The Pacific

LloydXmas

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i download the 4 episodes and start to watch it!!!i love it...oh im in episode 3 now...u all can see the Greek hospitality...

You mean the mom with the great food right

dimitrispearljam

BabaBooey1979 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i download the 4 episodes and start to watch it!!!i love it...oh im in episode 3 now...u all can see the Greek hospitality...

You mean the mom with the great food right

ofcourse...

Flagg

I think I would have gone AWOL if I was Leckie. Lol.

Flagg

Part 5. Um, wow.

Brock Samson

Flagg wrote:

Part 5. Um, wow.

agreed, but it seemed short to me.

next weeks episode looks really good.

LloydXmas

Flagg wrote:

Part 5. Um, wow.

I need another hour tonight after he ripped the gold tooth out of that jap.

patrickredeyes

It just keeps getting better every week.

intodeep

Snafu is a dick.

i hope he gets what is coming to him.

Steve Dunne

agreed w/ the too short comment...even the wife said: 'that's it? that's only 40 minutes!'. I had to agree w/ her. good episode though. i'm so tempted to go back and watch episode 1-4 just to rework my brain but i'm sure i'll have plenty of time to do that in the years to come. still waiting for the 'Bastogne' of this series and I feel it's coming.

CHANGEinWAVES

that was really good... hard to watch at some parts.

intodeep

I wish they did a better job developing the secondary characters but I guess because they are following three people it is difficult.

I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.

Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow

Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?

youngster

Last night's episode was great but next week (episode 7) has potential to be the best so far. I am thorougly enjoying this series and have to say I like it more than Band of Brothers.

gabers

intodeep wrote:

Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first Sledge's- With the Old Bread or Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow

Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?

With the Old Bread - was that Sledge's cookbook?

I agree, I want to read their books now. The last two episodes were insane. Up until then you hardly saw a GI get killed but crap, they were just getting wasted at Peleliu. :( I'd say that beach landing on Part 5 was more intense than D Day on Saving Private Ryan.

intodeep

gabers wrote:

intodeep wrote:

Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first Sledge's- With the Old Bread or Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow

Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?

With the Old Bread - was that Sledge's cookbook?

.

Yes.... Yes it is actually It is a companion piece to "the old breed" that detaisl the food the men ate.... :oops:

tybird

BabaBooey1979 wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Part 5. Um, wow.

I need another hour tonight after he ripped the gold tooth out of that jap.

My wife knows the fella that character is probably based on...in her father's unit.

Flagg

intodeep wrote:

I wish they did a better job developing the secondary characters but I guess because they are following three people it is difficult.

I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.

Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow

Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?

I have read With the Old Breed. Definitely recommend it. It is probably the easiest to read military history books I have ever picked up because Sledge tells everything from his point of view. He goes into the details of a Marine's life in that war that no one else covers. From the food to the bugs to the mud and maggots and corpses and even how difficult going to the bathroom was. Peleliu was bad enough but his experience on Okinawa was enough to make anyone want to kill themselves just to be relieved of it.

Leckie seems a lot more cynical and jaded even before going into the war. Sledge was more naive and innocent. A lot of his book talks about his moral dilemma when it comes to killing. And struggling to maintain his sanity in unimaginable situations. Sledge also wasn't a professional writer.

It is virtually apolitical. Just a Marine telling a story about his time on the ground in two of the most horrible battles of war rather than boring you with the plans of a general or an admiral, etc.

Sledge also reminds you of the odds. Despite what most people think very, very few front line soldiers or Marines lived through the war. I mean all the way through, as in signing up in 1941 and fighting in every campaign along the way. Sledge landed on Okinawa with 253 men and officers in his company. During the battle they took on 240 or so replacements. By the end, only 26 of the original 253 were left. And of those, only 10 had survived Peleliu. I mean, think about that! It was different than it is now. There were now tours of duty or anything like that. You were in, and you stayed in until you were killed, wounded, or the war ended. He explains that no matter how much training or discipline you possessed, death was completely random.

He does his best to put you in his place. Until I read his book I had no idea that the Marines and Japanese at Okinawa had to sit in the rain for weeks, suffer from all kinds of diseases and infections, couldn't bury their dead, wash, eat, etc. Didn't know that on Peleliu, you couldn't even dig a small hole for a latrine because the entire island was coral rock. Or that is was 105 degrees and their water was contaminated with diesel fuel. It was a really eye-opening book. Even for someone who considers himself somewhat knowledgeable about it.

intodeep

Flagg wrote:

intodeep wrote:

I wish they did a better job developing the secondary characters but I guess because they are following three people it is difficult.

I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.

Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow

Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?

I have read With the Old Breed. Definitely recommend it. It is probably the easiest to read military history books I have ever picked up because Sledge tells everything from his point of view. He goes into the details of a Marine's life in that war that no one else covers. From the food to the bugs to the mud and maggots and corpses and even how difficult going to the bathroom was. Peleliu was bad enough but his experience on Okinawa was enough to make anyone want to kill themselves just to be relieved of it.

Leckie seems a lot more cynical and jaded even before going into the war. Sledge was more naive and innocent. A lot of his book talks about his moral dilemma when it comes to killing. And struggling to maintain his sanity in unimaginable situations. Sledge also wasn't a professional writer.

It is virtually apolitical. Just a Marine telling a story about his time on the ground in two of the most horrible battles of war rather than boring you with the plans of a general or an admiral, etc.

Sledge also reminds you of the odds. Despite what most people think very, very few front line soldiers or Marines lived through the war. I mean all the way through, as in signing up in 1941 and fighting in every campaign along the way. Sledge landed on Okinawa with 253 men and officers in his company. During the battle they took on 240 or so replacements. By the end, only 26 of the original 253 were left. And of those, only 10 had survived Peleliu. I mean, think about that! It was different than it is now. There were now tours of duty or anything like that. You were in, and you stayed in until you were killed, wounded, or the war ended. He explains that no matter how much training or discipline you possessed, death was completely random.

He does his best to put you in his place. Until I read his book I had no idea that the Marines and Japanese at Okinawa had to sit in the rain for weeks, suffer from all kinds of diseases and infections, couldn't bury their dead, wash, eat, etc. Didn't know that on Peleliu, you couldn't even dig a small hole for a latrine because the entire island was coral rock. Or that is was 105 degrees and their water was contaminated with diesel fuel. It was a really eye-opening book. Even for someone who considers himself somewhat knowledgeable about it.

Very cool. Thank you for the recap.
I have a feeling I might like Leckie’s more. I like his character a lot on the show.
I think I’m going to go with Sledge’s though and then probably read Leckie’s after that.

Brock Samson

i saw this book a few days ago, too. supposed to be the companion book to the series.

http://www.borders.com/online/store/Tit ... 045123023X

i flipped through it and thought about picking it up, but i just can't afford it right now...trying to save every penny i have for the shows i'm going to. but after the shows are done, this will be the first thing i purchase.

intodeep

moe.ron wrote:

i saw this book a few days ago, too. supposed to be the companion book to the series.

http://www.borders.com/online/store/Tit ... 045123023X

i flipped through it and thought about picking it up, but i just can't afford it right now...trying to save every penny i have for the shows i'm going to. but after the shows are done, this will be the first thing i purchase.

That does look pretty cool.

I picked up with the old breed last night and have read up to the point where he goes into combat. Pretty good so far and a very easy read. Everything comes across as very honest.

patrickredeyes

Another amazing episode tonight.