Do Aliens Exist?

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    edited November 2016
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
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    No, humans can't built those without the help or high knowledge at 500AD..but you can say whatever you want..we live in a free world..or not??
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,825
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZl73qzTUV7-AZkRNFc6FiGgFvhWMD5M2eSKh6HKMYVhzrdcIZ
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    No, humans can't built those without the help or high knowledge at 500AD..but you can say whatever you want..we live in a free world..or not??

    Of course they could, what evidence do you have that they couldn't?
    None.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    23scidoo said:

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZl73qzTUV7-AZkRNFc6FiGgFvhWMD5M2eSKh6HKMYVhzrdcIZ
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    No, humans can't built those without the help or high knowledge at 500AD..but you can say whatever you want..we live in a free world..or not??

    What are we supposed to see that humans couldn't build in 500 AD? Are you saying that humans couldn't carve a straight line or fit large stones together to build a wall by that point?
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    edited November 2016
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    Not even a razor blade can slide between the rocks. Some of these blocks are finished to 'machine' quality and the holes drilled to perfection. This is supposed to have been achieved by a civilization that had no writing system.To made this today, you must use lazer..
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,825
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    Not even a razor blade can slide between the rocks. Some of these blocks are finished to 'machine' quality and the holes drilled to perfection. This is supposed to have been achieved by a civilization that had no writing system.To made this today, you must use lazer..

    I highly doubt there is any credible evidence to support this assertion.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    i can't do nothing about that..
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,825
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    i can't do nothing about that..

    You could provide credible evidence...
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    You can search..
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,825
    Yes
    23scidoo said:

    You can search..

    No, thank you. Common sense is all it takes to know that humans can, in fact, carve stone.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    I agree..common sense..
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  • chadwickchadwick up my assPosts: 21,007
    yes there are massive granite slabs that fit together so tightly a single human hair cannot be wedged between two stone slabs. that's pretty astounding. then there are the (beyond) high quality flawless holes so perfectly spaced & drilled it would make today's engineers sweat. who (back in the day) had a laser grid measuring kit, 1400 diamondhead cutting & penetrating drill systems crammed up there noses? who is so intricate? elaborate. comprehensible only with painstaking effort - says a dictionary im looking through. um no. it is incomprehensible to do some of the things that supposedly we humans (thousands of years ago) have done. sure we can build the great pyramids, the great wall of china, carve massive buddha right out of & into a mountainside. some tasks take hundreds of years with thousands of hardworking folks. still... how do you move three hundred & sixty five 100 ton perfectly chiseled stones across a desert? maybe it wasn't a desert back then but a ocean & ships sailed the quarried stones around for the enjoyment of some emperor somewhere? trees rolling system? ok. sure. i'll give ya that. logs rolling system crossing mountain ranges, desert & hundreds if not thousands of miles. a determined couple of centuries can pull off some great things. some things just don't add up
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  • chadwickchadwick up my assPosts: 21,007
    edit for up top...
    "buddhas" not "buddha"

    i don't like hitting the edit button. proves there was a mistake of some kind. yep im a dick
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    ^^thank you sir..
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  • chadwickchadwick up my assPosts: 21,007
    you are most welcome, mister
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 8,825
    Yes
    chadwick said:

    yes there are massive granite slabs that fit together so tightly a single human hair cannot be wedged between two stone slabs. that's pretty astounding. then there are the (beyond) high quality flawless holes so perfectly spaced & drilled it would make today's engineers sweat. who (back in the day) had a laser grid measuring kit, 1400 diamondhead cutting & penetrating drill systems crammed up there noses? who is so intricate? elaborate. comprehensible only with painstaking effort - says a dictionary im looking through. um no. it is incomprehensible to do some of the things that supposedly we humans (thousands of years ago) have done. sure we can build the great pyramids, the great wall of china, carve massive buddha right out of & into a mountainside. some tasks take hundreds of years with thousands of hardworking folks. still... how do you move three hundred & sixty five 100 ton perfectly chiseled stones across a desert? maybe it wasn't a desert back then but a ocean & ships sailed the quarried stones around for the enjoyment of some emperor somewhere? trees rolling system? ok. sure. i'll give ya that. logs rolling system crossing mountain ranges, desert & hundreds if not thousands of miles. a determined couple of centuries can pull off some great things. some things just don't add up

    All of that is exaggeration from eager extraterrestrial believers. The right angles aren't perfect, the holes aren't evenly spaced or perfect, you don't need diamond tools to work sandstone, the gaps that once existed between the stones are filled with debris from time and they have settled together the way heavy stones do. Ancient Aliens believers won't show you the pictures of the half-finished blocks with the chisel and stone hammer marks not sanded out, or the tools they found on site and in the area, or the drag marks and rope grooves that were used to place the stones.
    "They didn't have writing"
    They didn't have an alphabet, the stones themselves represent the symbols in their iconography that they used to communicate. You don't need words to build, you only need drawings.

