A hole has been blown in the Democratic Party, and mainstream media’s narrative, that Russia was behind the leak of DNC emails to Wikileaks.
On Sunday, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, said he has met the person who gave the DNC emails and it was not the Russians.
“As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two,” he wrote. “And it should be said again and again, that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened.”
It’s the reality that so many in the mainstream media ignore. It wasn’t about who leaked the emails. It was about what they said.
If you choose to believe the CIA who hacks US congress members over wikileaks with a pristine track record, so be it.
If a random former ambassador appeared and said, without any proof, that he had met the Russian operative who hacked the DNC, I would have my doubts and question it. So I also question and also have my doubts when a random former ambassador appears and says, without any proof, that he met the leaker and that it is an inside job.
I agree.
Best approach is to slaughter Donald for his bromance with Putin, but not go too far betting on Putin re Syria.
The problem for Donald is that he stood at a podium and in full view of the press and the country begged Putin to hack Clinton. So he doesn't deserve much benefit of the doubt here.
Yeah, I guess if he was serious he probably might have just texted Putin instead.
A hole has been blown in the Democratic Party, and mainstream media’s narrative, that Russia was behind the leak of DNC emails to Wikileaks.
On Sunday, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, said he has met the person who gave the DNC emails and it was not the Russians.
“As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two,” he wrote. “And it should be said again and again, that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened.”
It’s the reality that so many in the mainstream media ignore. It wasn’t about who leaked the emails. It was about what they said.
If you choose to believe the CIA who hacks US congress members over wikileaks with a pristine track record, so be it.
If a random former ambassador appeared and said, without any proof, that he had met the Russian operative who hacked the DNC, I would have my doubts and question it. So I also question and also have my doubts when a random former ambassador appears and says, without any proof, that he met the leaker and that it is an inside job.
I agree.
Best approach is to slaughter Donald for his bromance with Putin, but not go too far betting on Putin re Syria.
The problem for Donald is that he stood at a podium and in full view of the press and the country begged Putin to hack Clinton. So he doesn't deserve much benefit of the doubt here.
Yeah, I guess if he was serious he probably might have just texted Putin instead.
I could care less about Clinton she lost the election she's done ! Now it's about Bafoon everything should be investigated just like they did to Obama with the birther movement Bafoon didn't let up till when this summer ? I say every rock should be overturned!
I could care less about Clinton she lost the election she's done ! Now it's about Bafoon everything should be investigated just like they did to Obama with the birther movement Bafoon didn't let up till when this summer ? I say every rock should be overturned!
I could care less about Clinton she lost the election she's done ! Now it's about Bafoon everything should be investigated just like they did to Obama with the birther movement Bafoon didn't let up till when this summer ? I say every rock should be overturned!
I could care less about Clinton she lost the election she's done ! Now it's about Bafoon everything should be investigated just like they did to Obama with the birther movement Bafoon didn't let up till when this summer ? I say every rock should be overturned!
Completely fair.
Ok now we can move forward believe me I want to see how he will govern I want him to get the chance !
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
Yeah so what now just let it be ? This mess has to be sorted and fixed ASAP ! The moment Bafoon was nominated the world started laughing at us ..
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
Yeah so what now just let it be ? This mess has to be sorted and fixed ASAP ! The moment Bafoon was nominated the world started laughing at us ..
I'm not sure what the endgame is other then claiming Putin owned the DNC and Obama one last time. I'm 99% sure Trump was not in cahoots with Russia because he is a noted bafoon, so Dems are just making the case that they fell asleep at the wheel and let Ivan sneak in the back door.
What's Obama gonna do? You know the answer is nothing. Putin has been three steps ahead of him for the past several years, bombing civilians and Obama has done nothing and these are well documented and proven atrocities.
I would be surprised to learn Trump himself was in cahoots with Putin. I wouldn't be so surprised to learn someone on his campaign was in cahoots with Putin.
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I have said over and over again probably 10 years now that Russia and China prevent any chance of peace on this planet. Russia props up Iran and Assad in the Middle East and China props up North Korea.
What does that have to do with Russia meddling in our election process , are you ok with them being involved in it ?
This post came from watching the video above between Obama and Romney about Russia and how the USA gets such a bad rap for being world police but they are forced into because Russia and China won't lift a finger to put pressure (non-military) on certain countries that are the problem makers. Something needs to be done in the Middle East but the USA is still in a state of shock from the 15 years of wars that weren't necessary if Russia weren't propping up Iran and now Assad and can't help when help is badly needed.
I'm not okay at all with Russia meddling in our elections but I'm not blind to the many elections the USA has meddled in and the bugging of European leaders (that were US allies no less!). Seems business as usual to me so the uproar now seems a little hypocritical and disingenuous even though we should do what we can to prevent Russian influence in our elections just like they would us.
