I'm now reading that Trudeau was asked to be there by the band, so I will accept that I was wrong to criticize his being there (though I do maintain it would have been more appropriate for him to have attended one of the other concerts).
Good for you, Darth.
Respect for this post.
I'm watching it again right now. Hard not to be emotional. I blundered with the pvr. I shoulda recorded half hour past the scheduled end time. Missed the last tune.
If Harper had received an invite... he woulda said, "Hrumph. I will not be going to any... hip hop concert" while sitting in his smoking chair!
Kidding.
Sorta.
Got a good chuckle out of me, at any rate, lol.
Thanks for the post above that one, sorry about your pvr, there was a link in another thread (on the porch) with the audio of the show. I'll be giving it a listen while going back and forth to appointments tomorrow, lol.
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
I think that the Jaws t-shirt is an inside joke (sic) about the looming doom that is coming to the man. My personal opinion only.
Somebody on here commented about how old he looks now, and I thought that when then started this tour. Chemo and other things will do that to you.
Missed the CBC show due to circumstances beyond my control. But have been catching up with it on youtube and having a personal party this weekend with a PVR.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Like many people, I was unimpressed with the Trudeauness of the show, my skin began to crawl during the second reference and showing of him. Keep in mind though, Gord brought the attention to him. It was The Hip and Gord's night, I just wish it was ONLY about them....no celebrity sightings at the show and no politics involved. The only solace for me was that Ed's comments in Chicago seemed to garner more attention in the Canadian media than Justin being in attendance. Thanks Ed!
PJ Soul, I may be "sadly" cynical, but could you please try and see it from my point of view (and that of many others I suspect) for a moment. Can you not see how Trudeau's appearance could leave a sour taste in my mouth? How might you (and others) have reacted had it been Harper attending as PM, receiving the same response from Downie?
To get back on topic (since there's another thread for talking about the current PM), it was nice to see Ed's dedication of Light Years to Downie last night reported on the local news station today.
Nope. I think it's basically incredibly strange to feel that way, sorry, and no way in hell would I have criticized Harper if it had been him, no matter how stiff and out of place and clueless he would have been, hahaha. I would have assumed he was there because the event meant so much to Canadians so he wanted to be a part of it to show support for the national unity that it created. I might have even been pleasantly surprised. It makes sense Trudeau was there given his age and love for music, so no surprises there. I think it's fairly bizarre that this irked you (doubt Gord would have appreciated Harper being there as much though, lol).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Seeing how much energy it took out of Downie, one can't help but agree. I liked his crack about the 2-sock scarf, and how it took him 28 years to figure that one out, lol.
I agree he expended a lot of energy for that show, the 2 scarf sock crack was great...
Loved that two-sock scarf! I really laughed about that.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm now reading that Trudeau was asked to be there by the band, so I will accept that I was wrong to criticize his being there (though I do maintain it would have been more appropriate for him to have attended one of the other concerts).
Still crazy to me that you think he should have attended one of the other concerts instead. That seems like a really random and pointless desire, but I'm glad you've come around about the meaning of his attendance at the Kingston show. Anyone could tell that it meant a lot to people, including Trudeau. And by all accounts (besides yours), Trudeau's presence was warmly felt by fans.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
If Harper had received an invite... he woulda said, "Hrumph. I will not be going to any... hip hop concert" while sitting in his smoking chair!
Kidding.
Sorta.
Lol. He would have been like, "The Tragically who?" Btw, I read an ar5icle that listed some of what's on Trudeau's personal music Playlist like in iTunes or whatever he uses, and he has some pretty fine taste in music.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Who cares whether Trudeau was there. The hip read a prepared statement that was approved by the PMO. Selfie taking-sunny ways wouldn't put himself in a situation to really be challenged.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Why are you saying it was a prepared and approved by the PM? Is that a guess or a fact? I feel like you just completely make shit up about Trudeau because you generally dislike him. The things you say about him really don't seem grounded in reality. They more seem like generic catch phrases from the list of catch phrases used for politicians one doesn't like.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Who cares whether Trudeau was there. The hip read a prepared statement that was approved by the PMO. Selfie taking-sunny ways wouldn't put himself in a situation to really be challenged.
