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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    josevolution said:
    https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/09/09/pence-obama-trump-midterms-812655
    Fuck you Pence to actually say his disappointed in him for braking the norm lol 
    That is rich...
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mfc2006 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    No Trump tweets today.  Must be enjoying the NFL...
    He’s busy playing golf in his diaper.
    LOL
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Holy crap... how dangerous would this have been??

    http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/405787-woodward-draft-trump-tweet-alarmed-pentagon-officials
    For the good of your country.  Someone at twitter needs to ban trump from tweeting...
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,300
    edited September 2018
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !
    Post edited by josevolution on
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    LIE DETECTOR TEST.




    HILARIOUS
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    Was there ever a call for lie detector tests during the Obama administration of Obama administration officials?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Was there ever a call for lie detector tests during the Obama administration of Obama administration officials?
    Nixon wanted to do it.. I don't think they did though.  His staff stopped it.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    Her batting of her eye lashes, cocking hear head and smiling whilst describing her alternate facts and reality is getting old, real old. “I love the uneducated.” Suckers.

    Kellyanne Conway Says Anti-Trump Op-Ed Is Illegal, But That She Has 'No Idea' Why - Newsweek https://apple.news/AYIf77Q0GSN618UzUZt0wCw
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props

    But I'm not so sure one side would remove someone had they made a mistake in their selections.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props

    But I'm not so sure one side would remove someone had they made a mistake in their selections.
    You're crazy
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props

    But I'm not so sure one side would remove someone had they made a mistake in their selections.
    You're crazy

    lol

    I could be.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,288
    edited September 2018
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props

    But I'm not so sure one side would remove someone had they made a mistake in their selections.
    You're crazy
    The issue is no other elected official says things that are so fucking dumb and/or easily disprovable that prompts the strange facial expressions of the people standing behind him, leading to them being removed to prevent further embarrassment for said elected official. 
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    Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props

    But I'm not so sure one side would remove someone had they made a mistake in their selections.
    You're crazy
    The issue is no other elected official says things that are so fucking dumb and/or easily disprovable that prompts the strange facial expressions of the people standing behind him, leading to them being removed to prevent further embarrassment for said elected official. 

    And there's this too.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props

    But I'm not so sure one side would remove someone had they made a mistake in their selections.
    You're crazy
    The issue is no other elected official says things that are so fucking dumb and/or easily disprovable that prompts the strange facial expressions of the people standing behind him, leading to them being removed to prevent further embarrassment for said elected official. 
    You forgot the W years already? That's how bad this guy is lol
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    You guys realize he was a deliberate protestor right? Kid had on a democratic socialist pin, we think he is on the fence about Trump as he claims? Lol
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props
    Mindful of optics is one thing. Removing someone for making facial expressions is another. In the 9-10 years of Obama campaigning or giving speeches, link me to one instance where an attendee was removed. Further, if I recall, he was routinely heckled, would pause before continuing and at least one time implored the crowd to stop booing and let the person finish. Both sides are not the same.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Not exactly the same, but it only took 3 seconds to find 

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tosses-heckler-lgbt-event-youre-house/story?id=32006474
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    If HRC was POTUS right now... and held a rally... and some guy put on a MAGA hat behind her, or did what this guy did by making blatant expressions and disagreement, that person would be swapped out in a heartbeat... and honestly, we would never know about it... Trump has everyone hyper aware. The world is obsessed with all things Trump. If HRC was POTUS we would all be taking a nap
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    my2hands said:
    Not exactly the same, but it only took 3 seconds to find 

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tosses-heckler-lgbt-event-youre-house/story?id=32006474
    Not even in the same universe of behavior and venue.

    But I also don't see this as a big deal.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Both sides are the same in a lot of ways, not all ways, but in a lot of ways
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    Tiki said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    pronounce 'anonymous' during campaign rally speech

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-anonymous-mispronounces-speech-montana-campaign-rally-a8527256.html
    YO 

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    my2hands said:
    Not exactly the same, but it only took 3 seconds to find 

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tosses-heckler-lgbt-event-youre-house/story?id=32006474
    Wow, your 2 hands are fast. And like you said, not "exactly" the same. Inside the White House versus facial expressions, not even heckling, at a campaign style event in an arena. Both sides are not the same. Link me to someone being tossed or forced to move from behind either Obama or Clinton in an arena, gymnasium or conference center, ballroom, etc. The White House is a completely different type of venue. Further, link me to where Clinton or Obama encouraged physical violence on the heckler.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props
    Mindful of optics is one thing. Removing someone for making facial expressions is another. In the 9-10 years of Obama campaigning or giving speeches, link me to one instance where an attendee was removed. Further, if I recall, he was routinely heckled, would pause before continuing and at least one time implored the crowd to stop booing and let the person finish. Both sides are not the same.
    how many rallies did obama speak at where there were visible people behind him?
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    They choose people for those spots based on demographics and enthusiastic support... but I assume mostly demographics and what will look good on TV

    Trumps awareness if this, the TV and media, is a big reason he won. Optics
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props
    Mindful of optics is one thing. Removing someone for making facial expressions is another. In the 9-10 years of Obama campaigning or giving speeches, link me to one instance where an attendee was removed. Further, if I recall, he was routinely heckled, would pause before continuing and at least one time implored the crowd to stop booing and let the person finish. Both sides are not the same.
    how many rallies did obama speak at where there were visible people behind him?
    Dunno. More than 5 but less than 10,000?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    josevolution said:
    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/09/opinions/plaid-shirt-guy-free-expression-obeidallah/index.html
    Remember you must clap & cheer for the Baffoon or you will be questioned by the Secret Service , this idiot president is a total bully and his base follows suit !

    In all honesty... this incident might be the most troubling of all for a number of reasons.
    All sides do it... everything is a politcal prop... everything is scripted... everything is controlled... this is far from a Trump issue 
    Ahhhh, no.
    Bullshit. You think the people that stand behind Obama, HRC, or Bernie are not hand selected for very specific reasons? You think they would let a guy with a MAGA hat stand behind HRC on the trail while giving a speech? Yeah, ok lol. That person would be removed quicker than this guy was, no question.

    Both sides are very mindful of optics and political props
    Mindful of optics is one thing. Removing someone for making facial expressions is another. In the 9-10 years of Obama campaigning or giving speeches, link me to one instance where an attendee was removed. Further, if I recall, he was routinely heckled, would pause before continuing and at least one time implored the crowd to stop booing and let the person finish. Both sides are not the same.
    how many rallies did obama speak at where there were visible people behind him?
    Dunno. More than 5 but less than 10,000?
    my point is you can't really compare the two, as I don't recall obama speaking from anywhere during his presidency but a podium with no one behind him. 

    however, I think had HRC won, and there was a MAGA hat behind her, she may have brought it to the attention of everyone and said something like "all viewpoints are welcome at my speaches/rallies". I don't think they would have been removed. 
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