i download the 4 episodes and start to watch it!!!i love it...oh im in episode 3 now...u all can see the Greek hospitality...
You mean the mom with the great food right
ofcourse...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
agreed w/ the too short comment...even the wife said: 'that's it? that's only 40 minutes!'. I had to agree w/ her. good episode though. i'm so tempted to go back and watch episode 1-4 just to rework my brain but i'm sure i'll have plenty of time to do that in the years to come. still waiting for the 'Bastogne' of this series and I feel it's coming.
I wish they did a better job developing the secondary characters but I guess because they are following three people it is difficult.
I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.
Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow
Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?
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Last night's episode was great but next week (episode 7) has potential to be the best so far. I am thorougly enjoying this series and have to say I like it more than Band of Brothers.
Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first Sledge's- With the Old Bread or Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow
Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?
With the Old Bread - was that Sledge's cookbook?
I agree, I want to read their books now. The last two episodes were insane. Up until then you hardly saw a GI get killed but crap, they were just getting wasted at Peleliu. :( I'd say that beach landing on Part 5 was more intense than D Day on Saving Private Ryan.
Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first Sledge's- With the Old Bread or Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow
Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?
With the Old Bread - was that Sledge's cookbook?
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Yes.... Yes it is actually It is a companion piece to "the old breed" that detaisl the food the men ate.... :oops:
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I need another hour tonight after he ripped the gold tooth out of that jap.
My wife knows the fella that character is probably based on...in her father's unit.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I wish they did a better job developing the secondary characters but I guess because they are following three people it is difficult.
I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.
Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow
Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?
I have read With the Old Breed. Definitely recommend it. It is probably the easiest to read military history books I have ever picked up because Sledge tells everything from his point of view. He goes into the details of a Marine's life in that war that no one else covers. From the food to the bugs to the mud and maggots and corpses and even how difficult going to the bathroom was. Peleliu was bad enough but his experience on Okinawa was enough to make anyone want to kill themselves just to be relieved of it.
Leckie seems a lot more cynical and jaded even before going into the war. Sledge was more naive and innocent. A lot of his book talks about his moral dilemma when it comes to killing. And struggling to maintain his sanity in unimaginable situations. Sledge also wasn't a professional writer.
It is virtually apolitical. Just a Marine telling a story about his time on the ground in two of the most horrible battles of war rather than boring you with the plans of a general or an admiral, etc.
Sledge also reminds you of the odds. Despite what most people think very, very few front line soldiers or Marines lived through the war. I mean all the way through, as in signing up in 1941 and fighting in every campaign along the way. Sledge landed on Okinawa with 253 men and officers in his company. During the battle they took on 240 or so replacements. By the end, only 26 of the original 253 were left. And of those, only 10 had survived Peleliu. I mean, think about that! It was different than it is now. There were now tours of duty or anything like that. You were in, and you stayed in until you were killed, wounded, or the war ended. He explains that no matter how much training or discipline you possessed, death was completely random.
He does his best to put you in his place. Until I read his book I had no idea that the Marines and Japanese at Okinawa had to sit in the rain for weeks, suffer from all kinds of diseases and infections, couldn't bury their dead, wash, eat, etc. Didn't know that on Peleliu, you couldn't even dig a small hole for a latrine because the entire island was coral rock. Or that is was 105 degrees and their water was contaminated with diesel fuel. It was a really eye-opening book. Even for someone who considers himself somewhat knowledgeable about it.
I wish they did a better job developing the secondary characters but I guess because they are following three people it is difficult.
I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.
Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow
Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?
I have read With the Old Breed. Definitely recommend it. It is probably the easiest to read military history books I have ever picked up because Sledge tells everything from his point of view. He goes into the details of a Marine's life in that war that no one else covers. From the food to the bugs to the mud and maggots and corpses and even how difficult going to the bathroom was. Peleliu was bad enough but his experience on Okinawa was enough to make anyone want to kill themselves just to be relieved of it.
Leckie seems a lot more cynical and jaded even before going into the war. Sledge was more naive and innocent. A lot of his book talks about his moral dilemma when it comes to killing. And struggling to maintain his sanity in unimaginable situations. Sledge also wasn't a professional writer.
It is virtually apolitical. Just a Marine telling a story about his time on the ground in two of the most horrible battles of war rather than boring you with the plans of a general or an admiral, etc.
Sledge also reminds you of the odds. Despite what most people think very, very few front line soldiers or Marines lived through the war. I mean all the way through, as in signing up in 1941 and fighting in every campaign along the way. Sledge landed on Okinawa with 253 men and officers in his company. During the battle they took on 240 or so replacements. By the end, only 26 of the original 253 were left. And of those, only 10 had survived Peleliu. I mean, think about that! It was different than it is now. There were now tours of duty or anything like that. You were in, and you stayed in until you were killed, wounded, or the war ended. He explains that no matter how much training or discipline you possessed, death was completely random.
He does his best to put you in his place. Until I read his book I had no idea that the Marines and Japanese at Okinawa had to sit in the rain for weeks, suffer from all kinds of diseases and infections, couldn't bury their dead, wash, eat, etc. Didn't know that on Peleliu, you couldn't even dig a small hole for a latrine because the entire island was coral rock. Or that is was 105 degrees and their water was contaminated with diesel fuel. It was a really eye-opening book. Even for someone who considers himself somewhat knowledgeable about it.
Very cool. Thank you for the recap.
I have a feeling I might like Leckie’s more. I like his character a lot on the show.
I think I’m going to go with Sledge’s though and then probably read Leckie’s after that.
