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***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    2018
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    it's a fair point. because most people here believe clinton to be on the up and up, or at the very least, less corrupt than trump, so if trump meets with someone, it's automatically collusion of some kind, with clinton, it's "I'm sure she had good reason". 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,162
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    And yet, you still hear, "lock her up" in your head, don't you? Look who's becoming the biggest defender of, "drain the swamp." Priceless, Herr Sergeant Schultz!
    Oh, and by the way, when you accuse people of being Nazi's, a neo-Nazi, or "literally Hitler" you equate the Third Reich and the Holocaust with the most mundane activities and occurances.  Imagine being in a concentration camp and your family gets sent to the gas chamber and you are told that it is now the common leftist response to daily political debate.  That is your retort.

    Way to minimize a tragedy. 
    tell that to the republican who just recently posted a video he took for political opportunity at a nazi gas chamber. neither side has the monopoly on hyperbole.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,162
    unsung said:
    I was not speaking of this forum in particular, but I am speaking about a much wider populace.
    So the "wider populace" calls the entire right Nazis? I wonder what your sources are for this claim?
    the ron paul newsletter?

    or actually, that is the one spouting white nationalism. my bad.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,162
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    i thought it was shady. but i will say what i said then. if you have evidence, produce it, arrest her, indict her, try her, and if guilty lock her up.

    kind of ironic that the above is exactly what is going to happen to trump and his sons, and his son in law.
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
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    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    Ouch. Trump Jr knew through email that the info he was to see in that meeting came from the Russian government which was trying to help Trump. 

    I dont say this lightly, but, ouch...,

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    ^^^
    And will this stunning drawjopping info speed up the impeachment date or lead to nothing?


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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    ^^^
    And will this stunning drawjopping info speed up the impeachment date or lead to nothing?


    Could go either way, as you damn well know while you pretend not to. The public hearing nothing on the impeachment proceedings thus far is neither an indication of a smoking gun nor the absence of one. 
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    I'd say this development is a pretty big deal
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
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    benjs said:
    ^^^
    And will this stunning drawjopping info speed up the impeachment date or lead to nothing?


    Could go either way, as you damn well know while you pretend not to. The public hearing nothing on the impeachment proceedings thus far is neither an indication of a smoking gun nor the absence of one. 
    If this were Facebook, I'd thumbs up the shit out of this post. 
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
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    ^^^
    And will this stunning drawjopping info speed up the impeachment date or lead to nothing?


    Another stupid question.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    He can't. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,109
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    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    Oh please.....an "impromptu meeting" ... "happened to be at the same airport"... c'mon
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    Oh please.....an "impromptu meeting" ... "happened to be at the same airport"... c'mon
    ...well....show me otherwise...

    Are you suggesting it was a scheduled meeting?  That Clinton and Lynch had planned to meet on the PHX tarmac?
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,635
    edited July 2017
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    Oh please.....an "impromptu meeting" ... "happened to be at the same airport"... c'mon
    Dang. I thought we were done with the Clinton/Obama did it to rebuttal.  

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,109
    2018
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    Oh please.....an "impromptu meeting" ... "happened to be at the same airport"... c'mon
    Dang. I thought we were done with the Clinton/Obama did it to rebuttal.  

    Ummm...I've been pretty clear that Trump/Russia thing is awful and looks like is heading in the direction of bad news for him.  I just think that anyone that thinks the Lynch/Clinton talk was just pure luck....is not really thinking very hard.  I've never used 1 to dispute the other, but good try.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,635
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    Oh please.....an "impromptu meeting" ... "happened to be at the same airport"... c'mon
    Dang. I thought we were done with the Clinton/Obama did it to rebuttal.  

    Ummm...I've been pretty clear that Trump/Russia thing is awful and looks like is heading in the direction of bad news for him.  I just think that anyone that thinks the Lynch/Clinton talk was just pure luck....is not really thinking very hard.  I've never used 1 to dispute the other, but good try.
    I supose I'm commenting more on the fact that the issue surfaced in here rather than your response alone. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,109
    2018
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    SO......... you met with an influential Russian lawyer..... with ties to the Kremlin...in Trump Tower....in the middle of the campaign...in secret... to talk about......adoption?


