The Alt-Left

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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 14,175
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    I thought AINTFA was the alt-left?
    Could be, though I thought "AINTFA" stands for "Ain't we fuckin' awful". 

    I'm not opposed to radical notions or protest groups in general or sabotage or civil disobedience, etc., but when I think about a group like Antifa that practices extreme hate and violence... well, then I think of John Lennon's words:

    But when you talk about destruction
    Don't you know that you can count me out

    I'm not down with Antifa either, but it does seem like we have a few here on this board....no names.  And John Lennon was a wife beater, so maybe his words are a bit hypocritical?
    Sadly, I have heard that about Lennon.  I was thinking about the song more than the man. 

    Whoa, you really think there are Antifa members here?  I would hope not. 

    I was thinking about the words "sabotage" and "terrorism" recently while reading Jon Krakauer's Into the Wild .  As much as I'm a Krakauer fan, there's point in that  book at which (I should have noted where) where Jon makes an EGREGIOUS error by referring to Edward Abbey's The Monkey Wrench Gang being a book about a gang of "eco-terrorists".  NO, GODDAMN IT JON, THEY ARE  NOT TERRORISTS, THEY ARE SABOTEURS!  Abbey knew the difference and there is a major difference between the two.  Saboteurs do damage to, or destroy property.  Terrorists do harm to, or kill people.  BIG DIFFERENCE! 

    Most Antifa are not saboteurs, they are terrorists.
    Has antifa killed anyone? And I don’t support antifa.
     
    I’m not even sure how well organized it is. But now the right wingers who hate liberals label any counter demonstrators to white sumpremacist rallies as antifa. Which is a crafty manipulation by the right where they end up supporting white supremacists by validating their message. 

    Is that much different than the rhetoric of labeling anyone who is choosing to continue their support of conservatives as a racist, Nazi loving white supremacist? 
    Is this happening?

    BS comes on here in support of Trump and 'general' right wing ideology, but I don't think he's been painted as a racist or nazi as far as I can remember?

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,698
    tbergs said:
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    I thought AINTFA was the alt-left?
    Could be, though I thought "AINTFA" stands for "Ain't we fuckin' awful". 

    I'm not opposed to radical notions or protest groups in general or sabotage or civil disobedience, etc., but when I think about a group like Antifa that practices extreme hate and violence... well, then I think of John Lennon's words:

    But when you talk about destruction
    Don't you know that you can count me out

    I'm not down with Antifa either, but it does seem like we have a few here on this board....no names.  And John Lennon was a wife beater, so maybe his words are a bit hypocritical?
    Sadly, I have heard that about Lennon.  I was thinking about the song more than the man. 

    Whoa, you really think there are Antifa members here?  I would hope not. 

    I was thinking about the words "sabotage" and "terrorism" recently while reading Jon Krakauer's Into the Wild .  As much as I'm a Krakauer fan, there's point in that  book at which (I should have noted where) where Jon makes an EGREGIOUS error by referring to Edward Abbey's The Monkey Wrench Gang being a book about a gang of "eco-terrorists".  NO, GODDAMN IT JON, THEY ARE  NOT TERRORISTS, THEY ARE SABOTEURS!  Abbey knew the difference and there is a major difference between the two.  Saboteurs do damage to, or destroy property.  Terrorists do harm to, or kill people.  BIG DIFFERENCE! 

    Most Antifa are not saboteurs, they are terrorists.
    Has antifa killed anyone? And I don’t support antifa.
     
    I’m not even sure how well organized it is. But now the right wingers who hate liberals label any counter demonstrators to white sumpremacist rallies as antifa. Which is a crafty manipulation by the right where they end up supporting white supremacists by validating their message. 

    Is that much different than the rhetoric of labeling anyone who is choosing to continue their support of conservatives as a racist, Nazi loving white supremacist? 
    It’s a lot different. There is no representative of ‘antifa’ in a significant position of leadership formulating laws and policy. You do have self-proclaimed nazis and white supremacists running for office, though. We had Steve Bannon in the white house who had the goal of infiltrating an alt-right message on the back of liberal hate and he has been successful. Slimeball Stephen Miller is still there, creating policy to stir racist sentiment. 

    have you heard a peep from republicans about this? I haven’t. If we need evidence of racism integrated into politics, we’ll look at how many votes the nazis receive this fall. 