Likely a courtesy on the part of Gord: "Hey... We were planning on saying this... What do you think?"
Everyone has a right to discuss their political opinions, but I think there's a better place. This is kinda taking away from what was a very enjoyable thread. Just sayin
Everyone has a right to discuss their political opinions, but I think there's a better place. This is kinda taking away from what was a very enjoyable thread. Just sayin
a review of the last show in kingston will follow but as i reviewed(and went to) all the other ontario shows here's the ottawa one
2nd last of the 7 ontario shows for me this was a stubhub ticket bought @ 3 times face value with no complaints we got in early. the line ups for merch and beer etc have all been bad on this tour people in my section were great+ upper level row a with lots of people standing up no tears at this show no major surprises on the setlist which was a first for the ontario shows still LOVE their mixing up of the opening and closing songs etc etc wheat kings and gus are the 2 highlights for me gord doing some painting with his pretend palette of paint and pretend canvas always a kick to watch
2016-08-18 - Ottawa Ontario 01 Boots Or Hearts 02 Blow At High Dough 03 Opiated 04 New Orleans Is Sinking 05 In A World Possessed By The Human Mind 06 Ocean Next 07 What Blue 08 Machine 09 Summer's Killing Us 10 Gus: The Polar Bear From Central Park 11 If New Orleans Is Beat 12 It Can't Be Nashville Every Night 13 Greasy Jungle 14 Nautical Disaster 15 So Hard Done By 16 Grace, Too 17 Gift Shop 18 Flamenco 19 Springtime In Vienna 20 Ahead By A Century - 21 Courage 22 Wheat Kings 23 At The Hundredth Meridian - 24 Bobcaygeon 25 Poets
Happily for me, Comcast carries CBC / CBUT as part of my cable package. It made watching the Olympics more enjoyable, and also game me the opportunity to catch this show. When I turned it on, my wife had only heard of The Hip, but didn't really know their music. I explained the circumstances of the tour and this particular show, and she was game to check it out. About half way into the show she couldn't look away. She was hooked. That was one of the most intense and emotional concerts I've ever seen. I forgot PJ was even playing that night, and didn't give it two thoughts. I was completely captivated. Talk about a range of emotions, from joy to sadness. Really glad I had the chance to experience it. Kudos to the CBC for broadcasting the show commercial free. I just can't imagine one of our national networks doing that.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Happily for me, Comcast carries CBC / CBUT as part of my cable package. It made watching the Olympics more enjoyable, and also game me the opportunity to catch this show. When I turned it on, my wife had only heard of The Hip, but didn't really know their music. I explained the circumstances of the tour and this particular show, and she was game to check it out. About half way into the show she couldn't look away. She was hooked. That was one of the most intense and emotional concerts I've ever seen. I forgot PJ was even playing that night, and didn't give it two thoughts. I was completely captivated. Talk about a range of emotions, from joy to sadness. Really glad I had the chance to experience it. Kudos to the CBC for broadcasting the show commercial free. I just can't imagine one of our national networks doing that.
Good stuff Jeff. My wife wasn't into The Hip until she met me and I got her hooked.
She was also in and out of the room as I watched the final show....and eventually settled into it with a beer in hand after the first 5 or 6 songs.
My son who is almost 2 got to watch the first 10 songs or so, which is pretty special because he gets to watch almost no tv. We danced together for a song or two. Always assumed I would be able to take him to a Hip show once he got older so I was a little teary eyed that I got to share a few live songs with him....he will have no memory of it, but I will.
Hopefully in 10 years or so I can drag his ass to a PJ show!
