, I'm not saying people can't like S/T. I like S/T, I just think it's the worst of all the albums PJ has put out.
And if that makes me a snob, well, I'd rather be a snob than someone who automatically likes anything the band puts out regardless of how it actually sounds.
By contemporary rock standards, yes. By pearl jam standards, no.
S/T suffers from over compression on the production side, and generic sound on the writing/performance sound.
Though I think a lot of the latter could be fixed by the former.
What exactly are Pearl Jam standards? They have standards now that are expected to be met?
too many snobs here.. sorry.
I'm not trying to be a snob, but why can't I not like something the band did? I'm a huge pearl jam fan, my all time favorite band, but I'm still allowed to listen to them critically. What I meant by Pearl Jam standards was the album is only lacking when you hold it next to the other ones in the catelog. And I feel like most of what's wrong with s/t is on the production end. Take your copy of S/T and extract the WAV files and open them up in Audacity or Adobe Audition and look at the wave. It looks like a solid block, the wave constantly hits the 100% threshold and thus "flatlines" at it's decibal peaks. Waves naturally never flatline, and when they do as a result of compression you have a "louder" album but an album that sounds less realistic and the intruments have less clarity. All the sounds end up being jumbled together and you feel like you're listening to a barage of noise in your face instead of hearing the intricacies of individual instruments.
To each it's own though, I'm not saying people can't like S/T. I like S/T, I just think it's the worst of all the albums PJ has put out.
And if that makes me a snob, well, I'd rather be a snob than someone who automatically likes anything the band puts out regardless of how it actually sounds.
The production on Avocado did kind of suck, and they didn't really stretch into new territory as far as writing style, but its a very strong album. There's only so far they can push the music without alienating 90% of us.. they only albums they really pushed it with were No Code and Binaural. If thats what you want, I can understand that. I do want something new sounding, although most here will reject it at first.
Avocado is 37 minutes long and 11 songs if you cut Come Back and Inside Job.
Yield is 38 minutes and 11 songs if you cut Push Me Pull Me and All Those Yesterdays.
My guess is this album would be 25 minutes if you cut out the two longest songs as well, so that game really doesn't cover the fact that if this is actually true its a very, very short album.
I wasn't trying to suggest it's not that short, but rather to give a tangible idea of how long the 36 minutes is, and to also show it's not necessarily a sign that we're going to have especially short songs.
I don't know. The mods always delete fake postings that people try to pass off as truth. The fact that this one seems to be staying leads me to think this is legit. Can someone please post the entire article. Even if it is in german. Also is there a pic? Who's on the magazine cover?
i post a pic of it tomorrow! it´s midnight this time in germany....
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on the cover of the magazin... just billy talent
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The production on Avocado did kind of suck, and they didn't really stretch into new territory as far as writing style, but its a very strong album. There's only so far they can push the music without alienating 90% of us.. they only albums they really pushed it with were No Code and Binaural. If thats what you want, I can understand that. I do want something new sounding, although most here will reject it at first
I agree 100% with the first line here. The production sucked, no new ground, yet a solid album. Which is why I said by contemporary rock standards, it was a great album. But I've always considered pearl jam to be better than contemporary rock. And I would much rather have pearl jam challenge themselves musically and break new ground than worry about fan alienation. I'd like to see the band make great music for the sake of great music, and let the fans react how they will.
With that said I am VERY excited for this new album. My favorite album of all time is Yield (which I think can be held in that category with no code and binaural as you said in your post) which is why I'm thrilled that brendan o'brien is back. And after hearing The End and Got Some, i feel like the band is back to making more interesting and less generic music. Now Got Some isn't really anything THAT groundbreaking and might have fit on S/T, but like I said, I feel like if it's produced properly, even the more generic sounding straight rockers can sound amazing, especially in the context of a varied and interesting album.
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See I love Riot Act. About a year after it came out I wrote it off as the worst PJ album, but it has since grown on me. And I think the reason why it stood a chance is that it is BEAUTIFULL produced. It has this ambient atmosphere to it that is just hanting. And despite having some weaker tracks (green disease anyone?) it still gave us such numbers as Help, Help which is one of the grooviest pearl jam songs there is.
I worried a little when I heard 36 minutes too, BUT its only 11 songs.. Maybe Brendan had them cut the not so great stuff out and only put the best on it. My thought is there won't be a dull moment on this album. Most of my favorite Pearl Jam songs are 3 minutes or less.. average song on this album would be 3:16.. probably a few 2 minuters and a few 4 minuters.
Ten is only 11 songs and its a bout 55 minutes.
