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I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
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I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat? https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns". Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection. There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.
I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat? https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns". Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection. There is a small minority of far leftists that do not.
For the overwhelming majority of gun control advocates, the issue isn't 'firearms for self protection'... it's 'what type of firearm for protection'.
The line as it stands right now isn't great for the public in my mind. The risks assumed by the public allowing widespread ownership of handguns and assault rifles outweighs their level of usefulness in a home defence scenario where a shotgun can offer the same protection.
I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat? https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns". Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection. There is a small minority of far leftists that do not.
For the overwhelming majority of gun control advocates, the issue isn't 'firearms for self protection'... it's 'what type of firearm for protection'.
The line as it stands right now isn't great for the public in my mind. The risks assumed by the public allowing widespread ownership of handguns and assault rifles outweighs their level of usefulness in a home defence scenario where a shotgun can offer the same protection.
I get what you're saying, but that was not the message that the previous poster conveyed. He/she eluded to "2nd Ammendment supporters" in general and mentioned none of your specific considerations. And also to mention, there are plenty of articles out there regarding the pros/cons of shotguns, pistols, semi-auto rifles out there for home defense. It is really completely dependent on the individual and their living situations. There is no "one size fits all". Do a little research if you are interested.
I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat? https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns". Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection. There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.
Just so we have this squared away. The right uses 2A to rile up it's base. The White House Chief of Staff comes out and explicitly states they have looked at changing 1A. My point was: where is all the patriotic outrage from the right here? None....crickets.
And you helpfully pointed me to a Conservative website, which has an article which may as well have read "crickets".
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I don't see what your link has to do with the 2nd Amendment...?? Do you think that only Trump voters support gun ownership rights? Maybe this post would be more fit for the "Donald Trump" thread...
Point being, 2A is used to rile up the base. Trump's White House Chief of Staff comes out in an interview and explicitly states they are interested in re-writing 1A and.....crickets.
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
Maybe people are not overly concerned of the threat? https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns". Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection. There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.
Just so we have this squared away. The right uses 2A to rile up it's base. The White House Chief of Staff comes out and explicitly states they have looked at changing 1A. My point was: where is all the patriotic outrage from the right here? None....crickets.
And you helpfully pointed me to a Conservative website, which has an article which may as well have read "crickets".
So you are attacking a link that isn't near as right leaning as the far left leaning page you linked? Where is the outrage from the left on this issue other than one or two random far left leaning websites. What it boils down to is a non-issue at the moment. It is something that will most likely not transpire to anything substantive. If it does, then you will probably get your so sought after public outrage and protests. Until then, you should probably stop freaking out about every headline that your favorite far left "news" click bait site posts...for your own health and sanity.
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I have no problem with what happened because this worked out well- except for the original shooter of course.
But... the story says after the guy was shot... he lied there shooting random shots at the door. What if the only intended victim was the manager? It seems to be a targeted attack by description. And what if the guy had intended to flee after shooting the manager... got shot... and then began shooting random shots that were hitting patrons?
I have no problem with what happened because this worked out well- except for the original shooter of course.
But... the story says after the guy was shot... he lied there shooting random shots at the door. What if the only intended victim was the manager? It seems to be a targeted attack by description. And what if the guy had intended to flee after shooting the manager... got shot... and then began shooting random shots that were hitting patrons?
I have no problem with what happened because this worked out well- except for the original shooter of course.
But... the story says after the guy was shot... he lied there shooting random shots at the door. What if the only intended victim was the manager? It seems to be a targeted attack by description. And what if the guy had intended to flee after shooting the manager... got shot... and then began shooting random shots that were hitting patrons?
To me... this story is fool's gold somewhat.
Whatever you say...
Yesss!
I win. Gun debate over.
Aaahh. Now time to just kind of sit back and really, really relax.
It was a lot of work, but gawddammit... it was worth it.
Aaah. Just sit back and relax. Maybe brag to the wife or something too.
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2 people shot and killed. How is this a good thing? Or in defense of guns?
It looks like someone with mental health problems who wasn't getting the help they needed. Who probably shouldn't have had access to a gun in the first place. Now the bartender's dead and the shooter will likely be up to his neck in legal fees for the inevitable wrongful death lawsuit.
Do you really point to this as an example of how guns make society is better? Because it isn't. What is the matter with you ammosexuals?
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There's no such thing as an assault rifle. Everyone should have guns. The police shouldn't be militarized. The police don't do enough to stop gangs. The police shouldn't profile and violate the rights of American citizens. The police know where the gangs are they should just go round everybody up.
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https://bearingarms.com/beth-b/2017/04/28/nypd-officers-gun-scheme/
...how's that protest vote working out for you...???
If the 2A supporters were actually the patriots they claim to be, there would be armed marches and protests in DC. But they're not. They are spineless xenophobic deplorables clinging to religion and guns. Everyone else and every other amendment be damned.
And really....aren't they all Trump threads at this point?
https://reason.com/blog/2017/05/01/no-trump-wont-change-the-first-amendment
Once again, 2nd A supporters are not composed of only "spineless xenophobic deplorable clinging to religion and guns". Most stats that I've read show that a high majority of most demographics in the US support individual rights to own firearms for self-protection. There is only a small minority of far leftists that do not.
The line as it stands right now isn't great for the public in my mind. The risks assumed by the public allowing widespread ownership of handguns and assault rifles outweighs their level of usefulness in a home defence scenario where a shotgun can offer the same protection.
And also to mention, there are plenty of articles out there regarding the pros/cons of shotguns, pistols, semi-auto rifles out there for home defense. It is really completely dependent on the individual and their living situations. There is no "one size fits all". Do a little research if you are interested.
The right uses 2A to rile up it's base.
The White House Chief of Staff comes out and explicitly states they have looked at changing 1A.
My point was: where is all the patriotic outrage from the right here? None....crickets.
And you helpfully pointed me to a Conservative website, which has an article which may as well have read "crickets".
Yet this same website is using 2A scare tactics to drum up revenue:
If You Care About the Second Amendment—And Incredibly Terrible Reporting That's Biased Against Guns—Support Reason!
ftfa: "One good reason to support Reason's journalism is that in a world of knee-jerk media and politicians, we don't immediately use every current event as fodder to simply push a longstanding agenda."
lol
But... the story says after the guy was shot... he lied there shooting random shots at the door. What if the only intended victim was the manager? It seems to be a targeted attack by description. And what if the guy had intended to flee after shooting the manager... got shot... and then began shooting random shots that were hitting patrons?
To me... this story is fool's gold somewhat.
I win. Gun debate over.
Aaahh. Now time to just kind of sit back and really, really relax.
It was a lot of work, but gawddammit... it was worth it.
Aaah. Just sit back and relax. Maybe brag to the wife or something too.
You have one too.
I am on it.
It looks like someone with mental health problems who wasn't getting the help they needed. Who probably shouldn't have had access to a gun in the first place. Now the bartender's dead and the shooter will likely be up to his neck in legal fees for the inevitable wrongful death lawsuit.
Do you really point to this as an example of how guns make society is better? Because it isn't. What is the matter with you ammosexuals?
how you all feelin about the prolifiation of assault weapons amongst the Chicago gangs epidemic? Colt 45 aside?
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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Everyone should have guns.
The police shouldn't be militarized.
The police don't do enough to stop gangs.
The police shouldn't profile and violate the rights of American citizens.
The police know where the gangs are they should just go round everybody up.
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
George Orwell, 1949