Meaning of Got Some

cincybearcat

pickupyourwill wrote:

all I know is...he's got some, and I need it.

I just wonder how many more of these types of posts before I start hating the song.

U R A Crazy Breed

he's got 2 kids...we know he "got some".....


seriously though....there is no doubt in my mind this song was written about the Obama admin. and i'm glad Ed is still being Ed as far as that goes...he never seemed the kool-aid type to me

that's why they chose to bust it out on Conan IMO

I don't think "No More" is ready for the shelf either...we shall see....

cincybearcat

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

he's got 2 kids...we know he "got some".....


seriously though....there is no doubt in my mind this song was written about the Obama admin. and i'm glad Ed is still being Ed as far as that goes...he never seemed the kool-aid type to me

that's why they chose to bust it out on Conan IMO

I don't think "No More" is ready for the shelf either...we shall see....

Hmmm...I think it's more about everyone. A recognition that the feeling in the US and world abotu issues shifted. It shifted enough for Obama to become the first black president of the US. But that is just the starting point, not the destination. So, now what? What are you going to do now? Will it go back to same ole' same ole' or will we keep "carrying on"? So, directed at Obama as well, but mostly to the people that put him there (to hold him accoutable). I don't think it's saying that everything is the same and Obama is failing and the people have failed. But I think it's a warning that you must keep working. And....if you need some help along the way...Pearl Jam has some motivation to spare to help you.

U R A Crazy Breed

cincybearcat wrote:

Hmmm...I think it's more about everyone. A recognition that the feeling in the US and world abotu issues shifted. It shifted enough for Obama to become the first black president of the US. But that is just the starting point, not the destination. So, now what? What are you going to do now? Will it go back to same ole' same ole' or will we keep "carrying on"? So, directed at Obama as well, but mostly to the people that put him there (to hold him accoutable). I don't think it's saying that everything is the same and Obama is failing and the people have failed. But I think it's a warning that you must keep working. And....if you need some help along the way...Pearl Jam has some motivation to spare to help you.

This situation, what side are you on?

Obama are you with the American people as you claimed to be? or are you just another whore for the masters of war?

Are you dropping bombs, are you getting out?

Obama are you going to further the escalation of this war(like how he has bombed Pakistan many times since taking office) or are you going to end it like you promised?

Have you heard of diplomatic resolve? Yeah!

Try using peace instead of bombs!!




that's the only way you can construe these lyrics IMO

decides2dream

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Hmmm...I think it's more about everyone. A recognition that the feeling in the US and world abotu issues shifted. It shifted enough for Obama to become the first black president of the US. But that is just the starting point, not the destination. So, now what? What are you going to do now? Will it go back to same ole' same ole' or will we keep "carrying on"? So, directed at Obama as well, but mostly to the people that put him there (to hold him accoutable). I don't think it's saying that everything is the same and Obama is failing and the people have failed. But I think it's a warning that you must keep working. And....if you need some help along the way...Pearl Jam has some motivation to spare to help you.

This situation, what side are you on?

Obama are you with the American people as you claimed to be? or are you just another whore for the masters of war?

Are you dropping bombs, are you getting out?

Obama are you going to further the escalation of this war(like how he has bombed Pakistan many times since taking office) or are you going to end it like you promised?

Have you heard of diplomatic resolve? Yeah!

Try using peace instead of bombs!!




that's the only way you can construe these lyrics IMO

well all know what opinions are like, eh? j/k.
seriously...i think you BOTH are right. i think it's a message for US ALL...which of course ALSO includes OBAMA. and i think it reaches far outside the USA as well......it's a global message, not just for citizens at home. it also still feels so *positive*...hope is still there...that we CAN do what we set out to do, we just have to choose to.....and yea, ed and the boys 'got some' and then some to spare, and share.....


of course this simply my little ole opinion too.....

cincybearcat

decides2dream wrote:

well all know what opinions are like, eh? j/k.
seriously...i think you BOTH are right. i think it's a message for US ALL...which of course ALSO includes OBAMA. and i think it reaches far outside the USA as well......it's a global message, not just for citizens at home. it also still feels so *positive*...hope is still there...that we CAN do what we set out to do, we just have to choose to.....and yea, ed and the boys 'got some' and then some to spare, and share.....


of course this simply my little ole opinion too.....

