Do Aliens Exist?

Godfather.

No

catefrances said:

Godfather. said:

where is the edge of the universe ? it is said that the universe keeps expanding but by measurement's of light speed/years....so where is the edge ? and what is out there before the universe expands ? it's not creating new space I don't think ...the universe has to engulf space to add or expand

apparently the big bang created this 'wall' called cosmic microwave background radiation. much like the horizon, which we can not see past (or over as the case may be), everything beyond this wall of radiation is so far away that the light has not reached us yet. then of course one must ask oneself what shape is the universe... is it curved(like earth) or flat?

if the speed of light is constant then I suspect if there are aliens out there(which I don't believe there are) and theyre in other universes, then they could well be in the same boat as us... wondering whether aliens exist.

I have heard of the radiation field or circle, isn't there one around the sun or the moon as well ? and isn't it not possible (for man) to cross or pass thru that field or circle ? and thanks for a great reply.

Godfather.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxxW_kXE3Fk

goldrush

Yes

rr165892 said:

I absolutely think we are not alone.There is a fuck load of universe up there ,and to think we are the Earth has the only living things????Not buying it.

18 months and 30-odd pages later, this is still my favourite argument in this thread. A "fuck load of universe" deserves to be an official scientific unit of measurement!

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/06/10/why-did-nasa-issue-a-1-1-million-grant-to-study-how-alien-life-could-impact-christianity/

JWPearl

Yes, and they have visited Earth

alien life i dont think would impact christianity
while the bible was written for the purpose of law and order for the people and Gods purpose for humans the bible also says that if everything was documented there bible would not be able to contain them all and the bible doesnt go to indepth into the spirit realm as in what God does and how the angels work and the dinosaur age etc etc
but the bible is not there to give us details of the universe but mainly a law book and example book for Gods purpose and will for himself and man
what is beyond that i guess is what we find out in paradise when new scrolls are opened as the bible says
so it does not mean that bc the bible does not contain alien life that there is or isnt any but God does not want his children to go beyond the bible but to focus on the bible on following his laws and understand and subject to his purpose and the rest is possibly a deterrent or distraction that we dont need and could be a reason why it is not mentioned but like i said not to go beyond the book bc the latter is not important for the moment and beside while i believe theres something
its for each individual to process or not but it no way effects christianity bc the bible never stated
anything contradictory it simply didnt say anything on the subject which is no conviction to anything in my opinion...
but i like your daily posts..

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

You don't think if aliens are real, all the religious will collapse???

rgambs

Yes

23scidoo said:

You don't think if aliens are real, all the religious will collapse???

I think human society might collapse lol
Mormons believe in aliens! It's a legit part of their belief system that God made many worlds and many children.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

23scidoo said:

You don't think if aliens are real, all the religious will collapse???

The religions that flourish under the concept that humans are God's only major concern might (which seems to be just about all of them) .... although probably not. Religions are really amazing and bending their bullshit enough to keep people under their thumb.
But yeah, hahaha, the Mormons would just be running around yelling "See?! We told you so!!" Scientologists too.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

PJ_Soul said:

23scidoo said:

You don't think if aliens are real, all the religious will collapse???

The religions that flourish under the concept that humans are God's only major concern might (which seems to be just about all of them) .... although probably not. Religions are really amazing and bending their bullshit enough to keep people under their thumb.
But yeah, hahaha, the Mormons would just be running around yelling "See?! We told you so!!" Scientologists too.

Yea, what about those people(Mormons)..they are fanatics??..

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

23scidoo said:

PJ_Soul said:

23scidoo said:

You don't think if aliens are real, all the religious will collapse???

The religions that flourish under the concept that humans are God's only major concern might (which seems to be just about all of them) .... although probably not. Religions are really amazing and bending their bullshit enough to keep people under their thumb.
But yeah, hahaha, the Mormons would just be running around yelling "See?! We told you so!!" Scientologists too.

Yea, what about those people(Mormons)..they are fanatics??..

There are degrees and fanaticism and lack thereof among Mormons, just like in any other religion. The range is from absolutely fucked (marrying little children off to their uncles, barricaded religious compounds, making their own laws, etc) to kinda sorta normal (families living like normal people, but watch out if they leave the faith - their own parents will excommunicate them). But yeah, the Mormon faith is pretty far out there as Christian-based religions go, since it involves aliens and Jesus in America and shit. It's an American religion - grown in America specifically for Americans, really. Just that alone makes it pretty unusual. But you can't call all Mormons fanatics. Just the fringe Mormons are (and the official Mormon Church has disavowed them).

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

PJ_Soul said:

23scidoo said:

PJ_Soul said:

23scidoo said:

You don't think if aliens are real, all the religious will collapse???

The religions that flourish under the concept that humans are God's only major concern might (which seems to be just about all of them) .... although probably not. Religions are really amazing and bending their bullshit enough to keep people under their thumb.
But yeah, hahaha, the Mormons would just be running around yelling "See?! We told you so!!" Scientologists too.

Yea, what about those people(Mormons)..they are fanatics??..

