One reason I believe they never visited is just the physics behind it. Most stars within our galaxy are hundreds if not thousands of light years away. So even if they hopped into the Millennium Falcum it would take lifetimes to travel here. So I would have to believe they have either created a way to travel faster than what is even to believe to be possible making the speed of light seem slow (realizing our fastest speed record is just a very tiny fraction of the speed of light) or their lifespan is so long that they don't mind spending thousands of years in travel (assuming they are still going at light speed) And they have managed to do all that, visit and leave no trace, our let our CIA outsmart them in a coverup.
Or....they just never visited. Which seems more plausible?
We try for space travels for 50-60 years???..what if THEY try for millins years??..
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One reason I believe they never visited is just the physics behind it. Most stars within our galaxy are hundreds if not thousands of light years away. So even if they hopped into the Millennium Falcum it would take lifetimes to travel here. So I would have to believe they have either created a way to travel faster than what is even to believe to be possible making the speed of light seem slow (realizing our fastest speed record is just a very tiny fraction of the speed of light) or their lifespan is so long that they don't mind spending thousands of years in travel (assuming they are still going at light speed) And they have managed to do all that, visit and leave no trace, our let our CIA outsmart them in a coverup.
Or....they just never visited. Which seems more plausible?
We try for space travels for 50-60 years???..what if THEY try for millins years??..
We can't detect any signals from them or detect them...Until they enter our atmosphere and then they are just hovering around in brightly lit Skybuses? Doesn't make sense.
One reason I believe they never visited is just the physics behind it. Most stars within our galaxy are hundreds if not thousands of light years away. So even if they hopped into the Millennium Falcum it would take lifetimes to travel here. So I would have to believe they have either created a way to travel faster than what is even to believe to be possible making the speed of light seem slow (realizing our fastest speed record is just a very tiny fraction of the speed of light) or their lifespan is so long that they don't mind spending thousands of years in travel (assuming they are still going at light speed) And they have managed to do all that, visit and leave no trace, our let our CIA outsmart them in a coverup.
Or....they just never visited. Which seems more plausible?
We try for space travels for 50-60 years???..what if THEY try for millins years??..
Even if they have tried for millions, doesn't change the fact that they'd have to travel at a speed that lakes light travel appear slow to even make it possible. And since light is accepted as the fastest physically possible speed for matter, just doesn't seem possible or likely.
Definitely possible there could be other ways to travel, or faster ways than we can't even conceive. So given the off chance of super-light speed or wormholes, even if those obstacles are overcome, I still believe the odds are small that even if there is other intelligent life and they can travel across galaxies that they would even find us among the billions of stars out there.
The vastness of the universe is absolutely awe inspiring and impossible to even fathom
And at the end of the universe... what is there? If it even ends, can we actually conceptualize an infinite universe with no boundary?
Wow
Yeah, people tend to have trouble with the concept of infinity. Something with no start and no end.... hard to conceive for sure, but definitely not impossible. I personally love the idea of an infinite space, even though it's kind of scary.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.
Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.
UFOs aren't the same as the existence of alien life though, and haunted houses aren't really comparable to the nature of the universe. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm just saying that your comparison doesn't really work unless you really are limiting your comment to "UFOs" as opposed to alien life existing.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.
Wouldn't technically a secret foreign spy plane be a UFO?
Nope. UFO's are grouped in with haunted houses. The fact is is that we are alone and the human mind makes up the hypothetical,so that life isn't as mundane as what it is. But that's just my opinion,believe what you will as will I.
Wouldn't technically a secret foreign spy plane be a UFO?
Well, yeah, but in the context of this thread I think we all understand what he means.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
What if there is a parallel dimension that you get a peek into sometimes? (Who knows when or why) But they aren't alliens from outer space, but actual beings right here next to you in a different dimension. Hmmmm?
What if there is a parallel dimension that you get a peek into sometimes? (Who knows when or why) But they aren't alliens from outer space, but actual beings right here next to you in a different dimension. Hmmmm?
The scientist are talking for 10 dimensions..can you imagine??
One reason I believe they never visited is just the physics behind it. Most stars within our galaxy are hundreds if not thousands of light years away. So even if they hopped into the Millennium Falcum it would take lifetimes to travel here. So I would have to believe they have either created a way to travel faster than what is even to believe to be possible making the speed of light seem slow (realizing our fastest speed record is just a very tiny fraction of the speed of light) or their lifespan is so long that they don't mind spending thousands of years in travel (assuming they are still going at light speed) And they have managed to do all that, visit and leave no trace, our let our CIA outsmart them in a coverup.