Yep, I'm not saying I'm right, just sharing my thoughts. And I have a bias as I prefer to think of PJ lyrics to be more broadening rather than focused on 1 specific person.

My overal feeling of the song is it is not a judgment, it is a warning and motivational.

fortyshades

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Hmmm...I think it's more about everyone. A recognition that the feeling in the US and world abotu issues shifted. It shifted enough for Obama to become the first black president of the US. But that is just the starting point, not the destination. So, now what? What are you going to do now? Will it go back to same ole' same ole' or will we keep "carrying on"? So, directed at Obama as well, but mostly to the people that put him there (to hold him accoutable). I don't think it's saying that everything is the same and Obama is failing and the people have failed. But I think it's a warning that you must keep working. And....if you need some help along the way...Pearl Jam has some motivation to spare to help you.

This situation, what side are you on?

Obama are you with the American people as you claimed to be? or are you just another whore for the masters of war?

Are you dropping bombs, are you getting out?

Obama are you going to further the escalation of this war(like how he has bombed Pakistan many times since taking office) or are you going to end it like you promised?

Have you heard of diplomatic resolve? Yeah!

Try using peace instead of bombs!!




that's the only way you can construe these lyrics IMO

I do think this song is way too personalized in the way you explain it. Is he also singing to Obama to enjoy a rock song and get some from Pearl Jam? The lyrics are more general than that IMO; aimed at a group or the public not one individual...

I think that we can discuss the politics until the end of times and probably don't agree. (Besides there is another forum for that.) One side remark tho: the war in Afghanistan is *not* an US operation. It's an operation by NATO and authorized by the UN. So far we know Ed Vedder could be singing this song, if we follow your train of thought, to Jaap de Hoop Scheffer (secretary general) or Ban Ki-moon.

To bhe clear: the war is Afghanistan is not (only) a national affair.

decides2dream

cincybearcat wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

well all know what opinions are like, eh? j/k.
seriously...i think you BOTH are right. i think it's a message for US ALL...which of course ALSO includes OBAMA. and i think it reaches far outside the USA as well......it's a global message, not just for citizens at home. it also still feels so *positive*...hope is still there...that we CAN do what we set out to do, we just have to choose to.....and yea, ed and the boys 'got some' and then some to spare, and share.....


of course this simply my little ole opinion too.....

Yep, I'm not saying I'm right, just sharing my thoughts. And I have a bias as I prefer to think of PJ lyrics to be more broadening rather than focused on 1 specific person.

My overal feeling of the song is it is not a judgment, it is a warning and motivational.

agreed, agreed...
and truly the beauty of art...music....no matter what the songwriter/artist may've had in mind when creating, it is ALL so open to interpretation, there is no *wrong*...just your own perspective, and that's a big part of what makes it all so fucking fantastic. i find it extremely motivational, in a very positive way......i think we all *need it*

electronblue

Back_Pedal wrote:

Has anyone actually worked out the lyrics yet? When i first heard it I thought he was saying "I got a song if you need it". I had to see the song title to get it, lol.

i thought ed was singing that and i thought..

well..ok then share some more of your songs with us , eddie.

fortyshades

decides2dream wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

well all know what opinions are like, eh? j/k.
seriously...i think you BOTH are right. i think it's a message for US ALL...which of course ALSO includes OBAMA. and i think it reaches far outside the USA as well......it's a global message, not just for citizens at home. it also still feels so *positive*...hope is still there...that we CAN do what we set out to do, we just have to choose to.....and yea, ed and the boys 'got some' and then some to spare, and share.....


of course this simply my little ole opinion too.....

Yep, I'm not saying I'm right, just sharing my thoughts. And I have a bias as I prefer to think of PJ lyrics to be more broadening rather than focused on 1 specific person.

