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SEVENS vinyls: thinner than ever...

picolapicola Posts: 40
edited January 2014 in The Porch
Hi,

Sevens boxset was in my mailbox today.

What a surprise to discover another cheap set of records ...

Since 2011, all Xmas singles are very thin, thinner than any previous Xmas (even those from 1991...). I was upset by that but I haven't complained about that, because they were xmas gifts ( membership's gifts that we pay each year lol, ...)

This time, it's a different story, for a boxset that cost 55$ , with a presale 3 months before any shipping, PJ clearly makes fun of us.

Thank you guys.
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    edited January 2014
    Sell it. Make a nice $300+ profit off your initial $55 investment. And then go listen to the exact same songs on a nice thick 180G album.

    or Keep it and enjoy the artwork and listen to some of the tracks in 45 rpm.
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  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    MedozK said:

    Sell it. Make a nice $300+ profit off your initial $55 investment. And then go listen to the exact same songs on a nice thick 180G album.

    or Keep it and enjoy the artwork and listen to some of the tracks in 45 rpm.

    For the price sevens is going for you could even make it 180 gram Red vinyl!

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    You paid $55 for music you could already hear in multiple formats. There are a lot of people laughing about that.
  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    @Medozk : i don't care about my 55$, but i have to talk about the value that they put on it..
  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    @bootlegger10 : i collect PJ vinyls since the beginning. It has nothing to do with the multiple formats available. I think that you can understand that.
  • mrk2mrk2 Posts: 2,066
    bootlegger10 said:

    You paid $55 for music you could already hear in multiple formats. There are a lot of people laughing about that.

    Laughing or jealous?

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  • jamesbennettiiijamesbennettiii Posts: 40
    bootlegger10 said:

    You paid $55 for music you could already hear in multiple formats. There are a lot of people laughing about that.

    While I get your point, one could also just download it, and never pay for it. Collector's aren't ALL about just hearing stuff, eh?
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,680
    edited January 2014
    Weight is overhyped honestly and is really a marketing ploy to new members of the community.. Some of my best records are 140g and they blow away the so called 180g audiophile versions of the same album. Why? Because of stuff like mastering and pressing and plates and etc etc.

    180 g does have its true advantages but most albums being pressed these days arent going to bring them out. To its credit Sevens sounds a little better than my replacement LB.
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  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    edited January 2014
    @cp3iverson : true, but a very thin vinyl record will be destroyed by your phono cartridge only after a few spins ... and these records are way thinner than 140g ...
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  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    Well, I don't know if it works ! But I don't want to quote everything, everytime
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,548
    Whats the difference between the old singles and sevens??how many grams we are talking about?
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  • Empty GlassEmpty Glass Posts: 12,329
    mrk2 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    You paid $55 for music you could already hear in multiple formats. There are a lot of people laughing about that.

    Laughing or jealous?

    Laughing from this guy, for sure

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    How many kilos are we talking about here folks? Just .....how.....many?
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  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    OK great ...

    but i don't want to hear people singing STBCircle or people saying that vinyls are super cool, etc. if you don't care about the vinyl itself.

  • TM193128TM193128 Posts: 25
    Always ends in argueing. bottom line .......Vinyl rocks, if you dont like it ...cool..... if you like to save $55 also Cool. But perhaps in the future keep it to yourself.... That would be especially cool
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,236
    OP, I'm seeking an opened one. Please PM me if you don't want to keep yours!!
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    mine is still sealed
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    mrk2 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    You paid $55 for music you could already hear in multiple formats. There are a lot of people laughing about that.

    Laughing or jealous?

    I own a copy. I'm saying that we deserve to be made fun of for paying for something we already have access.
  • H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Posts: 1,596
    I certainly don't promote or partake in flipping of PJ vinyl. But i do kind of regret not buying this when i had the option to do just that and make an easy 200$...
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,831
    picola said:

    @bootlegger10 : i collect PJ vinyls since the beginning. It has nothing to do with the multiple formats available. I think that you can understand that.

    I understand the collecting. The point being that it shouldn't matter whether thick or thin vinyl since it is just a collectors items and valuable due to rarity and not condition. At least that is my opinion. I don't understand people buying this to listen to when they have a much more convenient 180g vinyl with all of the songs on one record.
  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    edited January 2014
    bootlegger10 said:

    I don't understand people buying this to listen to when they have a much more convenient 180g vinyl with all of the songs on one record.

    I understand.

    but : because of that, 10C is allowed to provide really poor copies ?? or should they anyway make a great object, mainly if it's collectors ??

  • picolapicola Posts: 40
    We all have just to compare our Benaroya LP and this Sevens boxset.

    same price, but one was really a true great gift to collectors and the other one is a poor record....

    They write the same price on it. That says a lot.
  • whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    picola said:

    We all have just to compare our Benaroya LP and this Sevens boxset.

    same price, but one was really a true great gift to collectors and the other one is a poor record....

    They write the same price on it. That says a lot.

    sevens was more than benaroya hall
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870
    whofeelslikeadrank said:

    picola said:

    We all have just to compare our Benaroya LP and this Sevens boxset.

    same price, but one was really a true great gift to collectors and the other one is a poor record....

    They write the same price on it. That says a lot.

    sevens was more than benaroya hall
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  • MedozKMedozK Posts: 9,209
    edited January 2014
    picola said:

    one was really a true great gift to collectors and the other one is a poor record....

    Are you saying the Sevens set is "poor", because It will degrade slightly quicker than a thicker vinyl? Are there more negatives associated to a thinner vinyl?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870
    I don't even care. I will always buy every piece of vinyl that Pearl Jam puts out, and be 100% glad that I did. :D I am a collector of Pearl Jam vinyl. Of course I'm happy I have Sevens.
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  • AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,234
    picola said:

    We all have just to compare our Benaroya LP and this Sevens boxset.

    same price, but one was really a true great gift to collectors and the other one is a poor record....

    They write the same price on it. That says a lot.

    pressing 7 records versus 4 is more expensive. demand for vinyl ten years ago also wasn't what it is today. demand = +$$$$. pressing plants charge more than they did ten years ago. that cost is passed on to us.

    taking that into account, and considering how many were pressed and what 10c could have actually sold them for given the aftermarket prices we're seeing, i'll say it was a bargain we were able to buy sevens for "only" $55. if receiving thinner than normal records was a consequence of that, so be it.
  • jshinjshin Posts: 1,759
    Thin! So thin that four of them are transparent..
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870
    Just wondering why anyone cares if they are thin. I haven't seen anyone say they sound bad, so who gives a shit?
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