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Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,830
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Should have been played in NYC, Chicago or somewhere in the states. I've watched 4 different videos, there was NOT any sort of reaction when the song started. As Gordon Ramsay would say, "It's a shame"
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  • flofischlflofischl Posts: 29
    No rarities allowed in Europe.....whats that all about? The band has been touring Europe since 92. I was not in Oslo but I am happy for the folks that got it. You win some, you lose some...unpredictable is what this band is all about, and its something we all love about them. So let's keep it that way.
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,830
    Has nothing to do with that. When they busted out Leash again in 2006 in Boston, the crowd went bonkers before Eddie sang the first verse. This Oslo crowd had no clue what the song was, let alone hearing it live for the 1st time ever. Boo.
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,830
    edited June 2014
    And a rarity is a song that is played rarely. This was a first edition and I personally don't think it was appreciated for how special it was. P.S. Did Ed bring 2nd shirt to the European shows? I actually love Walter more than most so I really hope this jersey makes it to Denver
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  • flofischlflofischl Posts: 29
    I see what you mean and I experienced more than one of these situations at some of these Europe shows. I doubt the band puts as much thought into things like that as we do. And there is actually a story behind Strangest Tribe in Europe, going back to a fan sign some shows back, I believe Trieste. I guess that's how it got rolling...and then played in Oslo. They have been playing requests almost on a nightly basis, this falls in that drawer as well, even if more special due to the debut nature of it. Ed wore the jersey in Amsterdam I believe, and also in Berlin..and I guess Oslo so I guess he likes it...you got good chances.
  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    :)) :)) :))

    I've read some stupid threads on here but this has to top them all
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  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,830
    edited June 2014
    boyo79 said:

    :)) :)) :))

    I've read some stupid threads on here but this has to top them all

    Alright, I won something!!!!!! Go 'Merica!
    And on a real note I don't see how you can be against my thought. People have been on this forum for YEARS begging for Strangest Tribe live. An example; "My oven died last week, please play Strangest Tribe when you come next week, Mary in Toronto." Anyway Youtube has the footage, only like 4-5 people were excited. Ed feeds off that, remember that fan in Vancouver a few years ago that he screamed at? The reaction of that crowd was worse in my opinion. Its not a personal thing since I never expected them to play it at a show I could be at but I expected them to play it at a show where the crowd would APPRECIATE it.
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  • RoelandRoeland Posts: 177
    Foriginal Sin said:

    boyo79 said:

    :)) :)) :))

    I've read some stupid threads on here but this has to top them all

    Alright, I won something!!!!!! Go 'Merica!
    And on a real note I don't see how you can be against my thought. People have been on this forum for YEARS begging for Strangest Tribe live. An example; "My oven died last week, please play Strangest Tribe when you come next week, Mary in Toronto." Anyway Youtube has the footage, only like 4-5 people were excited. Ed feeds off that, remember that fan in Vancouver a few years ago that he screamed at? The reaction of that crowd was worse in my opinion. Its not a personal thing since I never expected them to play it at a show I could be at but I expected them to play it at a show where the crowd would APPRECIATE it.
    Why wouldn't the crowd have appreciated it yesterday? 99% of the crowd didn't know the song because it's an obscure Christmas song that was never played live before. The people who did know the song, showed a reaction, others stayed silent, I don't see how that shows any misappreciation. Playing only the standard songs when the crowd isn't filled with hardcore fans like in MSG or the Gorge, would make for pretty boring tours imo.
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,830
    Yeah, the only hardcore fans are at the Gorge (never been) or MSG (hopefully never will be in NY) Try anywhere in Philly, Florida, California, Texas, Chicago, Milwaukee, Phoenix (yes the same Phoenix that they never saw in 10 years but Ed keep playing fantasy ball with the Cubs and eventually played Bee Girl and Around the Bend to everyone's surprise, That's appreciation.)
    The point is that if 99% of the crowd didn't appreciate it, than it SHOULD NOT have been played.
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  • RoelandRoeland Posts: 177
    Where do you get that 99% didn't appreciate it? If you want to argue that more people would have known the song if they played it in the us, everyone would agree. But knowing it has nothing to do with appreciating it and certainly not with deserving to hear a song. What does tbe deserrving part even mean? People who only know Alive, Black and betterman are not worthy to be at the show as they don't show any reaction when another song starts?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,763
    99% of any crowd doesn't react to rarities...thats why they aren't played all that often
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  • steinbasteinba Posts: 110
    Foriginal Sin said:

    This Oslo crowd had no clue what the song was, let alone hearing it live for the 1st time ever. Boo.

    Sure. We're just a bunch of ignorant morons up here. :P

    I can't believe some people.

