Is this getting out of hand now?

norm

Kat wrote:

Maybe next time and good god I hope there isn't a next time, people could trust a little bit and have faith that there is something wrong with the information...deleting it is a hint that there is a problem. See Posting Guidelines.

xo

just in case it was missed

slightofjeff

decides2dream wrote:

while i wouldn't say they 'worry' me...i just wonder why, briefly, anyway. it IS great fun when the whole 'censorship' issue comes up tho, time and again, b/c clearly...some people don't truly understand what freedom of speech really is about. and believe me, pearl jam is "important" to me in that i love their music, i love seeing them live, i love the community, etc.....but yes, not so much that i will get up in arms over happenings here. c'est la vie.....takes all kinds, and that's what makes it so interesting reading/participating.

I'm talking more along the lines of people who react akin to Anne Frank after the Nazis dragged her family away, wailing and gnashing teeth and demanding an explanation.

I find those people humorous ... but also frightening. I'm afraid one of these people is going to pull a "Misery" on Ed one of these days. "But I'M your No. 1 fan!"

pjtradeking

Nice to see some level headed DISCUSSION and different views going on here for a change. Thought this might be heading for deletion last night when I left . Whether it is KAT making and appearance and calming the waters, or simply cooler heads prevailing, I for ONE hope that this trend continues no matter the topic. :-)

decides2dream

norm wrote:

Kat wrote:

Maybe next time and good god I hope there isn't a next time, people could trust a little bit and have faith that there is something wrong with the information...deleting it is a hint that there is a problem. See Posting Guidelines.

xo

just in case it was missed

ahhhh....another voice of reason.
and again, eggs-actly.
that's really all i was getting at...do we REALLY need kat or sea to tell us that? EVERY time? :P
that was all......



and slightofjeff....sweet bejeebus, thank you for that!
soooo made me laugh!

i hear ya.....some get *too* upset perhaps. now if they were discussing something important, say UHC, at least then i could understand. haha.

slightofjeff

decides2dream wrote:

norm wrote:

Kat wrote:

Maybe next time and good god I hope there isn't a next time, people could trust a little bit and have faith that there is something wrong with the information...deleting it is a hint that there is a problem. See Posting Guidelines.

xo

just in case it was missed

ahhhh....another voice of reason.
and again, eggs-actly.
that's really all i was getting at...do we REALLY need kat or sea to tell us that? EVERY time? :P
that was all......



and slightofjeff....sweet bejeebus, thank you for that!
soooo made me laugh!

i hear ya.....some get *too* upset perhaps. now if they were discussing something important, say UHC, at least then i could understand. haha.

Laughs: I got some if you need it.

woundedorgan

calling any blog shitty is like calling the grass green.

IamMine

slightofjeff wrote:

Laughs: I got some if you need it.

Jeanwah

decides2dream wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

People who get irate about locked or deleted threads worry me. It's just a message board. It shouldn't be that important to you.

Find a hobby. Take up knitting. Get laid. Do something so that what happens on a message board doesn't so drastically affect your life.

while i wouldn't say they 'worry' me...i just wonder why, briefly, anyway. it IS great fun when the whole 'censorship' issue comes up tho, time and again, b/c clearly...some people don't truly understand what freedom of speech really is about. and believe me, pearl jam is "important" to me in that i love their music, i love seeing them live, i love the community, etc.....but yes, not so much that i will get up in arms over happenings here. c'est la vie.....takes all kinds, and that's what makes it so interesting reading/participating.

And you boring, live by the rules, shop at Walmart and Target people, you worry me. To each, his own.

decides2dream

slightofjeff wrote:

Laughs: I got some if you need it.

well done.

Jeanwah wrote:

And you boring, live by the rules, shop at Walmart and Target people...you worry me. To each, his own.

hahahahahaha.
that's what you get from all this?
good stuff.

to each his/her own tho...absolutely!



i knew the rules but the rules did not know me...guaranteed.
no one is saying to live by rules necessarily, nor never to question....i merely find it amusing how surprised, up in arms, wanting hand-holding some come by when they don't follow the rules, and there are consequences. that is all. however, target is a fantastic store, and actually a pretty decent 'model' of behavior for a big corp.....glad pj sees that, sees them as a good partner. it doesn't always have to be 'all or none'.......the inbetween is possible, and oftentimes desirable. however, i have never shopped in wal mart.

norm

decides2dream wrote:

i merely find it amusing how surprised, up in arms, wanting hand-holding some come by when they don't follow the rules, and there are consequences.

god forbid, people should be responsible for their actions...

decides2dream

norm wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

i merely find it amusing how surprised, up in arms, wanting hand-holding some come by when they don't follow the rules, and there are consequences.

god forbid, people should be responsible for their actions...

now, now...don't be boring.......;)



seriously tho, getting back on topic :shock: - if one removes the whole 'shitty blog' comment.......would anyone really *fault* 10c/pj for all this? and it's NOT about following the rules, gawd forbid, tho they are there for a legit reason...but it's about RESPECTing the band, their music, their art, their chosen delivery, you know.....THEIR WANTS for their own intellectual property. beyond that......all the rest of it, totally 'debateble'....and hey, if anyone wants to get *upset* over them partnering with target or whomever else, how they choose to run their own message board, how/where/when they release info, etc...more power to em! as i've said, i see it ALL as pj being pj, as ever, doing things their way, their choice. respect intact there. c'est la vie!

