U.S. Drops Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb in Afghanistan targeting ISIS

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    94 bad guys were killed.

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The number of militants killed in an attack by the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military has risen to 94, an Afghan official said Saturday.

    Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the provincial governor in Nangarhar, said the number of Islamic State group dead was up from the 36 reported a day earlier. A Ministry of Defense official had said Friday the number of dead could rise as officials assessed the bomb site in Achin district.

    "Fortunately there is no report of civilians being killed in the attack," Khogyani said.

    The increased death toll in Nangarhar was announced as officials in southern Helmand province reported at least 11 civilians were killed and one wounded in two roadside bomb blasts overnight.

    The U.S. attack on a tunnel complex in remote eastern Nangarhar province near the Pakistan border killed at least four IS group leaders, Khogyani said. He said a clearance operation to assess the site of the attack was continuing.

    The strike using the Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, or MOAB, was carried out Thursday against an Islamic State group tunnel complex carved into the mountains that Afghan forces had tried to assault repeatedly in recent weeks in fierce fighting in Nangarhar province.

    $170,212 per kill. U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!
    What s your point?
    That the US just spent $36 million in one stroke to accomplish what, exactly?
    Very simple: To destroy a tunnel and cave complex used by isis in a remote area of Afghanistan.
    By the way, trump didn't approve this. The us commander who decided to use MOAB had permission to do so before trump took office.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,932
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    94 bad guys were killed.

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The number of militants killed in an attack by the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military has risen to 94, an Afghan official said Saturday.

    Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the provincial governor in Nangarhar, said the number of Islamic State group dead was up from the 36 reported a day earlier. A Ministry of Defense official had said Friday the number of dead could rise as officials assessed the bomb site in Achin district.

    "Fortunately there is no report of civilians being killed in the attack," Khogyani said.

    The increased death toll in Nangarhar was announced as officials in southern Helmand province reported at least 11 civilians were killed and one wounded in two roadside bomb blasts overnight.

    The U.S. attack on a tunnel complex in remote eastern Nangarhar province near the Pakistan border killed at least four IS group leaders, Khogyani said. He said a clearance operation to assess the site of the attack was continuing.

    The strike using the Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, or MOAB, was carried out Thursday against an Islamic State group tunnel complex carved into the mountains that Afghan forces had tried to assault repeatedly in recent weeks in fierce fighting in Nangarhar province.

    $170,212 per kill. U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!
    What s your point?
    That the US just spent $36 million in one stroke to accomplish what, exactly?
    Very simple: To destroy a tunnel and cave complex used by isis in a remote area of Afghanistan.
    By the way, trump didn't approve this. The us commander who decided to use MOAB had permission to do so before trump took office.
    Okay, let me know when ISIS and the Taliban are defeated and Trump declares victory.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,736
    Supposedly over 100 dead
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,818
    unsung said:

    Supposedly over 100 dead

    And 200 new terrorists born. Woot?
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,891

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    94 bad guys were killed.

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The number of militants killed in an attack by the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military has risen to 94, an Afghan official said Saturday.

    Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the provincial governor in Nangarhar, said the number of Islamic State group dead was up from the 36 reported a day earlier. A Ministry of Defense official had said Friday the number of dead could rise as officials assessed the bomb site in Achin district.

    "Fortunately there is no report of civilians being killed in the attack," Khogyani said.

    The increased death toll in Nangarhar was announced as officials in southern Helmand province reported at least 11 civilians were killed and one wounded in two roadside bomb blasts overnight.

    The U.S. attack on a tunnel complex in remote eastern Nangarhar province near the Pakistan border killed at least four IS group leaders, Khogyani said. He said a clearance operation to assess the site of the attack was continuing.

    The strike using the Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, or MOAB, was carried out Thursday against an Islamic State group tunnel complex carved into the mountains that Afghan forces had tried to assault repeatedly in recent weeks in fierce fighting in Nangarhar province.

    $170,212 per kill. U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!
    What s your point?
    That the US just spent $36 million in one stroke to accomplish what, exactly?
    To destroy tunnels the CIA paid to build 40 years ago.
    Hopefully we can free Syria again in 40 years...
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,891
    Did anyone notice that the same day the US dropped this MOAB, they made public a nuke test in nevada, of an underground bomb that could take out North Korea's nuclear facilities?
    ...and nuke tests are what they're threatening North Korea over?
    Mother of all dry runs?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    94 bad guys were killed.

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The number of militants killed in an attack by the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military has risen to 94, an Afghan official said Saturday.

