Oasis-Don't Believe the Truth official thread

AxlUlrich

just got the album..wow..huge improvement from the previous two albums.
i got the UK version with the dvd and book-like packaging..
so far my favorite tracks are Part of the Queue and The Importance of Being Idle
the dvd has nothing much though..just the EPK which can be found easily online..and the Lyla video..but pretty neat packaging
And yes the sleeve has all the lyrics

HilaryJam

ive been listening to it all weekend on their website. those are good tracks for sure. lyla has grown on me quite a bit too, so now i love it evn more than i first did.

Obi Once

just bought it (listened to it on my mp3 a few times) and really really like it! as u said a huge improvement on the latter album(s)!

so far i cant name any track s that i aprticularly like but the overall sound it good.

AxlUlrich

one bad thing though is i felt the album is too short...the short tracks were too short!
but damn this cd is gonna be on my player for a long long time

Starfucker

Lyla is a blatant ripoff of "street Fighting Man".

Goatboy

Starfucker wrote:

Lyla is a blatant ripoff of "street Fighting Man".

i love the new oasis album and the song "lyla" but your right on this one. the main verse of lyla is a complete and total ripoff of street fighting man no doubt about it. this is nothing new for oasis, they've had lots of ripoff type songs. i still like them though.

El Riot Actor

Allright! So tomorrow is the day i get my copy of the new Oasis.....woooo hoooo! I dont mind the last two records, but ii guess they could have been much better, especially Heathen Chemestry. So it will be nice to get another kick ass Oasis album.

AxlUlrich

icarus wrote:

the first line is similar but thats about it, dont see how its a blatant ripoff besides that first line

my thoughts exactly..
so far Lyla seems to be the worse track on the album

glasshouse

1. take the beatles
2. slice out 75% of their collective brains
3. let them write some new stuff (with their newly found ingenius)
4. add a pussy for a frontman who thinks he's bigger than Jesus..........

and whala

1+2+3+4 = oasis

once again this album is just absolute proof of their incapability to do anything but rip off previous well worked efforts

it's to die for.

brain of c

i'll pick this one up today.

D Lo Brown

glasshouse wrote:

1. take the beatles
2. slice out 75% of their collective brains
3. let them write some new stuff (with their newly found ingenius)
4. add a pussy for a frontman who thinks he's bigger than Jesus..........

and whala

1+2+3+4 = oasis

once again this album is just absolute proof of their incapability to do anything but rip off previous well worked efforts

it's to die for.

1. Read an article in any music magazine from 1996 about Oasis.
2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas
3. Repeat.

Swallow Poison

Admittedly this is only after 4 listens but I am a tad disappointed.

I am a big fan and have been since 94, so please don't accuse me of being an Oasis hater, but I think the new album is a bit of a let down.

I've read nothing but 4 star reviews, so perhaps my expectation levels were unreasonably high.

Turn Up The Sun is FAR too slow.

I find Mucky Fingers irritating.

Lyla is very good though.

Love Like a Bomb is decent enough.

The Importance of Being Idle is essentially The Coral, and I can't stand them, so this one does nothing for me.

The Meaning of Soul is ok.

Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is very good but what a waste at the end! I thought it was all going to kick off for an extended jam or heavy section and all of a sudden it just ends! I know some may think that is the song's charm, but it smacks more of a missed opportunity to me.

I can't remember anything about Part Of The Queue and Keep The Dream Alive, so they certainly haven't captured my imagination.

A Bell Will Ring is Oasis-By-Numbers but still pretty good nonetheless.

Let There Be Love is excellent. There must have been a huge temptation to roll out the 48 piece orchestra and have 3 key changes a la All Around The World but they thankfully and wisely chose to do something a bit different and more lo-fi with the inevitable flag-waving closer. Diversity is not usually one of Oasis's strong points, so I was quite glad when I heard this one.

Overall though, I'd give it 3 stars. No more, no less.

I think some reviewers are so glad to have them back so they can write about them, that this has influenced their opinions.

Each to their own though...

Swallow Poison

D Lo Brown wrote:

1. Read an article in any music magazine from 1996 about Oasis.
2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas
3. Repeat.

Touche Mr Brown. Touche...

That has to be one of the funniest, yet truthful ripostes I have seen on these boards.

I also enjoyed your online battle of verbatim with Mr Starf*cker concerning U2.

Keep up the good work...

glasshouse

D Lo Brown wrote:

2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas

hate to break it to you, but i'm capable of reaching these conclusions without having to read an article about oasis.
i just need to listen to their music.
the proof of the pudding is in the eating isn't it?

