Donald Trump

Abe Froman

Trump is a complete embarrassment.  I have nothing else left to say.  The fact that there are still a lot of people blindly supporting this dipshit gives me very little hope for society.  Some people I know that support him are good people too.  They just blindly support him due to various reasons of which are all ridiculous to me.  (example: pro life.  Thats it.  One fucking issue.  So dumb)

CM189191

JC29856 said:

PJ_Soul said:

JC29856 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Trump is facing extreme criticism for very good reason.

This is exactly what I am thankful for!
Finally we can criticize a president and not be called a racist(or sexist, thank heavens!). Its refreshing to be able criticize a potus and flotus without being called derogatory names! Am I the only one thankful for this?
Unfortunately for most on here, most in the MSM and most Dems, the criticisms are misdirected. There are 100s of things to truly gripe about but the ones we see and hear most often are not the criticisms that matter.

Unless you're talking about his appearance, I feel like all the criticisms matter. All the ones about his behaviour and his tweets and his inability to do anything right, even in the smallest way, matter a lot IMO. But I do agree that while there are just SO MANY things to criticize, some of the more complicated things, such as details in legislation and executive orders, can get overshadowed by the daily onslaught of terrible behaviour on Trump's part..... I can't believe how fucked up it is that what I just said is true.

here is one not mentioned in here: Brett Talley!!

to your point about tweets

https://twitter.com/Louis_Allday/status/935906719678550016

George W. Bush's speech to Muslims after 9/11

Bush's speech to United Nations

Bush's address to a joint session of Congress

JC29856

CM189191 said:

JC29856 said:

PJ_Soul said:

JC29856 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Trump is facing extreme criticism for very good reason.

This is exactly what I am thankful for!
Finally we can criticize a president and not be called a racist(or sexist, thank heavens!). Its refreshing to be able criticize a potus and flotus without being called derogatory names! Am I the only one thankful for this?
Unfortunately for most on here, most in the MSM and most Dems, the criticisms are misdirected. There are 100s of things to truly gripe about but the ones we see and hear most often are not the criticisms that matter.

Unless you're talking about his appearance, I feel like all the criticisms matter. All the ones about his behaviour and his tweets and his inability to do anything right, even in the smallest way, matter a lot IMO. But I do agree that while there are just SO MANY things to criticize, some of the more complicated things, such as details in legislation and executive orders, can get overshadowed by the daily onslaught of terrible behaviour on Trump's part..... I can't believe how fucked up it is that what I just said is true.

here is one not mentioned in here: Brett Talley!!

to your point about tweets

https://twitter.com/Louis_Allday/status/935906719678550016

George W. Bush's speech to Muslims after 9/11

Bush's speech to United Nations

Bush's address to a joint session of Congress

Action: Entire middle east destabilized, millions dead and displaced based on a plethora of lies (almost 15 years later at a cost of $5,500,000,000,000)
Words: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/21/president-trumps-speech-arab-islamic-american-summit

PJ_Soul

JC29856 said:

PJ_Soul said:

JC29856 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Trump is facing extreme criticism for very good reason.

This is exactly what I am thankful for!
Finally we can criticize a president and not be called a racist(or sexist, thank heavens!). Its refreshing to be able criticize a potus and flotus without being called derogatory names! Am I the only one thankful for this?
Unfortunately for most on here, most in the MSM and most Dems, the criticisms are misdirected. There are 100s of things to truly gripe about but the ones we see and hear most often are not the criticisms that matter.

Unless you're talking about his appearance, I feel like all the criticisms matter. All the ones about his behaviour and his tweets and his inability to do anything right, even in the smallest way, matter a lot IMO. But I do agree that while there are just SO MANY things to criticize, some of the more complicated things, such as details in legislation and executive orders, can get overshadowed by the daily onslaught of terrible behaviour on Trump's part..... I can't believe how fucked up it is that what I just said is true.

here is one not mentioned in here: Brett Talley!!

to your point about tweets

https://twitter.com/Louis_Allday/status/935906719678550016

This seems strangely off topic.

BS44325

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

PJ_Soul

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, the middle class, refugees, accessible education, accessible healthcare, foreign affairs and security, government corruption, sexual assault, women's rights, racial equality, scientific rigour, relative honesty in government, competent and qualified leaders, and a bunch of other really, really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on? I don't think I've ever seen you say something so ridiculous.

BS44325

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

tbergs

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, the middle class, refugees, accessible education, accessible healthcare, foreign affairs and security, government corruption, sexual assault, women's rights, racial equality, scientific rigour, relative honesty in government, competent and qualified leaders, and a bunch of other really, really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on? I don't think I've ever seen you say something so ridiculous.

Seriously, they don't need Trump, just someone with an R who is next in line. All they have to do is get the balls to impeach the piece of shit, but they don't because they are worthless pieces of shit themselves who have the mob mentality. If you get him out and put Pence in, nothing changes on your agenda and the whole country and your party aren't an embarrassment every time POTUS has a bowel movement or is allowed to speak.