Happily for me, Comcast carries CBC / CBUT as part of my cable package. It made watching the Olympics more enjoyable, and also game me the opportunity to catch this show. When I turned it on, my wife had only heard of The Hip, but didn't really know their music. I explained the circumstances of the tour and this particular show, and she was game to check it out. About half way into the show she couldn't look away. She was hooked. That was one of the most intense and emotional concerts I've ever seen. I forgot PJ was even playing that night, and didn't give it two thoughts. I was completely captivated. Talk about a range of emotions, from joy to sadness. Really glad I had the chance to experience it. Kudos to the CBC for broadcasting the show commercial free. I just can't imagine one of our national networks doing that.
Good stuff Jeff. My wife wasn't into The Hip until she met me and I got her hooked.
She was also in and out of the room as I watched the final show....and eventually settled into it with a beer in hand after the first 5 or 6 songs.
My son who is almost 2 got to watch the first 10 songs or so, which is pretty special because he gets to watch almost no tv. We danced together for a song or two. Always assumed I would be able to take him to a Hip show once he got older so I was a little teary eyed that I got to share a few live songs with him....he will have no memory of it, but I will.
Hopefully in 10 years or so I can drag his ass to a PJ show!
That's great! While your son may not remember it, I'm sure it is planting seeds. He should be the perfect tour buddy in 10 years for PJ's first of many farewell tours!
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Just getting around to listening to the Kingston show and wow. Unreal.
And the video of Gord during Grace, Too. I don't even know how to comment on that.
Some have a lot to say about it, lol, because there appears to be a debate going on about whether that was ALL 100% "real" or if it was at least part performance art. I actually think it was partly performance art myself. Of course all good art has some reality to it and feeling behind it, but that extreme overwrought thing he had going on? I think that was largely Gord being his wonderfully weird self doing a performance of extremely overwrought emotions as a way to artistically express his very real emotions. Doing that is right up Gord's alley, and I think much more likely than that just being a completely bare true expression of his feelings. And I am saying this in admiration btw. I absolutely love that Gord can and will do stuff like that. It's one of the things that makes him great.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Just getting around to listening to the Kingston show and wow. Unreal.
And the video of Gord during Grace, Too. I don't even know how to comment on that.
Some have a lot to say about it, lol, because there appears to be a debate going on about whether that was ALL 100% "real" or if it was at least part performance art. I actually think it was partly performance art myself. Of course all good art has some reality to it and feeling behind it, but that extreme overwrought thing he had going on? I think that was largely Gord being his wonderfully weird self doing a performance of extremely overwrought emotions as a way to artistically express his very real emotions. Doing that is right up Gord's alley, and I think much more likely than that just being a completely bare true expression of his feelings. And I am saying this in admiration btw. I absolutely love that Gord can and will do stuff like that. It's one of the things that makes him great.
Thanks for input. I haven't been big enough of a fan (my fault) to know the true answer but either way it gave me chills.
Just getting around to listening to the Kingston show and wow. Unreal.
And the video of Gord during Grace, Too. I don't even know how to comment on that.
Some have a lot to say about it, lol, because there appears to be a debate going on about whether that was ALL 100% "real" or if it was at least part performance art. I actually think it was partly performance art myself. Of course all good art has some reality to it and feeling behind it, but that extreme overwrought thing he had going on? I think that was largely Gord being his wonderfully weird self doing a performance of extremely overwrought emotions as a way to artistically express his very real emotions. Doing that is right up Gord's alley, and I think much more likely than that just being a completely bare true expression of his feelings. And I am saying this in admiration btw. I absolutely love that Gord can and will do stuff like that. It's one of the things that makes him great.
agreed. he's always made that song(especially) an over the top live performance. i can't see gord performing it any other way. the song wouldn't have the same power/meaning if he just casually sang it. what comes through the most for me, with this nugget on this recent tour, is his intense passion in the delivery of it i've seen grace a whack of times on many other tours but nothing compares to the versions on this tour. imo
Just getting around to listening to the Kingston show and wow. Unreal.
And the video of Gord during Grace, Too. I don't even know how to comment on that.