My overal feeling of the song is it is not a judgment, it is a warning and motivational.

agreed, agreed...
and truly the beauty of art...music....no matter what the songwriter/artist may've had in mind when creating, it is ALL so open to interpretation, there is no *wrong*...just your own perspective, and that's a big part of what makes it all so fucking fantastic. i find it extremely motivational, in a very positive way......i think we all *need it*

Completly agree... That is what makes art always personal. (That's also the reason why discussions get heated.) God knows, I want some

slightofjeff

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

Hmmm...I think it's more about everyone. A recognition that the feeling in the US and world abotu issues shifted. It shifted enough for Obama to become the first black president of the US. But that is just the starting point, not the destination. So, now what? What are you going to do now? Will it go back to same ole' same ole' or will we keep "carrying on"? So, directed at Obama as well, but mostly to the people that put him there (to hold him accoutable). I don't think it's saying that everything is the same and Obama is failing and the people have failed. But I think it's a warning that you must keep working. And....if you need some help along the way...Pearl Jam has some motivation to spare to help you.

This situation, what side are you on?

Obama are you with the American people as you claimed to be? or are you just another whore for the masters of war?

Are you dropping bombs, are you getting out?

Obama are you going to further the escalation of this war(like how he has bombed Pakistan many times since taking office) or are you going to end it like you promised?

Have you heard of diplomatic resolve? Yeah!

Try using peace instead of bombs!!




that's the only way you can construe these lyrics IMO

It is almost certain these lyrics were written months ago, maybe even before Obama was elected. Might have been written in the middle of the election.

As such, I don't think they are meant to be anti-Obama. I think you are projecting your own biases onto it, which is only natural I suppose.

I'm not an Obama guy either, but I find it odd Ed would turn so viciously on Obama only a couple of months after blowing him nightly from rock stages across America. Just doesn't make sense. Not even Ed is *that* knee-jerk.

slightofjeff

Bumping this thread. Did anybody catch the bonus performance of RITFW from Conan?

Ed sings, "There's a son of the people ... says keep hope alive."

Kind of blows up the notion that this "Got Some" is anti-Obama, eh?

SolarWorld

slightofjeff wrote:

Bumping this thread. Did anybody catch the bonus performance of RITFW from Conan?

Ed sings, "There's a son of the people ... says keep hope alive."

Kind of blows up the notion that this "Got Some" is anti-Obama, eh?

Blow it up son

I got some motivation, if anyone needs some... come on lets carry on!

Has anyone besides me thought the "are you dropping bombs" line is directed at the morons in Washington, namely the GOP leaders? Are you going to be diplomatic leaders and resolve things? Or are you going to continue to drop political "bombs". That's what I get from Ed's lyrics...

Carry on! Carry on!

IamMine

I can't believe I'm saying this...

But I am enjoying this thread more than the song itself.... :oops:

Happy Saturday!

Keep this thread goooiinnggg!!

Love everyone's inputs!

iluvcats

ARazorbackguy1 wrote:

I was thinking that Eddie was just bragging about getting laid.

me too; because otherwise, I had trouble understanding/hearing.

slightofjeff

SolarWorld wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

Bumping this thread. Did anybody catch the bonus performance of RITFW from Conan?

Ed sings, "There's a son of the people ... says keep hope alive."

Kind of blows up the notion that this "Got Some" is anti-Obama, eh?

Blow it up son

I got some motivation, if anyone needs some... come on lets carry on!

Has anyone besides me thought the "are you dropping bombs" line is directed at the morons in Washington, namely the GOP leaders? Are you going to be diplomatic leaders and resolve things? Or are you going to continue to drop political "bombs". That's what I get from Ed's lyrics...

Carry on! Carry on!

This is a good point.

I've wondered if the "bombs" might be metaphorical. Or philosophical. "Are you of the mindset that believes dropping bombs is the only way to resolve things? Or, you know, have you heard of dipolmatic resolve?"

It might be directed at any of us -- presidents, politicians, average Americans -- who might believe this song.

I almost believe the lyrics for this song were written BEFORE the election, and not after.