  • steinbasteinba Posts: 110
    I can assure you that the local fans talked about little else in the morning hours on Facebook, at least.

    "Waiting On A Friend" was pretty cool too, btw. And, "Satan's Bed". I was hoping for Crazy Mary and Chloe/Crown myself, but I'm not too bummed. ;)
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    NYC, Chicago, and almost any place in the 'Merica outside of a fan club only show would not have gotten a reaction to that song.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    pjsteelerfan said:

    NYC, Chicago, and almost any place in the 'Merica outside of a fan club only show would not have gotten a reaction to that song.

    I think it would have gotten a decent reaction from the 10C GA/Reserved sections...much more than what the video from Oslo appears to show.

    That being said: they played it in Oslo. Can't change that fact.
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  • steinbasteinba Posts: 110
    edited June 2014
    Thing is... There wasn't any "golden circle" in Oslo. The 10C members were spread around the crowd, but there's a good possibility that there was a higher concentration in the front rows. ;)
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  • SchmaktSchmakt Charlotte Posts: 207
    steinba said:

    Thing is... There wasn't any "golden circle" in Oslo. The 10C members were spread around the crowd, but there's a good possibility that there was a higher concentration in the front rows. ;)

    That's what I was going to say... before the show even started the front area was no longer 10C only... "deserved" seems like such an odd word to use in this context anyway...
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,079
    Foriginal Sin said:

    Should have been played in NYC, Chicago or somewhere in the states. I've watched 4 different videos, there was NOT any sort of reaction when the song started. As Gordon Ramsay would say, "It's a shame"

    It's a shame you'd suggest that when the band was clearly proud of their performance (Ed went over to Stone and acknowledged him) and even managed to execute the song flawlessly.

    The seasoned band follower will tell you it's often the "less deserving" cities that see some of the greatest shows/sets/rarities. It's no coincidence.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,763
    Seems like pearl jam, the guys actually playing the music and making up the set list, thought Oslo deserved it. Maybe blame stone?
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  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    the entitlement continues
  • bluegracebluegrace Posts: 2,357
    Of course Olso "deserved" Strangest Tribe, anything else is just silly.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    PJ plays a lot of shows. They bust out songs all over the place, and you can't possibly go to every show to catch them all. I've seen my share of crazy rarities, and I've missed several along the way. I am jealous of Strangest Tribe, but what can you do? Saying Oslo didn't deserve it is just sour grapes. Get over it.
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  • London BridgeLondon Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    What's all the fuss about? The song isn't that good anyway. I doubt it gets played live again.
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    London Bridge said:

    What's all the fuss about? The song isn't that good anyway. I doubt it gets played live again.

    It will get played again for sure.

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  • steinbasteinba Posts: 110
    mcgruff10 said:

    Seems like pearl jam, the guys actually playing the music and making up the set list, thought Oslo deserved it. Maybe blame stone?

    The show was amazing! Must have-bootleg for sure! They're apparently recording everything from the big screens this tour, so I'm hoping for "official" video bootlegs! :)

  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,543
    mcgruff10 said:

    Seems like pearl jam, the guys actually playing the music and making up the set list, thought Oslo deserved it. Maybe blame stone?

    Yep. Its Stone's fault.
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  • EnterThanmanEnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    boyo79 said:

    :)) :)) :))

    I've read some stupid threads on here but this has to top them all

    Beat me to it.

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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    edited June 2014
    Let's not act as if there's a huge reaction to other really rare songs. Even if there is big 10c turnout a song like Strangest Tribe is never gonna get a huge reaction. Not everybody follows every setlist and even if they did, it's not a song for everybody.

    Comparing it to Leash is pretty off base. People that don't even know that song are gonna get drawn in just from the high energy nature.

    I saw Bee Girl in Boston and there wasn't some huge reaction, so maybe PJ should quit playing rare songs there.
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  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,052
    I thought it got the best reaction tbh, the boot is going to sounds so good without all the whooping and shit that drowns out a lot of their other acoustic performances...it seemed to fit perfectly with the Viking history of Oslo too.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,348
    Foriginal Sin said:

    Has nothing to do with that. When they busted out Leash again in 2006 in Boston, the crowd went bonkers before Eddie sang the first verse. This Oslo crowd had no clue what the song was, let alone hearing it live for the 1st time ever. Boo.

    And when they played Undone in Boston back in 2010, much of the crowd looked around wondering what song was playing.

    Leash is a bad comparison. While it may have become rare, it was still on their second album which was released at the height of their popularity. The number of people familiar with Strangest Tribe is not comparable to the number of people familiar with Leash.

    Good for Oslo. They did deserve it.
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  • whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    edited June 2014
    i don't even know where to begin with that one. congratulations Oslo.
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