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 7,592
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 23,690
    There's so much truth in this it leads me to wonder why everyone doesn't at least think like a liberal (I don't like labels, but I know which way I think!)

    And yes, OK, I don't mind being called a liberal!
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,299
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    Add 'traitor' to that list.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,299
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    I thought AINTFA was the alt-left?
    Could be, though I thought "AINTFA" stands for "Ain't we fuckin' awful". 

    I'm not opposed to radical notions or protest groups in general or sabotage or civil disobedience, etc., but when I think about a group like Antifa that practices extreme hate and violence... well, then I think of John Lennon's words:

    But when you talk about destruction
    Don't you know that you can count me out

    I'm not down with Antifa either, but it does seem like we have a few here on this board....no names.  And John Lennon was a wife beater, so maybe his words are a bit hypocritical?
    Sadly, I have heard that about Lennon.  I was thinking about the song more than the man. 

    Whoa, you really think there are Antifa members here?  I would hope not. 

    I was thinking about the words "sabotage" and "terrorism" recently while reading Jon Krakauer's Into the Wild .  As much as I'm a Krakauer fan, there's point in that  book at which (I should have noted where) where Jon makes an EGREGIOUS error by referring to Edward Abbey's The Monkey Wrench Gang being a book about a gang of "eco-terrorists".  NO, GODDAMN IT JON, THEY ARE  NOT TERRORISTS, THEY ARE SABOTEURS!  Abbey knew the difference and there is a major difference between the two.  Saboteurs do damage to, or destroy property.  Terrorists do harm to, or kill people.  BIG DIFFERENCE! 

    Most Antifa are not saboteurs, they are terrorists.
    Has antifa killed anyone? And I don’t support antifa.
     
    I’m not even sure how well organized it is. But now the right wingers who hate liberals label any counter demonstrators to white sumpremacist rallies as antifa. Which is a crafty manipulation by the right where they end up supporting white supremacists by validating their message. 

    Meh, I get called Antifa online by the far right for opposing their racism.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 11,047
    Not heard the term. Racist, rightwingers trying to make the term happen to remove the POS-cloud hanging over themselves and their own racist opinions?
    Basically.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 14,460
    Antifa stands for Anti-fascist, correct?

    They are terrorists?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 23,690
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,698
    my2hands said:
    Antifa stands for Anti-fascist, correct?

    They are terrorists?
    That’s what it stands for. Due to the habitul whattaboutism from trump supporters when he’s criticized, violence that broke out during counter demonstarations (which has always happened) was pinned on antifa. Therefore antifa = neo-nazis (an actual domestic terrorist group). Apparently antifa is now more of a threat than white supremacists. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 7,592
    my2hands said:
    Antifa stands for Anti-fascist, correct?

    They are terrorists?
    That’s what it stands for. Due to the habitul whattaboutism from trump supporters when he’s criticized, violence that broke out during counter demonstarations (which has always happened) was pinned on antifa. Therefore antifa = neo-nazis (an actual domestic terrorist group). Apparently antifa is now more of a threat than white supremacists. 

    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NYPosts: 1,284
    I agree that a group called Antifa doesn't fucking exist! I'd say that just about every rational person at least since Nazi Germany is 'Antifa' in that we all should be against fascism. 

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,955
    brianlux said:
    It's an attempt add to the derogatory terms used to troll liberals, terms such as:

    Commie
    Pinko
    Left Wingnut
    Libtard
    Snowflakes
    Cuck
    PC
    Regressive Leftie
    SJW
    Tumblrina


    You forgot....

    Reds
    Socialists
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,955
    To republicans  this is an example of "alt-left".....


  • dignindignin Posts: 6,152
    I'm anti-fascist. Does that make me a proud member of the alt-left?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 23,690
    dignin said:
    I'm anti-fascist. Does that make me a proud member of the alt-left?
    Good point. 
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,664
    dignin said:
    I'm anti-fascist. Does that make me a proud member of the alt-left?
    it doesn't.  But the Antifa are real.  stupid, but real.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 12,853
    dignin said:
    I'm anti-fascist. Does that make me a proud member of the alt-left?
    Only if you like dressing up and causing chaos and non-civil disobedience.  

    It's a group that is doing everything they stand against when they go to tearing shit up but it is against Trump supporters whom they say are the actual fascists...
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 12,299
    I believe ANTIFA are those that use extreme violence towards fascists???
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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