Oasis-Don't Believe the Truth official thread

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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,911
    I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.

    i think that Lyla is one of the weaker tracks off of the album. good album though. my favorite as of now is track 8, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • kdpjam
    kdpjam Posts: 2,303
    i just got the cd and i must say i think it is really good. not sure which song is my favorite yet. will let it sink in a bit. flows really well and is awesome, imo. ;)
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    PJammin' wrote:
    i think that Lyla is one of the weaker tracks off of the album. good album though. my favorite as of now is track 8, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.
    yeh i think so too...for me its the second worse track.
    Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro
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  • I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.

    I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.


    their music isn't intellectual at all (although some of noel's lyrics are preddy good) but if you want good songwriting (albeit ripping off the beatles and stones lol) then noel is your man. one of the best of his generation........

    heathen chemistry seems to get a bit of a bad rap but its preddy good i reckon. songs like songbird, little by little and stop crying your heart out are very good IMO.
    The wind is blowing cold
    Have we lost our way tonight?
    Have we lost our hope to sorrow?

    Feels like were all alone
    Running further from what’s right
    And there are no more heroes to follow

    So what are we becoming?
    Where did we go wrong?
  • I used to be a big Oasis fan back in 95-6, but I've gone off them more recently. I don't find their music very intelligent or inspiring.

    I have heard Lyla once though, and it seems like a pretty good song to me.

    well that is true, oasis are certainly not that deep like say tori amos or the cure are deep but that's a good thing because the songs are catchy and stick in your head and that makes for an enjoyable band. if i just picked my music based on the intelligence of lyrics, i probably would get bored and miss out on a lot of cool bands.
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  • glasshouse
    glasshouse Posts: 1,762
    close this thread so that we can start to reserve some credibility once more. then we can deposit this credibility in an account that provides compound interest for the "act against established mediocricy".
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  • kdpjam
    kdpjam Posts: 2,303
    is listening to the cd as i type. :) so far my two faves are keep the dream alive and turn up the sun.
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    kdpjam wrote:
    is listening to the cd as i type. :) so far my two faves are keep the dream alive and turn up the sun.
    http://www.savefile.com/filehost/files.php?fid=6299548
    heres a link to Turn Up the Sun Live from Brussels
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  • kdpjam
    kdpjam Posts: 2,303
    AxlUlrich wrote:
    http://www.savefile.com/filehost/files.php?fid=6299548
    heres a link to Turn Up the Sun Live from Brussels

    thanks!!!!
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    kdpjam wrote:
    thanks!!!!
    yeh they had the whole show on stream at some belgian radio site..sadly this is only bit of it i could find
    Don't Believe The Truth has debuted at No.1 in the UK smashing other major release by The Black Eyed Peas which came in at No.4. Gorillaz falls to No.2.

    Whats The Story Morning Glory has jumped 11 places to No.27, Definitely Maybe jumps 19 places to No.48 and Heathen Chemistry is No. 68.

    not bad...older albums are still on the UK charts :D
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  • AxlUlrich wrote:
    Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is a great song..but i wished the outro could have started a new verse to song instead of just being an outro

    Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.

    I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.

    I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.

    Best on the album in my humble opinion...
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    Totally agree - I said the same in a post earlier in this thread.

    I think all of Liam's songs are too short but that one could really have done with the heavy outro continuing for a bit. As I said before, a missed opportunity.

    I'm still amazed by Keep The Dream Alive. What's even more surprising is that it's an Andy Bell-penned track.

    Best on the album in my humble opinion...
    i kinda enjoy Andy Bell's tunes more than Gem's...im not that much a fan of Eyeball Tickler..but A Bell Will Ring is pretty good
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  • AxlUlrich wrote:
    i kinda enjoy Andy Bell's tunes more than Gem's...im not that much a fan of Eyeball Tickler..but A Bell Will Ring is pretty good


    I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.

    I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.

    Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.

    Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    I agree Gem's aren't the best but they are ok. If anything, A Bell Will Ring should be longer too.

    I get the feeling that 4/5 of the songs off Truth have been finished in a slap-dash manner. It's almost as though (especially with Liam's songs) they couldn't be arsed writing a middle 8 or a bridge and just thought sod it that'll do - hence many songs are 3 minutes or under.

    Don't get me wrong though - I still like the album and am giving it massive airplay in Casa Poison.

    Can't believe I am conversing in a civil manner with a Liverpool fan...
    yeh the songs were abit too short...but for The Meaning of Soul..i think the length for that was just about right.

    another Evertonian? lol
    thought blue mosquito was the only one here
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  • AxlUlrich wrote:
    yeh the songs were abit too short...but for The Meaning of Soul..i think the length for that was just about right.

    another Evertonian? lol
    thought blue mosquito was the only one here

    I agree with Meaning of Soul because that's the kind of song it is.

    However, we are already in agreement about Guess God Thinks I'm Abel and I reckon A Bell Will Ring and Love Like A Bomb could be longer too.

    It just seems to me that when you buy an album with 11 songs on, you expect it to be longer than 43 minutes.

    Maybe there should have been an extra song on it.

    I am indeed an Evertonian.

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  • DocChicago
    DocChicago Posts: 653
    I may be wrong, but there appear to be a lot more keyboards on this album than in previous ones. It will be interesting to see if they include them in live versions. I haven't listened to that live version of "Turn Up the Sun" yet. Do they have some hired gun playing the keys?

    I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    DocChicago wrote:
    I may be wrong, but there appear to be a lot more keyboards on this album than in previous ones. It will be interesting to see if they include them in live versions. I haven't listened to that live version of "Turn Up the Sun" yet. Do they have some hired gun playing the keys?

    I'm getting amped to see them in Mass later this month.
    if im not wrong..since the Morning Glory days..they have had a guy playing keys
    just read that this album is the first UK band album to hit number 1 in Japan since the Bay City Rollers in 1977! not too bad :D
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  • pushmepullme
    pushmepullme Posts: 255
    My mate loves oasis. but he says this album is shit.
    i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.
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  • DocChicago
    DocChicago Posts: 653
    My mate loves oasis. but he says this album is shit.
    i, however, think all their songs are shit, every single one of them.

    Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
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  • AxlUlrich
    AxlUlrich Posts: 12,652
    DocChicago wrote:
    Wonderful! Another one of these comments! You and glasshouse and the rest of the shit talkers can go post in the "hatred and vitriol" thread and pat yourselves on the back. We'll continue discussing this album over here. Thanks for your contribution.
    lol theres too much hate in this board..all i see are threads and polls about which band,singer etc who is the most hated...now its why hate coldplay and U2...im not a fan of most bands people like here..but you dont see me going to a Coldplay thread and saying they suck.
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