U.S. Drops Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb in Afghanistan targeting ISIS

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,568
    rgambs said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

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    rgambs said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

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    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    it really is easy to be a monday morning quarterback huh?
    You are severely underestimating analysts and experts who could, and did, predict these results from the end of WWII onward.
    so you cite analysts and experts but can't name any? If I said a statement like that i'd have at least three sources to back it up.
    You can hang your hat on my lack of sources if you want, but the obvious will remain obvious.
    The folks who make careers in military geopolitics have been seeing supported rebel factions turning on us throughout conflicts across the world.
    don't cite authors and evidence if you don't have any. your credibility is now shot.
    I didn't cite anything, I alluded.
    I'm not concerned too much about my credibility rating around here, everyone has their issues. Unless I have you mixed up with another poster, I have been disturbed by your obsession with war and glorifying it, and wonder what impact that has on your history students. That doesn't mean I discount everything you say because I don't trust your credibility, it just means that in issues of the US going to war I assume you may or may not have patriotic bias.
    I 'm definitely not glorifying war. War sucks.
    I must have you confused with the poster who eagerly jumps into anything related to WW2 and who collects WW2 weapons.
    I do collect ww2 weapons and my favorite era of history is ww2. I still don't want war. Shit, I hate war so much I thought of moving to dirty's house! lol
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,902
    edited April 17
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    it really is easy to be a monday morning quarterback huh?
    you say it's hindsight, I say it's lack of foresight at best, intentional negliegence as a means to an end at worst.
    I'm sure if you wanted to go back in history you could find a ton of examples of rulers and states aligning with people that bite them in the ass,I hope you're not serious about inferring no one could see it coming. The enemy of my enemy and all that. A cursory knowledge of Iran, Iraq, and the Kurds provides several examples of the problems that occur when supporting dictators (or insurgents) against the will of the people - and as gambs mentioned, this began in the 50's. That is just one dispute.
    The US was the main founder (via Pakistan) of militant Wahhabism. They nurtured it to achieve their goals in Afghanistan. A bi-partisan effort (as always as pertains to foreign policy), by the Carter and Regan admins. Im sure you're aware of Zbigniew Brzezinski's admissions on the topic.

    What did they expect when they cultivate hate based on religion, then send their troops to the holy land of the hateful soldiers they created? Bin Laden wrote several letters to his CIA handlers telling them there would be consequences for this if they didn't pull out. His supposed admission videos mention it expressly. The US was training for plane hijack attacks. You can't say 9/11 and al Qaeda/mujahideen turning on the US was a surprise to anyone with a passing interest in history (though I know nationalism clouds the memory in the United States of amnesia).
    And if you are the type who connects dots through history to the present, it is easy to see that this same movement is still allied with US interests, and pursuing common goals.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,881
    brianlux said:

    Bombing the shit out of people does not change their outlook. If anything, it strengthens their resolve. Let's stop being so naive.

    This. USA just keeps creating more
  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 2,881

    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    by the way...where are these analysts from 1945 who predicted the future?

    I don't know their names, the CIA holds it's cards pretty close. It's pretty hard to imagine the CIA's Iran coup in 1953 was a spur of the moment decision, and even harder to imagine that it wasn't expressly the goal to destabilise.
    Pretty much everything that has happened since is more of the same old same.
    Even if the Mujahedeen turning on us wasn't an obvious possibility, perhaps we should have learned our lesson before propping up and then toppling Saddam, Bin Laden, and ISIS.
    It's​ only Monday morning quarterbacking if you weren't on the field on Sunday.
    from 1953 to 1979 iran remains an ally to the united states. so the united states government is supposed to know 26 years later that the iranian government would be over thrown and eventually take u.s. citizens hostages?
    the us staged that coup during the cold war just like we sent aid to the afghan rebels fighting the soviet union in the late 70's during the cold war. our main fight during this time was the soviet union...no way we can predict 20 years down the line when we are worrying about communism. that's like saying gulf of tonkin is the reason for the cambodian gonocide.
    After overthrowing a democratically elected nationalist president of the people in that he was one of them, who wanted Iranian oil revenue to go to the people and not international corporations and installing the shah, who was from the wealthy elite class and not only allowed the wealth of the nation to flow out, enriched himself and his cronies, but killed and tortured all manner of opponents. Some ally. You make it sound as if Iran was similar to post war France and Germany. That experience alone should have widened us to Afghanistan, the grave yard of empires, which in turn, should have wisened us up to Iraq. But some folks never learn nor care to understand history.
    Amazing isn't it?

    Of course there was nobody who saw this coming.

    Right?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120

    ..... no chicken tonight in my coffee, no chicken tonight in my tea....