Or....they just never visited. Which seems more plausible?
this. if they have the technology to travel here, there's no way our feeble human governments would be able to hide it.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Maybe they have learned how to use worm holes to travel or something. We really can't assume anything about some distant alien life form and what kind of science they are dealing with. It's entirely possible that what's normal to them in completely inconceivable to us. Or that they have billions of years on us, and understand the physics of space in a way we can't even imagine. Humans are forced to apply human knowledge and theories to alien life, but I don't know if that is reasonable in the slightest. We might be extremely primitive lifeforms compared to other lifeforms in the universe, considering how young the Earth is in universe terms.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Maybe they have learned how to use worm holes to travel or something. We really can't assume anything about some distance alien life form and what kind of science they are dealing with. It's entirely possible that what's normal to them in completely inconceivable to us. Or that they have billions of years on us, and understand the physics of space in a way we can't even imagine. Humans are forced to apply human knowledge and theories to alien life, but I don't know if that is reasonable in the slightest. We might be extremely primitive lifeforms compared to other lifeforms in the universe, considering how young the Earth is in universe terms.
absolutely, 100%.
one aspect of aliens as humans see them that has always been funny to me, is the assumption by humans that they look like us. two legs, two arms, head, just smaller bodies and bigger eyes, etc. it is totally conceivable to me that we can't even fucking see them, our eyes can't understand that we are looking at something that is right there. there are many things we know that we can't see with the naked human eye, it's entirely plausible that other living things are one of those things.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Maybe they have learned how to use worm holes to travel or something. We really can't assume anything about some distance alien life form and what kind of science they are dealing with. It's entirely possible that what's normal to them in completely inconceivable to us. Or that they have billions of years on us, and understand the physics of space in a way we can't even imagine. Humans are forced to apply human knowledge and theories to alien life, but I don't know if that is reasonable in the slightest. We might be extremely primitive lifeforms compared to other lifeforms in the universe, considering how young the Earth is in universe terms.
absolutely, 100%.
one aspect of aliens as humans see them that has always been funny to me, is the assumption by humans that they look like us. two legs, two arms, head, just smaller bodies and bigger eyes, etc. it is totally conceivable to me that we can't even fucking see them, our eyes can't understand that we are looking at something that is right there. there are many things we know that we can't see with the naked human eye, it's entirely plausible that other living things are one of those things.
Jackpot!
Just in terms of dimensions, it is very possible that alien life could be 4-dimensional (or even more) beings. We, as humans, have no way of knowing what a 4th physical dimension may look like. We often accept the 4th dimension as "time" but this may not even be true. We can hypothesize, but as 3-dimensionl beings, we will never truly know. Think about a 2-dimension object - a square, for instance. If a 3-dimensional cube were to pass through that square, the square would not be able to interpret the cube's 3rd dimension. It would only ever be able to tell the 2-dimensions intersecting with it. Same as a 1-dimensional line would not be able to interpet the square if the square intersected it, and a ought-dimensional point would not be able to determine the line.
FWIW, my sister, brother in law, and some of their friends were out on a boat in a lake near Winnipeg maybe 5 years ago, and they very uncharacteristically said they all saw a UFO. My sister and especially my bro-in-law who is almost painfully logical and level-headed, are not people to believe in such a thing or humour a fantasy, but they definitely couldn't explain what they saw and it wasn't the kind of sighting that could have been swamp gas or whateverthefuck. They were all totally stunned and freaked out, apparently.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Don't forget the former Canadian Minister of Defense, Paul Hellyer, that's states matter of factly that aliens exist, have visited earth, are here currently, and that it is actively being covered up by governments
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-government10.htm
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
(Who knows when or why) But they aren't alliens from outer space, but actual beings right here next to you in a different dimension. Hmmmm?
http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/what-did-ancients-see-unidentified-flying-objects-made-impact-early-history-021327?nopaging=1
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
-EV 8/14/93
-EV 8/14/93
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
one aspect of aliens as humans see them that has always been funny to me, is the assumption by humans that they look like us. two legs, two arms, head, just smaller bodies and bigger eyes, etc. it is totally conceivable to me that we can't even fucking see them, our eyes can't understand that we are looking at something that is right there. there are many things we know that we can't see with the naked human eye, it's entirely plausible that other living things are one of those things.
-EV 8/14/93
Just in terms of dimensions, it is very possible that alien life could be 4-dimensional (or even more) beings. We, as humans, have no way of knowing what a 4th physical dimension may look like. We often accept the 4th dimension as "time" but this may not even be true. We can hypothesize, but as 3-dimensionl beings, we will never truly know.
Think about a 2-dimension object - a square, for instance. If a 3-dimensional cube were to pass through that square, the square would not be able to interpret the cube's 3rd dimension. It would only ever be able to tell the 2-dimensions intersecting with it. Same as a 1-dimensional line would not be able to interpet the square if the square intersected it, and a ought-dimensional point would not be able to determine the line.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
FWIW, my sister, brother in law, and some of their friends were out on a boat in a lake near Winnipeg maybe 5 years ago, and they very uncharacteristically said they all saw a UFO. My sister and especially my bro-in-law who is almost painfully logical and level-headed, are not people to believe in such a thing or humour a fantasy, but they definitely couldn't explain what they saw and it wasn't the kind of sighting that could have been swamp gas or whateverthefuck. They were all totally stunned and freaked out, apparently.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Governments-HIDING-aliens-claims-former-defence-minister-Paul-Hellyer-urges-world-leaders-reveal-secret-files.html