I personally dont buy it/ dont want to buy it. When I hear 11 songs and only 36 minutes all I can think of is that they are trying to squeeze every last bit of creative juice that they have left after all of these years. 36 minutes is like they tried to squeeze the juice out of a damp cloth.
That other guy who heard the album did say it had 12 songs and Got Some was the opener. So I'm going to believe that instead.
I worried a little when I heard 36 minutes too, BUT its only 11 songs.. Maybe Brendan had them cut the not so great stuff out and only put the best on it. My thought is there won't be a dull moment on this album. Most of my favorite Pearl Jam songs are 3 minutes or less.. average song on this album would be 3:16.. probably a few 2 minuters and a few 4 minuters.
Ten is only 11 songs and its a bout 55 minutes.
I personally dont buy it/ dont want to buy it. 11 songs and 36 minutes is too little. That other guy who heard the album said it had 12 songs and Got Some was the opener.
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I worried a little when I heard 36 minutes too, BUT its only 11 songs.. Maybe Brendan had them cut the not so great stuff out and only put the best on it. My thought is there won't be a dull moment on this album. Most of my favorite Pearl Jam songs are 3 minutes or less.. average song on this album would be 3:16.. probably a few 2 minuters and a few 4 minuters.
Ten is only 11 songs and its a bout 55 minutes.
I personally dont buy it/ dont want to buy it. When I hear 11 songs and only 36 minutes all I can think of is that they are trying to squeeze every last bit of creative juice that they have left after all of these years. 36 minutes is like they tried to squeeze the juice out of a damp cloth.
That other guy who heard the album did say it had 12 songs and Got Some was the opener. So I'm going to believe that instead.
But Ten is all 5 minute long rock anthems, not to mention the extra minutes for master/slave to start. Very different from every other pearl jam album. Take a random 11 songs from every other album they ever did and you have a 30-some minute album.
I don't know. The mods always delete fake postings that people try to pass off as truth. The fact that this one seems to be staying leads me to think this is legit. Can someone please post the entire article. Even if it is in german. Also is there a pic? Who's on the magazine cover?
i post a pic of it tomorrow! it´s midnight this time in germany....
ps
on the cover of the magazin... just billy talent
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I can't wait.....oh yea..... I am sure all these songs will sound great at the SPECTRUM
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Not to mention those two seem a bit redundant, no?
long and drawn out can be boring in the long haul
Exciting
They may also add another song to the tracklisting once everything is said and done - probably still too early to tell yet.
Regardless, this is fantastic news and I'm excited as hell!
I agree
3 years of waiting = 36 minutes of music?
Also nobody else seems to notice the review doesn't match up to the existing review out there?.....# of songs, order, etc....
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well, it is a saturday morning. don't know many mods are patrolling right now.
I would like to see a copy of the full article myself
Weird that PJ would break album news in a German magazine though....
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that's a great album
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S/T suffers from over compression on the production side, and generic sound on the writing/performance sound.
Though I think a lot of the latter could be fixed by the former.
too many snobs here.. sorry.
To each it's own though, I'm not saying people can't like S/T. I like S/T, I just think it's the worst of all the albums PJ has put out.
And if that makes me a snob, well, I'd rather be a snob than someone who automatically likes anything the band puts out regardless of how it actually sounds.
I wasn't trying to suggest it's not that short, but rather to give a tangible idea of how long the 36 minutes is, and to also show it's not necessarily a sign that we're going to have especially short songs.
Not since Riot Act.
i post a pic of it tomorrow! it´s midnight this time in germany....
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on the cover of the magazin... just billy talent
With that said I am VERY excited for this new album. My favorite album of all time is Yield (which I think can be held in that category with no code and binaural as you said in your post) which is why I'm thrilled that brendan o'brien is back. And after hearing The End and Got Some, i feel like the band is back to making more interesting and less generic music. Now Got Some isn't really anything THAT groundbreaking and might have fit on S/T, but like I said, I feel like if it's produced properly, even the more generic sounding straight rockers can sound amazing, especially in the context of a varied and interesting album.
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Ten is only 11 songs and its a bout 55 minutes.
I personally dont buy it/ dont want to buy it. When I hear 11 songs and only 36 minutes all I can think of is that they are trying to squeeze every last bit of creative juice that they have left after all of these years. 36 minutes is like they tried to squeeze the juice out of a damp cloth.
That other guy who heard the album did say it had 12 songs and Got Some was the opener. So I'm going to believe that instead.
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If they released a new album that was 36 minutes long and it looked like this..
Brain of J
Faithful
Save You
Comatose
Go
Last Exit
In My Tree
Do the Evolution
Grievance
Porch
Oceans
11 songs, 36 minutes.. would it be so bad?
Billy Talent is big in Germany?