    Ataullah Khogyani, spokesman for the provincial governor in Nangarhar, said the number of Islamic State group dead was up from the 36 reported a day earlier. A Ministry of Defense official had said Friday the number of dead could rise as officials assessed the bomb site in Achin district.

    "Fortunately there is no report of civilians being killed in the attack," Khogyani said.

    The increased death toll in Nangarhar was announced as officials in southern Helmand province reported at least 11 civilians were killed and one wounded in two roadside bomb blasts overnight.

    The U.S. attack on a tunnel complex in remote eastern Nangarhar province near the Pakistan border killed at least four IS group leaders, Khogyani said. He said a clearance operation to assess the site of the attack was continuing.

    The strike using the Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, or MOAB, was carried out Thursday against an Islamic State group tunnel complex carved into the mountains that Afghan forces had tried to assault repeatedly in recent weeks in fierce fighting in Nangarhar province.

    $170,212 per kill. U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A!
    What s your point?
    That the US just spent $36 million in one stroke to accomplish what, exactly?
    To destroy tunnels the CIA paid to build 40 years ago.
    Hopefully we can free Syria again in 40 years...
    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 605
    edited April 16

    This seems like a pretty pretty remote area. If this were dropped on a cave/tunnel complex with no civilian causalities, what is the issue? Big if...

    Yeah 92 ISIS members dead, no civilian casualties. Can anyone call a win a win? Or no matter what Trump is a bafoon?
    I didn't agree with much of what Present Obama did. But he did some good ​things that I alpoded. When they got Binladden that was super. And kudos to Obama for oking the mission!
    The hipocracy is that if Obama had dropped this bigass bomb or if Hillary had won and this had occured, lefties would've been fine with it. But because it happened now, it's bad bad bad. And no President Trump is not in the business of dropping​ nuclear bombs. That is assumption is nutty.
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  • RYME said:

    This seems like a pretty pretty remote area. If this were dropped on a cave/tunnel complex with no civilian causalities, what is the issue? Big if...

    Yeah 92 ISIS members dead, no civilian casualties. Can anyone call a win a win? Or no matter what Trump is a bafoon?
    I didn't agree with much of what Present Obama did. But he did some good ​things that I alpoded. When they got Binladden that was super. And kudos to Obama for oking the mission!
    The hipocracy is that if Obama had dropped this bigass bomb or if Hillary had won and this had occured, lefties would've been fine with it. But because it happened now, it's bad bad bad. And no President Trump is not in the business of dropping​ nuclear bombs. That is assumption is nutty.
    I alpoded when Obama did an odd good thing too such as the one you mentioned: 'getting Binladden after oking the mission'.

    To your question though... yes... no matter what... Trump is a buffoon. He's the rare orange variety buffoon identifiable by their orange tint, small hands, obnoxious behaviour towards others, and soiled khakis.

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,891
    edited April 16
    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 3,886

    Did anyone notice that the same day the US dropped this MOAB, they made public a nuke test in nevada, of an underground bomb that could take out North Korea's nuclear facilities?
    ...and nuke tests are what they're threatening North Korea over?
    Mother of all dry runs?

    US fighter drops mock nuclear bomb on Nevada test site
    http://wwlp.com/2017/04/15/us-fighter-drops-mock-nuclear-bomb-on-nevada-test-site/amp/
  • Did anyone notice that the same day the US dropped this MOAB, they made public a nuke test in nevada, of an underground bomb that could take out North Korea's nuclear facilities?
    ...and nuke tests are what they're threatening North Korea over?
    Mother of all dry runs?

    US fighter drops mock nuclear bomb on Nevada test site
    http://wwlp.com/2017/04/15/us-fighter-drops-mock-nuclear-bomb-on-nevada-test-site/amp/
    In all honesty... is there a significant portion of the US population that actually has the stomach to drop another nuclear bomb? In other words, does the current US administration feel they've got the green light to use atomic weaponry?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
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  • My question was geared towards gauging mentality.

    I'm curious to know what the sentiment is for such a display of force. What percentage of the population would see such an act as something appropriate in a conflict setting?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139

    My question was geared towards gauging mentality.

    I'm curious to know what the sentiment is for such a display of force. What percentage of the population would see such an act as something appropriate in a conflict setting?

    bro we drop an atomic bomb i'm moving in with you. hope you have room for seven.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:

    My question was geared towards gauging mentality.

    I'm curious to know what the sentiment is for such a display of force. What percentage of the population would see such an act as something appropriate in a conflict setting?

    bro we drop an atomic bomb i'm moving in with you. hope you have room for seven.
    We will house the overflow at PJSoul's pad!

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,891
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,891

    My question was geared towards gauging mentality.