D Lo Brown wrote:

1. Read an article in any music magazine from 1996 about Oasis.
2. Try to pass off writers' opinions as your own ideas

where can i get a copy of all those articles dubbing oasis beatles rip offs?
so i'm not alone in this opinion? i'm actually being backed up by musical critics...mmmm cool

D Lo Brown

glasshouse wrote:

hate to break it to you, but i'm capable of reaching these conclusions without having to read an article about oasis.
i just need to listen to their music.
the proof of the pudding is in the eating isn't it?


where can i get a copy of all those articles dubbing oasis beatles rip offs?
so i'm not alone in this opinion? i'm actually being backed up by musical critics...mmmm cool

news flash: the band ADMITTED years ago they try to emulate the Beatles. And even Liam will admit that he's an asshole.

Your "conclusion" that you're so proud of ranks right up there with concluding that water is wet and the sky is blue.

Thanks for contributing.

glasshouse

D Lo Brown wrote:

news flash: the band ADMITTED years ago they try to emulate the Beatles. And even Liam will admit that he's an asshole.

let me get this right.
i'm saying that the beatles are oasis rip offs and that goldplated dildo is a Liam
and you, john lennon, blue water and the wet sky seems to agree

i'm not confused anymore
thanks for clearing up that murky cloud

El Riot Actor

I just got the new Oasis.... i just heard it once, i'm more into the 2nd half of the cd. My version came with 5 live songs from 1994 icluding:
rock n roll star
columbia
live forever
cigarettes and alcohol
and Supersonic.

I like it so far, i guess i expected the old poppy Oasis from whats the sory? morning glory, but in a way i'm glad is different .

Starfucker

I never got into Oasis, because they try to sound like their more successful British counterparts. All they sound like to me is a Beatles/Stones tribute band. If I want to hear a group that sounds like those 2 bands I'll listen to the real deal.

gimmesometruth27

the haters can hate all they want but simply put, this album is fuckin ace.

AxlUlrich

El Riot Actor wrote:

I just got the new Oasis.... i just heard it once, i'm more into the 2nd half of the cd. My version came with 5 live songs from 1994 icluding:
rock n roll star
columbia
live forever
cigarettes and alcohol
and Supersonic.

I like it so far, i guess i expected the old poppy Oasis from whats the sory? morning glory, but in a way i'm glad is different .

cool!
thats a bestbuy exclusive i heard...how are the live tracks?

Swallow Poison

Starfucker wrote:

I never got into Oasis, because they try to sound like their more successful British counterparts. All they sound like to me is a Beatles/Stones tribute band. If I want to hear a group that sounds like those 2 bands I'll listen to the real deal.

They have been albatrossed with this tag for a while now.

It was Noel and Liam who made the early comparisons, saying they wanted to be bigger than The Beatles etc and the press seemed to use this as a statement about their musical intentions.

I can think of a couple of examples where they actually seem to have ripped off The Beatles:

- the coda to She's Electric - it's the coda to A Little Help From My Friends (not the best song to choose to rip off if you ask me)
- Cigarettes In Hell - the mellotron is reminiscent of Strawberry Fields

Other than that though, I don't really see the comparison. There may be a general comparison to make, but no more than that.

I've always thought because of their swagger, they were much more akin to The Stones than The Beatles. The latter were never as rough around the edges as Oasis.

However, other than one line in the verse of Lyla, they have never directly ripped off The Stones either to my knowledge.

Furthermore, Oasis are to be commended in my book for their deference and reverance to The Beatles and The Stones which has resulted in 2 excellent covers - I Am The Walrus and Street Fighting Man - both are fresh and interesting versions.

I see your point about preferring to listen to the originals rather than the imitators but feel this is doing Oasis a disservice. They have contributed some amazing and original songs such as Live Forever, Acquiesce, Rockin Chair, to name but a few.

I would agree if you said why listen to Jet - just listen to AC/DC but that is because Jet don't seem to add anything new at all to what AC/DC have done.

Oasis on the other hand have added something new to their influences. The overall sound of Oasis in particular, especially on their first album, was definitely fresh and new at the time.

One might even venture, playing devil's advocate, why listen to The Stones? Just listen to the black r&b originals that never got the credit they deserved and that The Stones stood on the shoulders of to develop their own sound.

Everyone is influenced by someone. Music is an evolutionary process. It's ok to be inspired by someone, but try and add something new to the mix.

In my humble opinion, Oasis have...