Some have a lot to say about it, lol, because there appears to be a debate going on about whether that was ALL 100% "real" or if it was at least part performance art. I actually think it was partly performance art myself. Of course all good art has some reality to it and feeling behind it, but that extreme overwrought thing he had going on? I think that was largely Gord being his wonderfully weird self doing a performance of extremely overwrought emotions as a way to artistically express his very real emotions. Doing that is right up Gord's alley, and I think much more likely than that just being a completely bare true expression of his feelings. And I am saying this in admiration btw. I absolutely love that Gord can and will do stuff like that. It's one of the things that makes him great.
Agree 100%
whenever I talk to someone about the show they often bring up that moment and I hold back because I feel like I'm bursting their bubble. But I truly feel Gord is expressing the emotions of the girl in the song, not his own. Either way it was very powerful.
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Respect for this post.
I'm watching it again right now. Hard not to be emotional. I blundered with the pvr. I shoulda recorded half hour past the scheduled end time. Missed the last tune.
If Harper had received an invite... he woulda said, "Hrumph. I will not be going to any... hip hop concert" while sitting in his smoking chair!
Kidding.
Sorta.
Thanks for the post above that one, sorry about your pvr, there was a link in another thread (on the porch) with the audio of the show. I'll be giving it a listen while going back and forth to appointments tomorrow, lol.
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
Somebody on here commented about how old he looks now, and I thought that when then started this tour. Chemo and other things will do that to you.
Missed the CBC show due to circumstances beyond my control. But have been catching up with it on youtube and having a personal party this weekend with a PVR.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Btw, I read an ar5icle that listed some of what's on Trudeau's personal music Playlist like in iTunes or whatever he uses, and he has some pretty fine taste in music.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I feel like you just completely make shit up about Trudeau because you generally dislike him. The things you say about him really don't seem grounded in reality. They more seem like generic catch phrases from the list of catch phrases used for politicians one doesn't like.
To which, "No problem" was the answer.
2nd last of the 7 ontario shows for me
this was a stubhub ticket bought @ 3 times face value with no complaints
we got in early. the line ups for merch and beer etc have all been bad on this tour
people in my section were great+ upper level row a with lots of people standing up
no tears at this show
no major surprises on the setlist which was a first for the ontario shows
still LOVE their mixing up of the opening and closing songs etc etc
wheat kings and gus are the 2 highlights for me
gord doing some painting with his pretend palette of paint and pretend canvas always a kick to watch
2016-08-18 - Ottawa Ontario
01 Boots Or Hearts
02 Blow At High Dough
03 Opiated
04 New Orleans Is Sinking
05 In A World Possessed By The Human Mind
06 Ocean Next
07 What Blue
08 Machine
09 Summer's Killing Us
10 Gus: The Polar Bear From Central Park
11 If New Orleans Is Beat
12 It Can't Be Nashville Every Night
13 Greasy Jungle
14 Nautical Disaster
15 So Hard Done By
16 Grace, Too
17 Gift Shop
18 Flamenco
19 Springtime In Vienna
20 Ahead By A Century
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21 Courage
22 Wheat Kings
23 At The Hundredth Meridian
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24 Bobcaygeon
25 Poets
She was also in and out of the room as I watched the final show....and eventually settled into it with a beer in hand after the first 5 or 6 songs.
My son who is almost 2 got to watch the first 10 songs or so, which is pretty special because he gets to watch almost no tv. We danced together for a song or two. Always assumed I would be able to take him to a Hip show once he got older so I was a little teary eyed that I got to share a few live songs with him....he will have no memory of it, but I will.
Hopefully in 10 years or so I can drag his ass to a PJ show!
And the video of Gord during Grace, Too. I don't even know how to comment on that.
what comes through the most for me, with this nugget on this recent tour, is his intense passion in the delivery of it
i've seen grace a whack of times on many other tours but nothing compares to the versions on this tour. imo
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-august-24-2016-1.3733551/site-c-dam-project-betrays-trudeau-s-commitment-to-first-nations-say-critics-1.3733566
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
whenever I talk to someone about the show they often bring up that moment and I hold back because I feel like I'm bursting their bubble. But I truly feel Gord is expressing the emotions of the girl in the song, not his own. Either way it was very powerful.