    OH MY EFFING GOD I WILL NOW NEVER HEAR THAT TUNE THE SAME AGAIN. and I was just listening to the Guess Who over the weekend.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 3,038
    edited April 25
    Starting to wonder what kind of effect this bombing really had. Where did those fictional body count numbers come from and now the military isn't interested in accurate numbers on the? Hmm..that's a bit odd. Couple that with the deadly attack on the Afghan forces last week and it sounds like we used that MOAB to blow up an old rat maze. Nice smoke screen guys.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,998
    tbergs said:

    Starting to wonder what kind of effect this bombing really had. Where did those fictional body count numbers come from and now the military isn't interested in accurate numbers on the? Hmm..that's a bit odd. Couple that with the deadly attack on the Afghan forces last week and it sounds like we used that MOAB to blow up an old rat maze. Nice smoke screen guys.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951

    ..... no chicken tonight in my coffee, no chicken tonight in my tea....

    OH MY EFFING GOD I WILL NOW NEVER HEAR THAT TUNE THE SAME AGAIN. and I was just listening to the Guess Who over the weekend.
    we saw The Guess Who a few weeks ago...

    worst show I have ever seen, ever

    its literally a cover band at this point with the worst front man in rock history
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951
    people still haven't figured out that Terrorism is good for business?

    its the perfect boogeyman... which had to be created after the fall of the Soviet Union left us without a boogeyman in the closet... Clinton starts cutting the defense budget... USA actually balances its budget and operates on a surplus... then... wait for it... "Bin Laden determined to strike in the US"... nothing to see here... BOOM... the whole world changed on a dime and now everyone is scared and obsessed with security... civil liberties are thrown out the window... mass surveillance becomes acceptable... military & security spending explodes... Cha-Ching... and now all you need is one goofball with an AR-15, or even just a truck... its the perfect boogeyman because it keeps everyone scared, willing to hand over their rights, and willing to spend endless amounts of tax dollars on "homeland security" and the military... it allows us to operate militarily in several nations at once without anyone batting an eye... all of this while this new boogeyman actually poses ZERO risk to the United States global hegemony... its fucking brilliant... and of course to mention any of this in America you are labeled a kook or conspiracy theorist that wears a tinfoil hat...

    doesn't anyone think its suspicious that as soon as the soviet threat fades into history Al Qaeda steps up.... and then once Osama was killed and Al Qaeda fades into history ISIS comes along from thin air?

    its all bullshit... flame me all you want... its obvious if you actually care to look
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 8,720
    I don't agree with your opinion that seems to say these things are propped up. I just think a vacuum was created and somebody stepped in. There will always be an "Us" for every "them".
    hippiemom = goodness
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951

    I don't agree with your opinion that seems to say these things are propped up. I just think a vacuum was created and somebody stepped in. There will always be an "Us" for every "them".

    seems like a bunch of convenient coincidence's to me...

    history is full of false flag attacks, or attacks allowed to happen, and propped up enemies... most wars in the 20th & 21st century were started based on lies... including every single American military intervention... all bullshit... and all for profit, control of resources, and global hegemony... how many tax dollars get funneled into corporate profit? what would happen if there was no terror threat?

    we are living in the belly of the beast, and the beast is a global empire that is militarizing the planet by creating and selling its own reality to the masses... queue the patriotic song and get those flags waving for the never ending "Global War on Terror" lol
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    my2hands said:

    ..... no chicken tonight in my coffee, no chicken tonight in my tea....

    OH MY EFFING GOD I WILL NOW NEVER HEAR THAT TUNE THE SAME AGAIN. and I was just listening to the Guess Who over the weekend.
    we saw The Guess Who a few weeks ago...

    worst show I have ever seen, ever

    its literally a cover band at this point with the worst front man in rock history
    the drummer bought the rights to the name when cummings and bachman hated each other and wanted nothing to do with the band and lacked the foresight of future royalties. the drummer has bastardized the good name of the guess who and is touring with hacks and it's a complete joke.

    imagine if ringo starr toured with 3 other unknowns as the Beatles.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    my2hands said:

    people still haven't figured out that Terrorism is good for business?

    its the perfect boogeyman... which had to be created after the fall of the Soviet Union left us without a boogeyman in the closet... Clinton starts cutting the defense budget... USA actually balances its budget and operates on a surplus... then... wait for it... "Bin Laden determined to strike in the US"... nothing to see here... BOOM... the whole world changed on a dime and now everyone is scared and obsessed with security... civil liberties are thrown out the window... mass surveillance becomes acceptable... military & security spending explodes... Cha-Ching... and now all you need is one goofball with an AR-15, or even just a truck... its the perfect boogeyman because it keeps everyone scared, willing to hand over their rights, and willing to spend endless amounts of tax dollars on "homeland security" and the military... it allows us to operate militarily in several nations at once without anyone batting an eye... all of this while this new boogeyman actually poses ZERO risk to the United States global hegemony... its fucking brilliant... and of course to mention any of this in America you are labeled a kook or conspiracy theorist that wears a tinfoil hat...

    doesn't anyone think its suspicious that as soon as the soviet threat fades into history Al Qaeda steps up.... and then once Osama was killed and Al Qaeda fades into history ISIS comes along from thin air?

    its all bullshit... flame me all you want... its obvious if you actually care to look

    i think the threat is real, however it is incredibly blown up for the purposes you stated.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951

    my2hands said:

    ..... no chicken tonight in my coffee, no chicken tonight in my tea....