    It's all bullshit that is only accepted due to confirmation bias.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    ^^^^^^^^^ Thank you, sir. For pointing out what should be obvious but for which I don't have the patience.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,209
    edited November 2016
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing. If they were going to bother coming down and building shit, wouldn't they build stuff that is reflective of a society that is that technologically advanced, and then stick around to actually use what they built? I really never understood these alien-built ancient structure theories at all. If they find one made out of solid fucking titanium or something, then I'll consider it, lol.
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  • seanwonseanwon Albany, NYPosts: 195
    rgambs said:

    23scidoo said:

    i can't do nothing about that..

    You could provide credible evidence...
    So could you, but all I seem to see is your opinion, no evidence. Just saying.
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  • seanwonseanwon Albany, NYPosts: 195
    PJ_Soul said:

    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing.

    Wrong. What if they knew they were dealing with a primitive species who was prone to violence and territorial behavior and would ultimately destroy ourselves, and were trying to guide us along the right path?

    The US is the most technologically advanced (when it comes to warfare) nation in Earth's history.....have we used that for peace keeping, rather than inciting chaos around the world?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    seanwon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing.

    Wrong. What if they knew they were dealing with a primitive species who was prone to violence and territorial behavior and would ultimately destroy ourselves, and were trying to guide us along the right path?

    The US is the most technologically advanced (when it comes to warfare) nation in Earth's history.....have we used that for peace keeping, rather than inciting chaos around the world?

    We can all make all sorts of assumptions and guesses about the potential motivations of hypothetical alien beings and very likely none of us will every know if we were correct or not. It's an amusing thought experiment but that's all it is. However, if someone is going to try to put forward the presence of artifacts on earth as proof of prior alien visitation, then they would be wise to choose items that humans couldn't have produced. Humans have a long history of working stone. These examples are not convincing.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 17,282
    Yes
    While walking the beach with my daughter last night here in Wilmington NC we saw something that puzzled us. She says to me, dad look I looked up and saw something shooting across high in the atmosphere. It looked liked liked a firework or a rocket traveling across the sky at a tremendous speed then just dissipated after about 7 seconds. We looked at each and said what was that?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    Sounds like a lovely evening on the beach with your daughter. Whatever that was, it provoked wonder and a shared experience.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    PJ_Soul said:

    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing. If they were going to bother coming down and building shit, wouldn't they build stuff that is reflective of a society that is that technologically advanced, and then stick around to actually use what they built? I really never understood these alien-built ancient structure theories at all. If they find one made out of solid fucking titanium or something, then I'll consider it, lol.

    Who said aliens built those things??..who said aliens built the pyramids??..all i EVER said, was about knowledge..
    once again..how the Dogon people knows about the third star of Sirius??..
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropa_stones
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 36,209
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    seanwon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing.

    Wrong. What if they knew they were dealing with a primitive species who was prone to violence and territorial behavior and would ultimately destroy ourselves, and were trying to guide us along the right path?

    The US is the most technologically advanced (when it comes to warfare) nation in Earth's history.....have we used that for peace keeping, rather than inciting chaos around the world?

    And what if a huge purple dragon flew out of a crater in one of Jupiter's moons and flew to Earth and vomited rainbows in the sky?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    PJ_Soul said:

    seanwon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing.

    Wrong. What if they knew they were dealing with a primitive species who was prone to violence and territorial behavior and would ultimately destroy ourselves, and were trying to guide us along the right path?

    The US is the most technologically advanced (when it comes to warfare) nation in Earth's history.....have we used that for peace keeping, rather than inciting chaos around the world?

    And what if a huge purple dragon flew out of a crater in one of Jupiter's moons and flew to Earth and vomited rainbows in the sky?
    There's video of that online, too.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,GreecePosts: 9,057
    Yes, and they have visited Earth
    Oftenreading may i ask why don't you vote??..
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 5,854
    23scidoo said:

    Oftenreading may i ask why don't you vote??..

    Because we really have no idea what the answer to that question is, and my opinion has no bearing on that answer.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,028
    Yes

    PJ_Soul said:

    seanwon said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I mean, why would aliens, who have the technology to fly to Earth and build shit there, make relatively clumsy huge monuments out of solid rock anyway? That would be like humans evolving to the point where extensive space travel with a ton of technological hardware, going to another planet, carving out some neat looking caves and walls and shit, and then leaving. There is no reason for any race of people to do such a thing.

    Wrong. What if they knew they were dealing with a primitive species who was prone to violence and territorial behavior and would ultimately destroy ourselves, and were trying to guide us along the right path?

    The US is the most technologically advanced (when it comes to warfare) nation in Earth's history.....have we used that for peace keeping, rather than inciting chaos around the world?

    And what if a huge purple dragon flew out of a crater in one of Jupiter's moons and flew to Earth and vomited rainbows in the sky?
    There's video of that online, too.
    Link or it didn't happen.
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