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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    mrussel1 said:
    Michael Cohen, Former Trump Attorney, Reaches Plea Deal: Reports

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/michael-cohen-plea-deal_us_5ad20bd8e4b0edca2cba4685


    Plea deals are not good for the POTUS.  The Manafort jury has a verdict on 8 of the 18 counts.  Should be an interesting 24 hours of news.  
    Thank you.  I am not sure how all this works.  Seems like the walls are closing in on Trump.  Is that fair to say?  Do you think his presidency is nearing an end...
    Merely the beginning of the end. Impeachment takes time.
    How much longer before Trump is impeached?
    Hearings will begin after committees are formed in January 2019. Summer 2020 seems reasonable, maybe sooner.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    dignin said:
    Too soon?

    ItS Happening Ron Paul GIF

    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,300
    There is no way the baffoon can get any work done not with this hanging over his shoulders , so no matter how long this takes his presidency will go down in history as one of thee most corrupt administrations ever he makes Nixon look like mickey mouse the baffoon is/has been a criminal for most of his adult life ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I hope they have fun at that MAGA rally in West Virginia tonight.   Idiots.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?

    ItS Happening Ron Paul GIF

    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?

    ItS Happening Ron Paul GIF

    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
    I hope you're right, but I tend to think you need to lose the support of a fair amount of the base to make the Senate turn. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?

    ItS Happening Ron Paul GIF

    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
    I hope you're right, but I tend to think you need to lose the support of a fair amount of the base to make the Senate turn. 
    Senators are elected state wide and not by grossly gerrymandered districts. Huge difference.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    Every couple of weeks something happens that the left thinks is the turning point.  It never is.  The party and the people are dug in.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?

    ItS Happening Ron Paul GIF

    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
    I hope you're right, but I tend to think you need to lose the support of a fair amount of the base to make the Senate turn. 
    Senators are elected state wide and not by grossly gerrymandered districts. Huge difference.
    But the base has the outsized impact in the primaries.  That's the risk for the "thinking" GOP Senator.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    edited August 2018

    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?


    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
    I hope you're right, but I tend to think you need to lose the support of a fair amount of the base to make the Senate turn. 
    Senators are elected state wide and not by grossly gerrymandered districts. Huge difference.
    But the base has the outsized impact in the primaries.  That's the risk for the "thinking" GOP Senator.
    Yeah.  I don’t see any GOPer ever voting against him.  Thi is not 1974.  It’s tribalism and Party First now.
    Post edited by OnWis97 on
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    OnWis97 said:

    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?


    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
    I hope you're right, but I tend to think you need to lose the support of a fair amount of the base to make the Senate turn. 
    Senators are elected state wide and not by grossly gerrymandered districts. Huge difference.
    But the base has the outsized impact in the primaries.  That's the risk for the "thinking" GOP Senator.
    Yeah.  I don’t see any GOPer ever voting against him.  Thi is not 1974.  It’s tribalism and Party First now.
    Some would... Sasse, Flake, McCain, Corker, but other than Sasse, these are all retiring Senators unfortunately.  They are too few and far between.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Probably Collins and Murkowski too.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,632
    Manafort will likely see the 10 charges refiled and then he has a whole new set of charges in DC next month.  It doesn't get any better for him. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    Flake would give an impassioned speech with visual aids and pyrotechnics about how embarrassing this has all been fo the country and the office.  Then vote to protect Trump.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,544
    edited August 2018
    OnWis97 said:
    Every couple of weeks something happens that the left thinks is the turning point.  It never is.  The party and the people are dug in.
    I don't see that... Can you give any specific examples of that? I don't recall one single "turning point moment" for the left yet with regard to the Mueller investigation. I think that until now they were all just waiting and watching (some patiently, some impatiently). I think you may be mistaking shock and horror and anger with people thinking it's an actual turning point.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    But don’t dare compare Team Trump Treason to Nazis.

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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    edited August 2018
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?

    ItS Happening Ron Paul GIF

    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I don't think this is likely, but if I were the GOP, I'd recognize the self-serving volatility of Donald Trump, and that he'll one day turn on the GOP when it's not a convenient relationship anymore (something that feels likely based on his typical actions). The GOP have the unique position that if they want to eliminate Trump politically, they can now do so.

    EDIT: Or whenever they want, really. I guess they could literally wait two terms to start shit if they remain in power.
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    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:

    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?


    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I disagree. The dems take the house and begin committee hearings and investigations, much of it based on Team Mueller's public record generated in criminal proceedings, plea deals and sentencing hearings. Plus, Team Mueller will release a report. Once those things happen and the dems hand up articles of impeachment, the repubes will have no choice but to put on a trial. And with the evidence presented, the more genteel senate, the time honored institution and its members will vote to convict. There will be enough repubes that will go along because it will be so painfully obvious. The "Establishment" hates Team Trump Treason. And we're not taling about one charge of perjury because of a stain on a dress. We're talking conspiracy to defraud the United States to throw an election. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger. 40 government officials were indicted and plead during Watergate and its aftermath. These 6 are just the beginning. RNC, NRA and Team Trump Treason? Its going to get ugly and go higher. Much higher.
    I hope you're right, but I tend to think you need to lose the support of a fair amount of the base to make the Senate turn. 
    Senators are elected state wide and not by grossly gerrymandered districts. Huge difference.
    But the base has the outsized impact in the primaries.  That's the risk for the "thinking" GOP Senator.
    Yeah.  I don’t see any GOPer ever voting against him.  Thi is not 1974.  It’s tribalism and Party First now.
    Some would... Sasse, Flake, McCain, Corker, but other than Sasse, these are all retiring Senators unfortunately.  They are too few and far between.  
     Resignation will come before it gets to that point. 