    I'm curious to know what the sentiment is for such a display of force. What percentage of the population would see such an act as something appropriate in a conflict setting?

    Depends how it's sold to them. Using the word 'tactical' is a pretty good pitch.
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    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    And thus the problem. We didn't learn anything from our last experiments with nukes, other than "let's make the next one better!".
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  • My question was geared towards gauging mentality.

    I'm curious to know what the sentiment is for such a display of force. What percentage of the population would see such an act as something appropriate in a conflict setting?

    Depends how it's sold to them. Using the word 'tactical' is a pretty good pitch.
    An awesome word for sure that will most assuredly garner approving head nods in the aftermath.

    As part of the sell job... don't forget the fore play that must occur: for example... knowing full well what your intentions are... strike fear within the population using tried, tested and true blue chip terminology like 'weapons of mass destruction' and 'bioweapons' leading up to the event.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,736

    unsung said:

    Supposedly over 100 dead

    And 200 new terrorists born. Woot?
    Um, you are preaching to the choir.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    And thus the problem. We didn't learn anything from our last experiments with nukes, other than "let's make the next one better!".
    Is that what canadians say when their government tests nuclear weapons?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 7,736

    Did anyone notice that the same day the US dropped this MOAB, they made public a nuke test in nevada, of an underground bomb that could take out North Korea's nuclear facilities?
    ...and nuke tests are what they're threatening North Korea over?
    Mother of all dry runs?

    US fighter drops mock nuclear bomb on Nevada test site
    http://wwlp.com/2017/04/15/us-fighter-drops-mock-nuclear-bomb-on-nevada-test-site/amp/
    In all honesty... is there a significant portion of the US population that actually has the stomach to drop another nuclear bomb? In other words, does the current US administration feel they've got the green light to use atomic weaponry?
    As long as John McCain is alive, yes.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    it really is easy to be a monday morning quarterback huh?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 9,222
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    it really is easy to be a monday morning quarterback huh?
    You are severely underestimating analysts and experts who could, and did, predict these results from the end of WWII onward.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 12,139
    rgambs said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    it really is easy to be a monday morning quarterback huh?
    You are severely underestimating analysts and experts who could, and did, predict these results from the end of WWII onward.
    Could you please point me to these analysts who predicted this? and from world war 2 onwards?! wow.
    who knew on august 9, 1945 japan and the united would be really close allies in 2017?!
    who knew one of the men responsible for the v2 rocket would put 2 americans on the moon in 1969?
    Crazy that supporting iraq in the 80's would come back to bite us in the ass.

    being a monday morning quarterback is easy
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 9,222
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    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:


    Yes the cia probably helped build it during the cold war. Tough to predict the future.

    Not probably. They were built by the CIA for the mujahideen (al Qaeda). I bet the war didn't feel too cold to afghanis.
    Not really hard to predict, either. The saying 'chickens come home to roost' has been around for about 700 years.
    Similar things are happening in Iraq. And Libya. And Syria. How many times can they say oops before the public believes that 'oops' was part of the plan?
    You are telling me that it was easy to predict that the same afghans who fought the soviets during the Cold War would have eventually been responsible for 9/11?
    And dirty, you always have hawks but no way close to a majority want to drop an atomic bomb. And where exactly do people think we are going to drop an atomic bomb? North Korea with a major ally to the south and a billion person nation to the north?
    it shouldn't be hard to figure out that when you ally with extremists to fight your enemy, it could backfire. terror attacks against western targets are a foregone conclusion thanks to these ongoing policies.
    And ya.....the whole point to the new weapons upgrades is to make nukes tactical. They are guided, and have adjustable loads. They can be 'dialled down' to close to the same tonnage as the MOABs, and are deliverable via fighter jet. the US stores these bombs in several European countries, including our wonderful ally turkey.
    They are also bunker-busters, ie: they detonate below ground, so less fallout.
    The whole point to them is to make them feasible for use....They are basically custom made for a situation like North Korea, where invasion and occupation is not desirable - only need to destroy a few large, well protected, underground facilities.
    it really is easy to be a monday morning quarterback huh?
    You are severely underestimating analysts and experts who could, and did, predict these results from the end of WWII onward.
    Could you please point me to these analysts who predicted this? and from world war 2 onwards?! wow.
    who knew on august 9, 1945 japan and the united would be really close allies in 2017?!
    who knew one of the men responsible for the v2 rocket would put 2 americans on the moon in 1969?
    Crazy that supporting iraq in the 80's would come back to bite us in the ass.

    being a monday morning quarterback is easy
    The destabilisation of the Middle East was not a surprise for anyone. Period.

    I don't know how Japan and the Moon are relevant.
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