Sexual Misconduct in Politics

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 29,028
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    yup....
    Sens. Claire McCaskill, Maggie Hassan, Kirsten Gillibrand, Patty Murray, Mazie K. Hirono, Kamala Harris, Debbie Stabenow and Tammy Baldwin all called for Franken to step down. 


    Franken should register as a Republican, apparently sexual misconduct gets a free pass if there is an 'R' next to your name.
    I think it has more to do with the photo and admitting it. The alleged yearbook signature didn't have much weight.
    Sexual misconduct is but by partisan and should never be politicized.
    Tell that to the president. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 37,932
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
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    "Conyers must go" (likely: multiple sealed harassment deals)
    "Franken should stay!" (likely: serial groper)

    Lauer likes pinching Curics ass and watching Vieira bend over so he can perv the down blouse.
    Where is Nancy O'dell?
    but but you forgot numero 1 sexual predator that is president or are you of the thought he didn't do any of it ? 
    trump is a 70 year old male, chances are he sexually harassed someone in his lifetime.

    I'm changing my gropey Al estimate to a few days.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/al-franken-accusation-sexual-harassment-2006-281049

    what's with men force kissing women? so bizarre.
    so all males harass a woman/women eventually is what you're saying here?
    no...re-read it...I'm saying it's a good chance most 70 year old males with similar lifestyle as trump sexually harassed someone in their life.
    Opportunities and money to buy.
    Most people that live a normal life see it or experience it.

    I'd venture to guess 9 of 10 all women in US at one point experienced sexual harassment.

    It's a big problem and I'm glad it's being addressed.
    your original statement was this: trump is a 70 year old male, chances are he sexually harassed someone in his lifetime.

    you mentioned nothing about "males with a similar lifestyle". 

    even with that, I don't buy it. being rich/famous/etc doesn't automatically make you an asshole. 
    Agreed. I thought that comment was quite strange.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,177
    edited December 6
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 16,771
    Franken should have used Trump's strategy.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    Jason P said:
    Franken should have used Trump's strategy.  
    it's a little difficult to switch your entire voting base to morally bankrupt cowards. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 6,573
    I think Franken should resign but I do think it is interesting to compare his accusers with tRump's.  
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 17,211
    I don't get the difference from one accused to the other in my mind they are all in the same boat , all of them should be expelled from office including the biggest sexual predator of'em all the one & only Orange bafoon ..
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,101
    edited December 6
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    "Conyers must go" (likely: multiple sealed harassment deals)
    "Franken should stay!" (likely: serial groper)

    Lauer likes pinching Curics ass and watching Vieira bend over so he can perv the down blouse.
    Where is Nancy O'dell?
    but but you forgot numero 1 sexual predator that is president or are you of the thought he didn't do any of it ? 
    trump is a 70 year old male, chances are he sexually harassed someone in his lifetime.

    I'm changing my gropey Al estimate to a few days.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/al-franken-accusation-sexual-harassment-2006-281049

    what's with men force kissing women? so bizarre.
    trump admits to sexual assault and has multiple people accusing him of a range of sex crimes, and you think “chances are” he sexually harassed someone? Okay. 
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,265
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    yup....
    Sens. Claire McCaskill, Maggie Hassan, Kirsten Gillibrand, Patty Murray, Mazie K. Hirono, Kamala Harris, Debbie Stabenow and Tammy Baldwin all called for Franken to step down. 


    Franken should register as a Republican, apparently sexual misconduct gets a free pass if there is an 'R' next to your name.
    I think it has more to do with the photo and admitting it. The alleged yearbook signature didn't have much weight.
    Sexual misconduct is but by partisan and should never be politicized.

    How so?  It matches his current signature.

    And there was a 2nd accuser from the same time period with a whole scrap book of goodies, including a xmas card with another matching signature.

    And their stories were corroborated.  

    Meanwhile, Moore has changed his story numerous times.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 10,082
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    yup....
    Sens. Claire McCaskill, Maggie Hassan, Kirsten Gillibrand, Patty Murray, Mazie K. Hirono, Kamala Harris, Debbie Stabenow and Tammy Baldwin all called for Franken to step down. 


    Franken should register as a Republican, apparently sexual misconduct gets a free pass if there is an 'R' next to your name.
    I think it has more to do with the photo and admitting it. The alleged yearbook signature didn't have much weight.
    Sexual misconduct is but by partisan and should never be politicized.