    Got it.





    So you are under FBI investigation and your husband, who happens to be a former President, speaks to the current Attorney General in a plane on a tarmac, in secret, about grandkids and a golf game?

    Got it.
    Do you all live in some bizzaro world where both of these things could be very bad?  I mean, just cause you contradict someone with something bad the other side did, doesn't mean the bad stuff your side does is no big deal?
    I just don't recall anyone here being as upset when Clinton met Lynch.
    Clinton and Lynch were co-workers for many years. And it was an impromptu meeting when they realized they happened to be at the same airport. There's nothing to indicate they talked about the election. Fredo met with a Russian lawyer, who was a complete stranger, under the pretext of receiving damaging information about Hillary. Explain to me how these two are equivalent.
    Oh please.....an "impromptu meeting" ... "happened to be at the same airport"... c'mon
    Dang. I thought we were done with the Clinton/Obama did it to rebuttal.  

    Ummm...I've been pretty clear that Trump/Russia thing is awful and looks like is heading in the direction of bad news for him.  I just think that anyone that thinks the Lynch/Clinton talk was just pure luck....is not really thinking very hard.  I've never used 1 to dispute the other, but good try.
    I supose I'm commenting more on the fact that the issue surfaced in here rather than your response alone. 
    Ah....my bad.  Then I actually agree with you. ;)
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    So the email appears to show that collusion was offered and happily accepted. At best, unethical. At worst--violation of campaign finance laws? I would think all other campaigns would alert the fbi if they were told that the Russian government wanted to assist their campaign...no?


    And if nothing nefarious happened afterwards......why oh why would Don Jr and EVERYONE else associated with the campaign lie about never having any contacts with the Russians?


    Long and winding road to impeachment/resignation, folks. Keep those seat belts buckled...

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611

    So the email appears to show that collusion was offered and happily accepted. At best, unethical. At worst--violation of campaign finance laws? I would think all other campaigns would alert the fbi if they were told that the Russian government wanted to assist their campaign...no?


    And if nothing nefarious happened afterwards......why oh why would Don Jr and EVERYONE else associated with the campaign lie about never having any contacts with the Russians?


    Long and winding road to impeachment/resignation, folks. Keep those seat belts buckled...

    There is just so much smoke there....  Manafart, Flynn, etc...  Its hard to imagine everything was/is on the up and up
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    MayDay10 said:
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says
    Full transparency as in "I was told that the Russian government wanted in and I said I love it."  Amazing.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,611
    MayDay10 said:
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says
    Full transparency as in "I was told that the Russian government wanted in and I said I love it."  Amazing.

    Love it! Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    MayDay10 said:
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says
    Full transparency as in "I was told that the Russian government wanted in and I said I love it."  Amazing.


    The fact that this story is now focusing on Trump's son's EMAILS is just dripping with irony.
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122
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    MayDay10 said:
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says
    Full transparency as in "I was told that the Russian government wanted in and I said I love it."  Amazing.


    The fact that this story is now focusing on Trump's son's EMAILS is just dripping with irony.
    However, you know Trump will fire back that at least Jr released his emails. I mean if the NYT can  get to the just released emails imagine what Mueller and his team is finding out in secrecy.

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    edited July 2017
    they sold us out



    firing squad


    edit for clarity: state execution, not armed citizens
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    MayDay10 said:
    they sold us out



    firing squad


    edit for clarity: state execution, not armed citizens
    So you aren't against guns, got it.
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    MayDay10 said:
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says

    Who said he was scrambling?  If anything he was putting it out as fast as the NYT scrambled to put it out.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,298
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    MayDay10 said:
    Is it possible a human being is as dumb as Fredo appears to be?  
    Apparently, the NYT were publishing the emails at any moment, so he scrambled to release it on his own for "full transparency" as he says

    Who said he was scrambling?  If anything he was putting it out as fast as the NYT scrambled to put it out.
    He called the Times right as they were about to release them to ask for more time so he could comment on it...then he just preemptively released them himself to claim "transparency."
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