PJ_Soul

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

Well there really isn't room for debate when you make comments like that. There is no damaged psyche, that's so fucking dumb. I'm thinking about real stuff that is happening and you are obviously completely ignoring it or don't give a shit. And if you think that was freaking out, well I don't know what to say. I have no clue what about my post was "freaking out"). Get out of here with your "listen to alternative view points", lol. Saying that everything is going well and no damage is being done to anything or anyone right now isn't an alternative viewpoint. It's just a random comment with literally no factual merit. You seem to expect us to not respond to fucking idiotic comments, lol. Sorry, you get what you give bud. Don't blame a reasonable reaction to something moronic on everyone else.

rgambs

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

I call BS, lol

You've been a beacon of conservative thought around here at times, those times disappeared when the Trump campaign "got serious", to use a paradoxical turn of phrase.

Your post started with an insult to the people of AMT, continues with a dismissal lacking evidence, and finishes with Cake lyrics that are the opposite of reality to a laughable degree.
That amounts to a pretty trolly post.

HesCalledDyer

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

I've said it before, the first two letters of your screenname suit you very well. 

Also, Cake fucking sucks.

BS44325

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

I call BS, lol

You've been a beacon of conservative thought around here at times, those times disappeared when the Trump campaign "got serious", to use a paradoxical turn of phrase.

Your post started with an insult to the people of AMT, continues with a dismissal lacking evidence, and finishes with Cake lyrics that are the opposite of reality to a laughable degree.
That amounts to a pretty trolly post.

Tell me you didn't like the Cake lyrics...

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

If you don’t see it, it must not be happening. 

rgambs

BS44325 said:

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

I call BS, lol

You've been a beacon of conservative thought around here at times, those times disappeared when the Trump campaign "got serious", to use a paradoxical turn of phrase.

Your post started with an insult to the people of AMT, continues with a dismissal lacking evidence, and finishes with Cake lyrics that are the opposite of reality to a laughable degree.
That amounts to a pretty trolly post.

Tell me you didn't like the Cake lyrics...

I did.

JC29856

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

Well there really isn't room for debate when you make comments like that. There is no damaged psyche, that's so fucking dumb. I'm thinking about real stuff that is happening and you are obviously completely ignoring it or don't give a shit. And if you think that was freaking out, well I don't know what to say. I have no clue what about my post was "freaking out"). Get out of here with your "listen to alternative view points", lol. Saying that everything is going well and no damage is being done to anything or anyone right now isn't an alternative viewpoint. It's just a random comment with literally no factual merit.

Is an example of "real stuff" the Paris Agreement? Is "real stuff" tweeting?
What exactly is "real stuff"? Deportations? Net neutrality? Hegemony?
Did all this "real stuff" damage to the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs and etc just start in January?

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

If you don’t see it, it must not be happening. 

I'm happy to go topic by topic if everyone on here can handle it. Should we start with economic indicators first?

Go Beavers

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

If you don’t see it, it must not be happening. 

I'm happy to go topic by topic if everyone on here can handle it. Should we start with economic indicators first?

Yes. That sounds good. Along with hate crime indicators. 

BS44325

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

If you don’t see it, it must not be happening. 

I'm happy to go topic by topic if everyone on here can handle it. Should we start with economic indicators first?

Yes. That sounds good. Along with hate crime indicators. 

No doubt hate crime indicators are up. When mainstream conservative thought is labelled as such the incidence certainly skyrockets. That economy though...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

When will the GOP realize he’s unhinged and is damaging their country? What will it take for them to grow a set and publicly speak out? Or will they laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us eat cake?

Other then the obvious damage to the AMT's psyche I'm just not seeing the damage to which you speak of. Sure his style is brutal but on all other fronts things are progressing rather well. Because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course, He's fighting and biting and riding on his horse, He's going the distance.

You must think that because you don't give a shit about the environment, poor people, refugees, accessible education, foreign affairs, and bunch of other really important things? How silly that you are trying to say that Trump isn't doing damage to the USA and Americans and that things are progressing well. Are you just trolling or do you just have massive blinders on?

The incorrect assumption you make is that "I don't give a shit about...". You, like most of the AMT, jump immediately to that no-room for debate position...that my intentions are bad, that I am heartless, that I don't give a shit. The damaged AMT psyche I speak of is on you. It is not on me. You need to develop a capacity to listen to alternative view points like you were once able to do with alternative music. I do not troll. I speak out. You freak out.

'Alternate points of view' like the ones your ignorant idol spoke to in Charlottsville?

And you speak to economic indicators as if the economy was pulled out of the dumpster and revived by the orange one. The only time I can recall that happening in my time of awareness was when Obama did that after Bush ran the country into the ground. It is his legacy that has created the current climate. We'll see Trump's economy in a while.

Let's hope- for the US' sake- that the country doesn't go the way of his other awesome business ventures.

rgambs