norm

decides2dream wrote:

norm wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

i merely find it amusing how surprised, up in arms, wanting hand-holding some come by when they don't follow the rules, and there are consequences.

god forbid, people should be responsible for their actions...

now, now...don't be boring.......;)



seriously tho, getting back on topic :shock: - if one removes the whole 'shitty blog' comment.......would anyone really *fault* 10c/pj for all this? and it's NOT about following the rules, gawd forbid, tho they are there for a legit reason...but it's about RESPECTing the band, their music, their art, their chosen delivery, you know.....THEIR WANTS for their own intellectual property. beyond that......all the rest of it, totally 'debateble'....and hey, if anyone wants to get *upset* over them partnering with target or whomever else, how they choose to run their own message board, how/where/when they release info, etc...more power to em! as i've said, i see it ALL as pj being pj, as ever, doing things their way, their choice. respect intact there. c'est la vie!

saying shitty blog is immature and frankly not a good pr move

redrock

slightofjeff wrote:

Find a hobby. Take up knitting. Get laid..

**ponders what she should choose.. knit or get laid??**

decides2dream

norm wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

now, now...don't be boring.......;)



seriously tho, getting back on topic :shock: - if one removes the whole 'shitty blog' comment.......would anyone really *fault* 10c/pj for all this? and it's NOT about following the rules, gawd forbid, tho they are there for a legit reason...but it's about RESPECTing the band, their music, their art, their chosen delivery, you know.....THEIR WANTS for their own intellectual property. beyond that......all the rest of it, totally 'debateble'....and hey, if anyone wants to get *upset* over them partnering with target or whomever else, how they choose to run their own message board, how/where/when they release info, etc...more power to em! as i've said, i see it ALL as pj being pj, as ever, doing things their way, their choice. respect intact there. c'est la vie!

saying shitty blog is immature and frankly not a good pr move

agreed.
do notice that i said "if one removes the whole 'shitty blog' comment".........
bottomline....pj/10c were/are in the *right* here......even if someone made the unprofessional/immature gaffe of 'shitty blog'.......how's that for a *human element* to 10c eh?


anyhoooooooo...i'm out for the evening.....catch all you crazed fans tomorrow..........

brainofc

decides2dream wrote:

norm wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

i merely find it amusing how surprised, up in arms, wanting hand-holding some come by when they don't follow the rules, and there are consequences.

god forbid, people should be responsible for their actions...

now, now...don't be boring.......;)



seriously tho, getting back on topic :shock: - if one removes the whole 'shitty blog' comment.......would anyone really *fault* 10c/pj for all this? and it's NOT about following the rules, gawd forbid, tho they are there for a legit reason...but it's about RESPECTing the band, their music, their art, their chosen delivery, you know.....THEIR WANTS for their own intellectual property. beyond that......all the rest of it, totally 'debateble'....and hey, if anyone wants to get *upset* over them partnering with target or whomever else, how they choose to run their own message board, how/where/when they release info, etc...more power to em! as i've said, i see it ALL as pj being pj, as ever, doing things their way, their choice. respect intact there. c'est la vie!

I absolutely agree. My only problem with the whole situation was the "Shitty blog" comment (if it really happened). There are always three sides to every store 1. my side 2. your side and 3. the truth. Everything else is totally debatable and at the end of the day I'm happy knowing that I'll have a new album some time in September (I don't care where they end up selling it because there are no Targets in Canada(and I'm buying it from 10c)) and at the very least I'll see them once in the summer here in Toronto.

Enjoy the rest of the conversation and I'm now going back into official lurker status.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Kat wrote:

It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.

And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.

xo

I had an image of Nigella Lawson in a swimsuit, saying that reaaaaaaaaaally slowly.


Anyway, back on topic ....

benjs

Kat wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Thank you for the info Kat.
Now can we have what you said as a sticky, to stop all of this? And can we have better communication so it doesn't get to this point in the future? It's not an unrealistic thing to ask for. Please?

It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.

And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.

xo

Kat, would you mind sharing your apple pie recipe? I'm a sucker for apple pie, and just this description made me salivate.

einatshaul

:arrow:

slightofjeff wrote:

I just have seven words to add:

I got some if you need it.

I've done my reading for today

my2hands

there is no fucking crying in rock n roll...


i am sick o' pussies, and that includes fans and the band management...

fans, leave the management alone, they are trying their best and do a great fucking job in my opinion... management, stop yelling at the fans, they are the reason you can feed your family and they are allowed to have opinions, good and bad


i almost forgot why i stopped coming here :roll:

slightofjeff

redrock wrote:

slightofjeff wrote:

Find a hobby. Take up knitting. Get laid..

**ponders what she should choose.. knit or get laid??**

If you play your cards right ... and have the right kind of talent ... you could probably do both.