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
This may come as a surprise, but this wouldn't be why the US looks like schmucks.
I will never understand how the public just accepts everything they're told, no questioning, no need for real proof what our leaders tell us. If Obama wants to see Trump out of the office, go a different direction. Because defending the corrupt Democratic Party isn't working anymore!
Proof:
BREAKING: CIA REMOTELY ACCESSED RUSSIAN HACKER'S WEBCAM MOMENTS BEFORE HACK, FIRST IMAGE HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!
New York Times national security reporter David Sanger also cast doubt on the idea, pointing out that the first hacking incident predated Trump's political ascendance.
"It would seem unlikely though that influencing the election was the initial goal because the first intrusion," Sanger said, adding, "[It] was in the summer of 2015, long before anybody knew that Donald Trump would emerge as the candidate."
if russia hacked clinton's emails, who fucking cares. as someone else said, if it's hackable, that's unfortunately fair game on the international stage. the US does this shit all the time. as someone else also mentioned, the US hacked the german chancellor.
if they hacked the voting machines, which there is zero evidence of, that would be a problem.
but simply "influencing" an election means nothing.
if russia hacked clinton's emails, who fucking cares. as someone else said, if it's hackable, that's unfortunately fair game on the international stage. the US does this shit all the time. as someone else also mentioned, the US hacked the german chancellor.
if they hacked the voting machines, which there is zero evidence of, that would be a problem.
but simply "influencing" an election means nothing.
As I said before, it's wave after wave of failed attempts to delegitimize trumps presidency. It's the only option the democrats have left after losing pres, house and Senate. They gambled and lost and now have zero control.
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if russia hacked clinton's emails, who fucking cares. as someone else said, if it's hackable, that's unfortunately fair game on the international stage. the US does this shit all the time. as someone else also mentioned, the US hacked the german chancellor.
if they hacked the voting machines, which there is zero evidence of, that would be a problem.
but simply "influencing" an election means nothing.
Completely agree. Imagine how many recounts there would be all of the world from the last 80 years of elections if US influence was a cause for recounts.
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
This has to be good times for Putin with everyone looking like a bunch of babies on the global stage blaming Russia for this.
Listen it's all about Bafoon now so you an American are ok with any other country meddling in our election process no one is taking the presidency away from him ! This is about another administration having their hands in our process are you ok with that ? Forget HC she's done gone good bye ..
It's what security agencies do, they meddle. If you can't protect a server, how can you protect the nation? It's not like anything juicy was released when the exception that the DNC officially had the fix in over Bernie.
I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
Yeah so what now just let it be ? This mess has to be sorted and fixed ASAP ! The moment Bafoon was nominated the world started laughing at us ..
I'm not sure what the endgame is other then claiming Putin owned the DNC and Obama one last time. I'm 99% sure Trump was not in cahoots with Russia because he is a noted bafoon, so Dems are just making the case that they fell asleep at the wheel and let Ivan sneak in the back door.
What's Obama gonna do? You know the answer is nothing. Putin has been three steps ahead of him for the past several years, bombing civilians and Obama has done nothing and these are well documented and proven atrocities.
As are the atrocities all over the Middle East and North Africa by west and gulf state backed terrorists. By this logic, Putin is justified in his actions in Syria and Ukraine, and in attempting to influence the US election (if they did), to ensure regime change in America....and Obama is weak for using proxies to do his killing, while Putin uses his own forces.
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I'm not OK with Russia having success meddling, but we look like a bunch of schmucks when they succeed and then whine to the world about it.
Vladimir - "Hey Donnie look at the mess you're in with this hacking nonsense. What's going on"?
Trump - "I wish I was on twitter right now"
Trump: "No, and it's a lot bigger than a pen. Believe me."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
What's Obama gonna do? You know the answer is nothing. Putin has been three steps ahead of him for the past several years, bombing civilians and Obama has done nothing and these are well documented and proven atrocities.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I'm not okay at all with Russia meddling in our elections but I'm not blind to the many elections the USA has meddled in and the bugging of European leaders (that were US allies no less!). Seems business as usual to me so the uproar now seems a little hypocritical and disingenuous even though we should do what we can to prevent Russian influence in our elections just like they would us.
You guys took care of that in November.
New York Times national security reporter David Sanger also cast doubt on the idea, pointing out that the first hacking incident predated Trump's political ascendance.
"It would seem unlikely though that influencing the election was the initial goal because the first intrusion," Sanger said, adding, "[It] was in the summer of 2015, long before anybody knew that Donald Trump would emerge as the candidate."
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if they hacked the voting machines, which there is zero evidence of, that would be a problem.
but simply "influencing" an election means nothing.
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What would you have liked obama to do?