    How so?  It matches his current signature.

    And there was a 2nd accuser from the same time period with a whole scrap book of goodies, including a xmas card with another matching signature.

    And their stories were corroborated.  

    Meanwhile, Moore has changed his story numerous times.  
    I’m sure there’s an explanation in Podesta’s emails.
     
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,780
    referencing Sandra Levy will get you every time!

    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,265
    JC29856 said:
    referencing Sandra Levy will get you every time!

    Is that the Russian spelling of Chandra? 

    You pulled that so far out of your ass there's a nose hair on it. 

    I'll see your Chandra Levy and raise you Klarens Tomas. 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,780
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    referencing Sandra Levy will get you every time!

    Is that the Russian spelling of Chandra? 

    You pulled that so far out of your ass there's a nose hair on it. 

    I'll see your Chandra Levy and raise you Klarens Tomas. 
    u funnee!
    who is next on the chopping block? politician, actor, news anchor, sports guy?
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OHPosts: 1,834
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    referencing Sandra Levy will get you every time!

    Is that the Russian spelling of Chandra? 

    You pulled that so far out of your ass there's a nose hair on it. 

    I'll see your Chandra Levy and raise you Klarens Tomas. 
    u funnee!
    who is next on the chopping block? politician, actor, news anchor, sports guy?
    Sports guy it is.  The one and only Warren Moon.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21694844/warren-moon-sued-sexual-harassment-sports-marketing-firm-assistant
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,780
    KC138045 said:
    JC29856 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    referencing Sandra Levy will get you every time!

    Is that the Russian spelling of Chandra? 

    You pulled that so far out of your ass there's a nose hair on it. 

    I'll see your Chandra Levy and raise you Klarens Tomas. 
    u funnee!
    who is next on the chopping block? politician, actor, news anchor, sports guy?
    Sports guy it is.  The one and only Warren Moon.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21694844/warren-moon-sued-sexual-harassment-sports-marketing-firm-assistant
    small fry...maybe Mike Tirico
    what happens first?
    A. politician sexual misconduct allegation
    B. terror attack on US soil
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    so I was on twitter last night. I follow Alyssa Milano. She tweeted once again about Me Too and Al Franken and Roy Moore. Someone responded to her tweet, "I love you Alyssa, but in the name of fairness, I remember when you flashed your breasts to a crew member of Charmed for his birthday. Did you get permission to do so? Or did you just decide to do it? Think about it. Where's your apology? Yes: YOU, TOO!". 

    the responses were predictable. 

    "a film crew is like a family, it was a friendly, cheeky gesture"
    "did anyone complain? seriously? I'd love that as a birthday present!"
    "was anyone offended?"
    "I don't think a brief incident like that in any way diminishes the powerful stance she consistently takes for good causes"
    "women don't rape with their breasts"

    so it's ok because men are pigs and enjoy nudity from women who are attractive (what about all the other crew members who were forced to witness this?). it only applies to creepy old unattractive men. 

    Thoughts?

  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,053
    edited December 7
    I just saw them commend the Democrats and Al Franken on FOX (Republican) news, for stepping up and having Franken resign.  While I'm sad to see him go, I think this is another case of the Democrats doing the right thing and setting a good example.  Franken's case seems less more severe than Roy Moore or Trump's in violating women with words and actions, but I am glad to see Franken setting an example.  Good for him!  Way to make progress in this crazy world.  Now, if the Republicans could just follow suit and not sweep everything under the rug like they do, maybe Trump would realize that it is time to bow out.   I still think he deserves a Christmas in the White House though.   The man did use much of his own money for that campaign, while some of his Republican counterparts stood by and said, "Well, yeah he's obnoxious and stubborn, but he's using his own money, time and energy to get our Republicans elected.  We'll figure out how to get rid of him later.  For now get the vote."   I've watched so many conservatives like that in my life use people and talk so much shit about them behind their backs, so that part of me feels for Trump.  But he has said a lot of crazy shit this year.   I hope he does the right thing and resigns after the new year.  It seems it would be the less messy way to go, in my opinion.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,177
    Franken to resign. Trump to remain in office. Moore to be elected.
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 1,854
    "I am leaving while a man bragged on tape about his history of the sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/al-franken-latest/index.html
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,780
    JimmyV said:
    Franken to resign. Trump to remain in office. Moore to be elected.
    likely. so what is it that Franken takes the sword and Menendez gets hardly a mention?
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 11,177
    "I am leaving while a man bragged on tape about his history of the sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/al-franken-latest/index.html
    Yep.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    people I've seen talking about Franken are right: "when they go low, and we go high, we still lose, so why do we continue to go high?". 