There are degrees and fanaticism and lack thereof among Mormons, just like in any other religion. The range is from absolutely fucked (marrying little children off to their uncles, barricaded religious compounds, making their own laws, etc) to kinda sorta normal (families living like normal people, but watch out if they leave the faith - their own parents will excommunicate them). But yeah, the Mormon faith is pretty far out there as Christian-based religions go, since it involves aliens and Jesus in America and shit. It's an American religion - grown in America specifically for Americans, really. Just that alone makes it pretty unusual. But you can't call all Mormons fanatics. Just the fringe Mormons are (and the official Mormon Church has disavowed them).

But the ideas they have are ''fanatics''..wired..
this is a relegion like anybody else..take a little bit from here, little bit from there and etc..
what is the truth and what not??..why all, everywhere, anytime, said the same story??..how many ''gods'' are out there??..

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

You're asking the wrong person. I am a staunch Atheist. I think the entire idea of the existence of God is complete nonsense, and belief in God is not just fanatical, but lunatic as well. I consider religion in general to be mass delusion.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

PJ_Soul said:

You're asking the wrong person. I am a staunch Atheist. I think the entire idea of the existence of God is complete nonsense, and belief in God is not just fanatical, but lunatic as well. I consider religion in general to be mass delusion.

My questions was general..

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

23scidoo said:

PJ_Soul said:

You're asking the wrong person. I am a staunch Atheist. I think the entire idea of the existence of God is complete nonsense, and belief in God is not just fanatical, but lunatic as well. I consider religion in general to be mass delusion.

My questions was general..

Maybe ask it in a separate post then instead of quoting and replying to my post and asking.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

https://youtu.be/B2Jl4HNDixc

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

http://ufothetruthisoutthere.blogspot.gr/2016/06/russian-major-general-ufos-are-real-and.html

newy777

The alpha centauri star system has a star with a planet which is the closest known planet to earth. Considering that it is just over 4 light years away, pure logic would lead one to conclude it was impossible for alien life to reach earth. Even the chance of life on that particular planet is a long shot and if there was, it is would be extremely unlikely to be any smarter. There could be another Isaac Newton out there but the chances of Newton being born here were very slim. We would still be in riding horses and carts if it wasn´t for Newton. They would need technology that would defy the laws of physics and thats most probably not possible.Everyone knows if you drop a ball it will fall to the ground everytime. So I would say absolutely no chance of an alien visiting.
Even though we won´t see other lifeforms from far away places it would be incredibly ignorant for humans to say there are no other life out there. Just think about it. In the observable universe there are approx. 200 billion galaxies. This is derived from the ultra deep field photo which was able to detect 10,000+ universes in a section of the sky represented by the tip of pin held at arms length.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field#/media/File:NASA-HS201427a-HubbleUltraDeepField2014-20140603.jpg
Each speck of light in this photo is a universe unless it is dislpaying the diamond effect which would mean it is a distant star in our milky way galxy.
Then consider there are on average 200 billion stars in each of these 200 billion galaxies. We are totally insignicant in the grand picture. So without doubt there is life out there but it may or may not be carbon based. It may be in unthinkable forms. Better left to the imagination..
One of the coolest thing about being alive is knowing that every atom and element in your body was once inside a giant star that had exploded. The elements in our body were firstly cooked up in the fusion process in a star.Then the heavier elements were formed after the most stable element in this nuclear fusion process iron could not proceed in fusion of the remaining heavier elements like gold for example. This is when there is a supernova explosion and the other elementary particles are created through the extreme heat needed. +1 billion degrees

So out there in the countless second generation solar systems there are certainly the ingredients of life that are scattered everywhere. You would have to be crazy to think we are alone.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

newy777 said:

The alpha centauri star system has a star with a planet which is the closest known planet to earth. Considering that it is just over 4 light years away, pure logic would lead one to conclude it was impossible for alien life to reach earth. Even the chance of life on that particular planet is a long shot and if there was, it is would be extremely unlikely to be any smarter. There could be another Isaac Newton out there but the chances of Newton being born here were very slim. We would still be in riding horses and carts if it wasn´t for Newton. They would need technology that would defy the laws of physics and thats most probably not possible.Everyone knows if you drop a ball it will fall to the ground everytime. So I would say absolutely no chance of an alien visiting.
Even though we won´t see other lifeforms from far away places it would be incredibly ignorant for humans to say there are no other life out there. Just think about it. In the observable universe there are approx. 200 billion galaxies. This is derived from the ultra deep field photo which was able to detect 10,000+ universes in a section of the sky represented by the tip of pin held at arms length.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field#/media/File:NASA-HS201427a-HubbleUltraDeepField2014-20140603.jpg
Each speck of light in this photo is a universe unless it is dislpaying the diamond effect which would mean it is a distant star in our milky way galxy.
Then consider there are on average 200 billion stars in each of these 200 billion galaxies. We are totally insignicant in the grand picture. So without doubt there is life out there but it may or may not be carbon based. It may be in unthinkable forms. Better left to the imagination..
One of the coolest thing about being alive is knowing that every atom and element in your body was once inside a giant star that had exploded. The elements in our body were firstly cooked up in the fusion process in a star.Then the heavier elements were formed after the most stable element in this nuclear fusion process iron could not proceed in fusion of the remaining heavier elements like gold for example. This is when there is a supernova explosion and the other elementary particles are created through the extreme heat needed. +1 billion degrees

So out there in the countless second generation solar systems there are certainly the ingredients of life that are scattered everywhere. You would have to be crazy to think we are alone.