    OH MY EFFING GOD I WILL NOW NEVER HEAR THAT TUNE THE SAME AGAIN. and I was just listening to the Guess Who over the weekend.
    we saw The Guess Who a few weeks ago...

    worst show I have ever seen, ever

    its literally a cover band at this point with the worst front man in rock history
    the drummer bought the rights to the name when cummings and bachman hated each other and wanted nothing to do with the band and lacked the foresight of future royalties. the drummer has bastardized the good name of the guess who and is touring with hacks and it's a complete joke.

    imagine if ringo starr toured with 3 other unknowns as the Beatles.
    The drummer was from Slash's band, he looked like he was 30 years old...the only original guy on stage was the bassist
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 12,120
    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    ..... no chicken tonight in my coffee, no chicken tonight in my tea....

    OH MY EFFING GOD I WILL NOW NEVER HEAR THAT TUNE THE SAME AGAIN. and I was just listening to the Guess Who over the weekend.
    we saw The Guess Who a few weeks ago...

    worst show I have ever seen, ever

    its literally a cover band at this point with the worst front man in rock history
    the drummer bought the rights to the name when cummings and bachman hated each other and wanted nothing to do with the band and lacked the foresight of future royalties. the drummer has bastardized the good name of the guess who and is touring with hacks and it's a complete joke.

    imagine if ringo starr toured with 3 other unknowns as the Beatles.
    The drummer was from Slash's band, he looked like he was 30 years old...the only original guy on stage was the bassist
    i just looked it up, and yes, it was the bassist who snagged the rights to the name. but the drummer is also the original. maybe the other guy was subbing in? is slash's drummer the same guy who played with vince neil? if so, he's also from winnipeg.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    ..... no chicken tonight in my coffee, no chicken tonight in my tea....

    OH MY EFFING GOD I WILL NOW NEVER HEAR THAT TUNE THE SAME AGAIN. and I was just listening to the Guess Who over the weekend.
    we saw The Guess Who a few weeks ago...

    worst show I have ever seen, ever

    its literally a cover band at this point with the worst front man in rock history
    the drummer bought the rights to the name when cummings and bachman hated each other and wanted nothing to do with the band and lacked the foresight of future royalties. the drummer has bastardized the good name of the guess who and is touring with hacks and it's a complete joke.

    imagine if ringo starr toured with 3 other unknowns as the Beatles.
    The drummer was from Slash's band, he looked like he was 30 years old...the only original guy on stage was the bassist
    i just looked it up, and yes, it was the bassist who snagged the rights to the name. but the drummer is also the original. maybe the other guy was subbing in? is slash's drummer the same guy who played with vince neil? if so, he's also from winnipeg.
    Must have been a sub... the bassist mentioned he was in Slash's band... no clue who he us to be honest

    The front man was brutal

    We were disappointed
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951
    edited April 26
    By the way...

    How long ago did America invade Afghanistan? 15 years ago? How many trillions have been spent on "defense" since then? How many trillions spent in Afghanistan alone? How many bombs have been dropped in Afghanistan in 15 years?

    And I'm supposed to cheer and applaud dropping that disgusting weapon of war in Afghanistan under the guise of striking ISIS? 15 f'ING years after the initial invasion & occupation? Ridiculous

    And just to wrap this up... all of this because of 20 assholes with boxcutters operating out of caves?

    It's either all bullshit or a massive waste of money & lives either way.
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,998
    my2hands said:

    By the way...

    How long ago did America invade Afghanistan? 15 years ago? How many trillions have been spent on "defense" since then? How many trillions spent in Afghanistan alone? How many bombs have been dropped in Afghanistan in 15 years?

    And I'm supposed to cheer and applaud dropping that disgusting weapon of war in Afghanistan under the guise of striking ISIS? 15 f'ING years after the initial invasion & occupation? Ridiculous

    And just to wrap this up... all of this because of 20 assholes with boxcutters operating out of caves?

    It's either all bullshit or a massive waste of money & lives either way.

    Utterly depressing.

    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/war-costs-report-brown-university

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,097

    my2hands said:

    By the way...

    How long ago did America invade Afghanistan? 15 years ago? How many trillions have been spent on "defense" since then? How many trillions spent in Afghanistan alone? How many bombs have been dropped in Afghanistan in 15 years?

    And I'm supposed to cheer and applaud dropping that disgusting weapon of war in Afghanistan under the guise of striking ISIS? 15 f'ING years after the initial invasion & occupation? Ridiculous

    And just to wrap this up... all of this because of 20 assholes with boxcutters operating out of caves?

    It's either all bullshit or a massive waste of money & lives either way.

    Utterly depressing.

    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/war-costs-report-brown-university

    That's so fucked up. Can you imagine what good can be done with $5 trillion?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 12,951
    5... with a T... Trillion

    *waves flag*
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,123
    my2hands said:

    5... with a T... Trillion

    *waves flag*

    And how much of that went to Haliburton (dick cheney)?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 9,998

    my2hands said:

    5... with a T... Trillion

    *waves flag*

    And how much of that went to Haliburton (dick cheney)?
    https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HAL?p=HAL

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