    it sucks to have to lower yourself, but if that's the only way to play the game on a level field, what else are you supposed to do?
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,265
    JimmyV said:
    Franken to resign. Trump to remain in office. Moore to be elected.
    Day 1 - hit Moore with Ethics Investigation
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  • pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,053
    edited December 7
    "I am leaving while a man bragged on tape about his history of the sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/al-franken-latest/index.html
    I have so much respect for Franken.   He's being accused of some stuff that probably many people in Hollywood and politics could easily be found guilty of as well if they were running for office.  A man that probably has this as the only dirt they could ever dig up in his life, yet he still resigns for having a moral compass and setting a good example to the country.   I hope his next job is one he loves.   I would imagine SNL is praising him right now but sad that we're losing a Democrat.  
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,780
    people I've seen talking about Franken are right: "when they go low, and we go high, we still lose, so why do we continue to go high?". 

    it sucks to have to lower yourself, but if that's the only way to play the game on a level field, what else are you supposed to do?
    answer: have 5 to 10 accusers waiting in the wings to trot out tomorrow.

    Unfortunately, the democrats will forever have a Arkansas Bill problem. They can force Conyers and Franken to resign but they will never be able to claim purity during this.
    Hilliary being appointed the nomination certainly didn't help the cause.

    Trump this Trump that, it's been 14 months since the real P tape and people are still clinging to hope that it might dump Trump.
    signs of desperation are the news reports from "sources" claiming trump now denies its him on the tape after he already admitted it last year and chalked it up as locker room talk.

    Unseal the secret deals.
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,780
    "I am leaving while a man bragged on tape about his history of the sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/al-franken-latest/index.html
    I have so much respect for Franken.   He's being accused of some stuff that probably many people in Hollywood and politics could easily be found guilty of as well if they were running for office.  A man that probably has this as the only dirt they could ever dig up in his life, yet he still resigns for having a moral compass and setting a good example to the country.   I hope his next job is one he loves.   I would imagine SNL is praising him right now but sad that we're losing a Democrat.  
    You think it's moral compass that lead Franken to resign today? moral compass
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,265
    "I am leaving while a man bragged on tape about his history of the sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/al-franken-latest/index.html
    I have so much respect for Franken.   He's being accused of some stuff that probably many people in Hollywood and politics could easily be found guilty of as well if they were running for office.  A man that probably has this as the only dirt they could ever dig up in his life, yet he still resigns for having a moral compass and setting a good example to the country.   I hope his next job is one he loves.   I would imagine SNL is praising him right now but sad that we're losing a Democrat.  

    Not for nothing, but these allegations seem scurrilous at best. If I read correctly, 2 of the ladies accused Franken of putting his hand on their waist and squeezing during a photo op at the State Fair, which was likely in front of a huge group of people. Reeks of a hit job and now Rs smell blood in the water.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    CM189191 said:
    "I am leaving while a man bragged on tape about his history of the sexual assault sits in the Oval Office and a man who repeatedly preyed on young girls campaigns for the Senate with the full support of his party. But this decision is not about me. It’s about the people of Minnesota," Franken said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politics/al-franken-latest/index.html
    I have so much respect for Franken.   He's being accused of some stuff that probably many people in Hollywood and politics could easily be found guilty of as well if they were running for office.  A man that probably has this as the only dirt they could ever dig up in his life, yet he still resigns for having a moral compass and setting a good example to the country.   I hope his next job is one he loves.   I would imagine SNL is praising him right now but sad that we're losing a Democrat.  

    Not for nothing, but these allegations seem scurrilous at best. If I read correctly, 2 of the ladies accused Franken of putting his hand on their waist and squeezing during a photo op at the State Fair, which was likely in front of a huge group of people. Reeks of a hit job and now Rs smell blood in the water.
    yeah, I gather he's falling on his sword so as to not add to a democratic distraction. 
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 10,152
    "I will be resigning in the coming weeks."

    So on the day he actually resigns, analog 10 Club members should receive their 2016 annual singles and Deep.

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    Kinda like "impending".
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