No man..they want proofs..nothing else..

rgambs

Yes

23scidoo said:

newy777 said:

The alpha centauri star system has a star with a planet which is the closest known planet to earth. Considering that it is just over 4 light years away, pure logic would lead one to conclude it was impossible for alien life to reach earth. Even the chance of life on that particular planet is a long shot and if there was, it is would be extremely unlikely to be any smarter. There could be another Isaac Newton out there but the chances of Newton being born here were very slim. We would still be in riding horses and carts if it wasn´t for Newton. They would need technology that would defy the laws of physics and thats most probably not possible.Everyone knows if you drop a ball it will fall to the ground everytime. So I would say absolutely no chance of an alien visiting.
Even though we won´t see other lifeforms from far away places it would be incredibly ignorant for humans to say there are no other life out there. Just think about it. In the observable universe there are approx. 200 billion galaxies. This is derived from the ultra deep field photo which was able to detect 10,000+ universes in a section of the sky represented by the tip of pin held at arms length.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field#/media/File:NASA-HS201427a-HubbleUltraDeepField2014-20140603.jpg
Each speck of light in this photo is a universe unless it is dislpaying the diamond effect which would mean it is a distant star in our milky way galxy.
Then consider there are on average 200 billion stars in each of these 200 billion galaxies. We are totally insignicant in the grand picture. So without doubt there is life out there but it may or may not be carbon based. It may be in unthinkable forms. Better left to the imagination..
One of the coolest thing about being alive is knowing that every atom and element in your body was once inside a giant star that had exploded. The elements in our body were firstly cooked up in the fusion process in a star.Then the heavier elements were formed after the most stable element in this nuclear fusion process iron could not proceed in fusion of the remaining heavier elements like gold for example. This is when there is a supernova explosion and the other elementary particles are created through the extreme heat needed. +1 billion degrees

So out there in the countless second generation solar systems there are certainly the ingredients of life that are scattered everywhere. You would have to be crazy to think we are alone.

No man..they want proofs..nothing else..

Perhaps you never noticed how I answered the poll??

I believe in the probability of life across the universe.

I don't believe that even 1/10th of the "evidence" you post about aliens among us is legitimate enough to even be considered.

There's a pretty big middle ground and most of us are in it. Sure, there are folks who see aliens in every ancient artifact, and people who refuse to believe aliens are even a possibility, but those are the outlying opinions.

rgambs

Yes

23scidoo said:

newy777 said:

The alpha centauri star system has a star with a planet which is the closest known planet to earth. Considering that it is just over 4 light years away, pure logic would lead one to conclude it was impossible for alien life to reach earth. Even the chance of life on that particular planet is a long shot and if there was, it is would be extremely unlikely to be any smarter. There could be another Isaac Newton out there but the chances of Newton being born here were very slim. We would still be in riding horses and carts if it wasn´t for Newton. They would need technology that would defy the laws of physics and thats most probably not possible.Everyone knows if you drop a ball it will fall to the ground everytime. So I would say absolutely no chance of an alien visiting.
Even though we won´t see other lifeforms from far away places it would be incredibly ignorant for humans to say there are no other life out there. Just think about it. In the observable universe there are approx. 200 billion galaxies. This is derived from the ultra deep field photo which was able to detect 10,000+ universes in a section of the sky represented by the tip of pin held at arms length.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field#/media/File:NASA-HS201427a-HubbleUltraDeepField2014-20140603.jpg
Each speck of light in this photo is a universe unless it is dislpaying the diamond effect which would mean it is a distant star in our milky way galxy.
Then consider there are on average 200 billion stars in each of these 200 billion galaxies. We are totally insignicant in the grand picture. So without doubt there is life out there but it may or may not be carbon based. It may be in unthinkable forms. Better left to the imagination..
One of the coolest thing about being alive is knowing that every atom and element in your body was once inside a giant star that had exploded. The elements in our body were firstly cooked up in the fusion process in a star.Then the heavier elements were formed after the most stable element in this nuclear fusion process iron could not proceed in fusion of the remaining heavier elements like gold for example. This is when there is a supernova explosion and the other elementary particles are created through the extreme heat needed. +1 billion degrees

So out there in the countless second generation solar systems there are certainly the ingredients of life that are scattered everywhere. You would have to be crazy to think we are alone.

No man..they want proofs..nothing else..

Perhaps you never noticed how I answered the poll??

I believe in the probability of life across the universe.

I don't believe that even 1/10th of the "evidence" you post about aliens among us is legitimate enough to even be considered.

There's a pretty big middle ground and most of us are in it. Sure, there are folks who see aliens in every ancient artifact, and people who refuse to believe aliens are even a possibility, but those are the outlying opinions.