    He’s got a little over a year left in office. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    Too soon?



    Ha!!  
    He's not getting impeached any time soon, I'm sorry to say.  Remember that's a political process.  Nixon held on until he lost support of the Senate.  Today, Trump has a firm grip on the GOP so until that changes, no impeachment.  That is unless somehow the Dems can get 66 Senate seats and that isn't happening this cycle.  
    I don't think this is likely, but if I were the GOP, I'd recognize the self-serving volatility of Donald Trump, and that he'll one day turn on the GOP when it's not a convenient relationship anymore (something that feels likely based on his typical actions). The GOP have the unique position that if they want to eliminate Trump politically, they can now do so.

    EDIT: Or whenever they want, really. I guess they could literally wait two terms to start shit if they remain in power.
    I don't think he's going to turn on them. Sure, he would if it would help, but registered GOPers are his entire base. 

    As for the bold, I believe in the pre-internet, pre-cable-news days that this was possible.  But not now.
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    A repulsive  man spreading his orange semen evetywhere. Can they kick him out yet?
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    A repulsive  man spreading his orange semen evetywhere. Can they kick him out yet?
    I could have lived without that thought ...   ;)
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    Michael Cohen, Former Trump Attorney, Reaches Plea Deal: Reports

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/michael-cohen-plea-deal_us_5ad20bd8e4b0edca2cba4685


    Plea deals are not good for the POTUS.  The Manafort jury has a verdict on 8 of the 18 counts.  Should be an interesting 24 hours of news. tT
    Usually it's 48 hours, then it dies down and the crazed hysteria moves on to whatever next temporarily sticks to the wall.

    Next 48 hours just put this on loop:
    "Left" 1 2 Guilty, Cohen Manafort, trump lied, impeach, impeach, impeach, what if Cohen...Cohen possibly....Trump could have, "the walls are closing in", Trumps unfit, impeach(breathlessly waiting for the series of trump tweets)
    "Right" 10vs8, Mollie, Russia collusion to campaign finance, Mollie, campaign finance laws and taxis,? but Obama 2008, pardon anyway, unequal justice, nothing to do with Russia, Mollies wall, witch hunt (breathlessly waiting for the series of trump tweet?

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    My Attorney Got Arrested 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Michael Cohen, Former Trump Attorney, Reaches Plea Deal: Reports

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/michael-cohen-plea-deal_us_5ad20bd8e4b0edca2cba4685


    Plea deals are not good for the POTUS.  The Manafort jury has a verdict on 8 of the 18 counts.  Should be an interesting 24 hours of news. tT
    Usually it's 48 hours, then it dies down and the crazed hysteria moves on to whatever next temporarily sticks to the wall.

    Next 48 hours just put this on loop:
    "Left" 1 2 Guilty, Cohen Manafort, trump lied, impeach, impeach, impeach, what if Cohen...Cohen possibly....Trump could have, "the walls are closing in", Trumps unfit, impeach(breathlessly waiting for the series of trump tweets)
    "Right" 10vs8, Mollie, Russia collusion to campaign finance, Mollie, campaign finance laws and taxis,? but Obama 2008, pardon anyway, unequal justice, nothing to do with Russia, Mollies wall, witch hunt (breathlessly waiting for the series of trump tweet?

    You forgot, for the left, “ongoing Mueller investigation, Flynn sentencing delayed, more shoes to drop.” I look forward to your arcane, irrelevant distractions, like the King of Swaziland’s mother.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    Oh, and you also forgot, again for the left, “Alpha Bank’s defamation lawsuit against Christopher Steele and his firm’s Dossier was dismissed ‘without prejudice’ and Cohen was mentioned 4 times, what else can be true?”

    PTAPE IN COHEN’S POSSESSION?
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    "It's certainly not affecting his golf game..."

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,300
    It’s 8am here in NY he hasn’t tweeted yet ? What’s going on ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
    JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Michael Cohen, Former Trump Attorney, Reaches Plea Deal: Reports

    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/michael-cohen-plea-deal_us_5ad20bd8e4b0edca2cba4685


    Plea deals are not good for the POTUS.  The Manafort jury has a verdict on 8 of the 18 counts.  Should be an interesting 24 hours of news. tT
    Usually it's 48 hours, then it dies down and the crazed hysteria moves on to whatever next...

    This is true.  The outrage when he praised Russia and dissed our own agencies was huge...for a few days.  It’s forgotten now.
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    It’s 8am here in NY he hasn’t tweeted yet ? What’s going on ..
    He knows he’s fucked. 
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