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i flipped through it and thought about picking it up, but i just can't afford it right now...trying to save every penny i have for the shows i'm going to. but after the shows are done, this will be the first thing i purchase.
i flipped through it and thought about picking it up, but i just can't afford it right now...trying to save every penny i have for the shows i'm going to. but after the shows are done, this will be the first thing i purchase.
That does look pretty cool.
I picked up with the old breed last night and have read up to the point where he goes into combat. Pretty good so far and a very easy read. Everything comes across as very honest.
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Yeah, easily the best episode of the series. I think it was very effective in trying to show us what it must have been like to go through that hell for 30+ days and nights. I mean, just imagine that. You could see Sledge slowing starting to lose it as the days drug on. I don't know how anyone could ever come to grips with living through something like that.
And just think, his experience on Okinawa was even more horrible.
shit!!!!i just watch the episode 7!!!!the best so far!!!very touchy!!!and great soundtrack too!!!!!!
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
that girl was smokin hot. both girls that were featured actually. loved the prologue from the Marine who talked about going to Oz and the experiences. A complete departure from episode 2...wasn't expecting that. looking forward to next week.
Yeah, that was great. "Those girls needed attention and we endeavored to do a good job." Hilarious!
Another winning episode. I am not as familiar with Leckie as I am with Sledge. Looks like he gets into some trouble next week.
I wish it was that easy in Oz nowadays
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Watching this series has gotten me thinking about the horrors of war. The fact that it is a soldier's job to kill the enemy in order to meet military objectives is so difficult to fathom. Imagine having to deal with the images of seeing your colleagues killed or the images of killing an enemy soldier point blank.
Even more shocking is the fact that most of the soldiers were under the age of 20.
Watching this series has gotten me thinking about the horrors of war. The fact that is a soldier's job to kill the enemy in order to meet military objectives is so difficult to fathom. Imagine having to deal with the images of seeing your colleagues killed or the images of killing an enemy soldier point blank.
Even more shocking is the fact that most of the soldiers were under the age of 20.
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
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HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
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Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
agreed, but it seemed short to me.
next weeks episode looks really good.
i hope he gets what is coming to him.
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I have to assume that now that Leckie is hurt we won't see much of him and we'll focus on Sledge the rest of the way. Which is too bad i realy liked leckie.
Has anyone read the memoirs? I think i've going to read them, but i was wondering which i should read first
Sledge's- With the Old Breed
or
Leckie's- Helmet for my PIllow
Anyone who has read them can you offer which you enjoyed more and why?
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9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
With the Old Bread - was that Sledge's cookbook?
I agree, I want to read their books now. The last two episodes were insane. Up until then you hardly saw a GI get killed but crap, they were just getting wasted at Peleliu. :( I'd say that beach landing on Part 5 was more intense than D Day on Saving Private Ryan.
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I have read With the Old Breed. Definitely recommend it. It is probably the easiest to read military history books I have ever picked up because Sledge tells everything from his point of view. He goes into the details of a Marine's life in that war that no one else covers. From the food to the bugs to the mud and maggots and corpses and even how difficult going to the bathroom was. Peleliu was bad enough but his experience on Okinawa was enough to make anyone want to kill themselves just to be relieved of it.
Leckie seems a lot more cynical and jaded even before going into the war. Sledge was more naive and innocent. A lot of his book talks about his moral dilemma when it comes to killing. And struggling to maintain his sanity in unimaginable situations. Sledge also wasn't a professional writer.
It is virtually apolitical. Just a Marine telling a story about his time on the ground in two of the most horrible battles of war rather than boring you with the plans of a general or an admiral, etc.
Sledge also reminds you of the odds. Despite what most people think very, very few front line soldiers or Marines lived through the war. I mean all the way through, as in signing up in 1941 and fighting in every campaign along the way. Sledge landed on Okinawa with 253 men and officers in his company. During the battle they took on 240 or so replacements. By the end, only 26 of the original 253 were left. And of those, only 10 had survived Peleliu. I mean, think about that! It was different than it is now. There were now tours of duty or anything like that. You were in, and you stayed in until you were killed, wounded, or the war ended. He explains that no matter how much training or discipline you possessed, death was completely random.
He does his best to put you in his place. Until I read his book I had no idea that the Marines and Japanese at Okinawa had to sit in the rain for weeks, suffer from all kinds of diseases and infections, couldn't bury their dead, wash, eat, etc. Didn't know that on Peleliu, you couldn't even dig a small hole for a latrine because the entire island was coral rock. Or that is was 105 degrees and their water was contaminated with diesel fuel. It was a really eye-opening book. Even for someone who considers himself somewhat knowledgeable about it.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
I have a feeling I might like Leckie’s more. I like his character a lot on the show.
I think I’m going to go with Sledge’s though and then probably read Leckie’s after that.
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i flipped through it and thought about picking it up, but i just can't afford it right now...trying to save every penny i have for the shows i'm going to. but after the shows are done, this will be the first thing i purchase.
I picked up with the old breed last night and have read up to the point where he goes into combat. Pretty good so far and a very easy read. Everything comes across as very honest.
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I agree. I think this was the best episode I have seen so far. Very intense battle scenes. Had me on the edge of my seat.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
Yea I agree very intense and maybe the best episode so far. Battle of Iwo Jima is coming up next. Will see how that goes.
That scene with Sledge and the the nurse with the orange juice was intense . I can't imagine the nightmares these boys/men had after it was all over.
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And just think, his experience on Okinawa was even more horrible.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I wish it was that easy in Oz nowadays
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Very well done!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Even more shocking is the fact that most of the soldiers were under the age of 20.
Very powerful stuff!
Some were even under 18 which is just unreal.